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amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Sydin posted:

Book 5:
:geno: "Ginny I can't take you with us, it's too dangerous."
:raise: "gently caress off nerd, I'm better at hexes then you are. I'm gonna kick some Death Eater rear end."

Book 6:
:geno: "Ginny I can't take you with us, it's too dangerous."
:swoon: "I understand Harry, I'll wait for you forever. Be safe."

Also in Book 5:

:geno: "Ughhhhh, none of you can understand what it feels like to be possessed by Voldemort!"
:raise: "I did, you loving dumbass!"

There's the groundwork there of Harry befriending and bonding with Ginny over their shared experiences of being under Voldemort's influence, but no, Harry goes back to ignoring her until his monster rears its head.

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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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I'd bet money that "hey, I was possessed by voldemort" was an editorial note because it goes nowhere

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
I used to make jokes about Ginny being basically Amy Rose but Amy has much more character depth and recognised formidability

Shwoo
Jul 21, 2011

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Lol did you ever watch American Horror Story? Queenie is the black kid in the season about teenagers at witch school. I don't remember if it was good or not but I suspect bare minimum, better than these movies.
Nope, don't even know enough about it to name any of the characters. The only other Queenie I can think of is a cartoon cat. I guess I just assumed the cast was more diverse than it is.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

YaketySass posted:

Don't forget the most important part - their relationship is a way for him to officially become part of her family, the one thing he really wanted all along.

Is there any doubt that he would have married Ron if he was a girl?

I forgot that that was pretty much the main point of Harry marrying Ginny. What a hell of a relationship. :laffo:

Considering how Harry treats Ron better than Hermione or Ginny, that would've been way better than what we got.

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
I've said it before: they're getting divorced just like Ron and Hermione except it won't be because of jealousy and friction under the boss. It'll be because of his unresolved PTSD, drinking to deal with the former, government agent/cop attitude and inability to express emotions other than rage.

He'll get weekend custody, which will be awkward in his creepy, dour manor in London. They still haven't removed Mrs. Black's painting from the walls.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I used to make jokes about Ginny being basically Amy Rose but Amy has much more character depth and recognised formidability

If anything she's like Videl from DBZ. A spunky tomboyish love interest who likes all the same things the male lead likes so he doesn't have to come out of his comfort zone much, and is originally introduced as a capable fighter in their own right. But then as soon as they actually enter a relationship and the plot gets serious they're suddenly relegated to the sideline and lose all personality besides cheerleading for the male lead.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist


loving christ.

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
that tracks considering fans constantly have to put in their own head-canon to make things she writes make the least bit of sense. Not even in a suspension of disbelief type of way, either.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
lmao at holding a grudge against the guy tapped to replace the abuser who you went to the mat for, as if it's his fault. Jo is such a loving petty rear end in a top hat.

Then again having to interact with Rowling would be a huge step down from smoking weed with Kojima so maybe Mads is better off.

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
yeah, it's clear Depp was her choice for the role and thus the favorite son

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
She originally wanted him to be Sirius, and he designed the look for Grindelwald himself. Lol that her favourite fellow celebrities are that guy and Marilyn Manson.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!

Oven Wrangler
Bleach blond hair and two different colored eyes is exactly what I would expect from someone who chooses to dress like a bohemian pirate irl

e: I thought Rowling was the one who insisted on only casting UK actors in the first set of movies so to hear he was her pick for Sirius is extra funny

ONE YEAR LATER fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Apr 15, 2022

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

She originally wanted him to be Sirius

[citation needed] I can’t find anything to that effect after a quick search.

nashona
May 8, 2014

Though she be but little, she is fierce


Edgar Allen Ho posted:

She originally wanted him to be Sirius, and he designed the look for Grindelwald himself. Lol that her favourite fellow celebrities are that guy and Marilyn Manson.

that figures she would stan a rapist

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
jkr is batshit. who wouldn't want to meet Mikkelsen? he's delightful

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Cranappleberry posted:

I've said it before: they're getting divorced just like Ron and Hermione except it won't be because of jealousy and friction under the boss. It'll be because of his unresolved PTSD, drinking to deal with the former, government agent/cop attitude and inability to express emotions other than rage.

He'll get weekend custody, which will be awkward in his creepy, dour manor in London. They still haven't removed Mrs. Black's painting from the walls.

She actually kind of threatens divorce in Cursed Child after Harry keeps loving up with Albus in the same stupid way. It's the one cool thing she does in that story, where she's, of course, reduced to ultramom despite having been a badass professional quidditch player.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Harry doesn’t work on friendships and relationships and instead just kind of hopes things will work out on their own.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005

Being recently unemployed and tired of waiting around to hear back from the places I've put in applications I actually went to see this.

It's hard to describe how little actually happens in the movie. People go places and then just leave without really accomplishing anything.

Highlights:
Mads makes it easier to understand why people would follow him since he isn't a gross looking weirdo
the new Fantastic Beast is very cute
there's a cute little bit where the niffler steals stuff from a guard, including his gold tooth
Dumbledore and Grindelwald do have some sexual tension in the two scenes where they directly confront each other
Newt having to move weird to stop some crab monsters from attacking was funny

Lowlights:
the scene with Newt moving weird had some nasty tonal whiplash as while he and Theseus are goofing around a monster is killing and eating prisoners
the new Fantastic Beast choosing Dumbledore as pure of heart is crap seeing as he spends the entire movie manufacturing events in order to force Grindelwald to try and kill Creedence
everything involving the magic election is garbage because you never learn anything about any part of it or even the candidates outside of their names
Tina being written out is done very poorly
again, nothing really happens in the movie. It feels like the first half of a film stretched out to 2 1/2 hours.

Hey, remember how in the last movie they introduced Nagini as a human woman? Guess who isn't in this film at all.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005

Also despite the whole one thing we knew about Grindelwald before this series was that he was obsessed with the Deathly Hallows there's still no mention of them at all. The only thing is the symbol showing up in his political logo thing.

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
Sick of having to snake all these motherf*cking drains

muscles like this! posted:

Also despite the whole one thing we knew about Grindelwald before this series was that he was obsessed with the Deathly Hallows there's still no mention of them at all. The only thing is the symbol showing up in his political logo thing.

At this point, Grindelwald should have the wand. This may get retconned and it wouldn't surprise me.

The invisibility cloak is with the Potter clan still and neither Dumbledore nor Grindelwald know about it. The resurrection stone is with the Guants, who may have a kid at Hoggy Warty Hogwarts and/or have someone in the ministry. Neither Dumbledore nor Grindelwaif know about this, either.

Maybe they will show the ring or mention the cloak surreptitiously but, uh, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


everyone say hi to democracy deer, the deer that only chooses good people to lead governments

*democracy deer chooses dumbledore*

we regret to inform you...

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005

Cranappleberry posted:

Sick of having to snake all these motherf*cking drains

At this point, Grindelwald should have the wand. This may get retconned and it wouldn't surprise me.

The invisibility cloak is with the Potter clan still and neither Dumbledore nor Grindelwald know about it. The resurrection stone is with the Guants, who may have a kid at Hoggy Warty Hogwarts and/or have someone in the ministry. Neither Dumbledore nor Grindelwaif know about this, either.

Maybe they will show the ring or mention the cloak surreptitiously but, uh, I wouldn't hold my breath.

He has the Elder Wand but again nobody ever talks about it. It's just the wand he uses.

Jakob/Queenie wedding is weird because everybody gets super dressed up and then they just have it at his bakery. Also for how abbreviated the subplot is because it mostly consists of Queenie ignoring Jakob whenever they see each other until the very end where he wins her back with a quick speech about how he loves her.

The other absolutely bizarre part of the wedding is Dumbledore talking about it like it is literally the first time Muggles and Wizards have married which is bonkers.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

We do never see a lot of together wizard/muggle couples on screen. Apparently Cho marries one but it’s weirdly said like a consolation prize

Babe Magnet
Jun 1, 2008

willickers

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

Well the first movie established that in America in the 20’s it was downright illegal for muggles and wizards to marry as I recall, which isn’t a stretch considering, you know, America. But to my knowledge that should be a regional issue and not something British wizards should care about.


Actually, yes, I remember now how Newt says something to Tina to the effect of “you silly yanks and your laws, catch up already” regarding…something.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

BigglesSWE posted:

Well the first movie established that in America in the 20’s it was downright illegal for muggles and wizards to marry as I recall, which isn’t a stretch considering, you know, America. But to my knowledge that should be a regional issue and not something British wizards should care about.


Actually, yes, I remember now how Newt says something to Tina to the effect of “you silly yanks and your laws, catch up already” regarding…something.

Which is still super bizarre because according to JK's canon their wizard school was literally founded in part by a muggle who married the European witch who brought ~civilized~ magic to the Americas. Despite being a self-taught abused shut in who was denied from formally learning magic.

You see she was descended from Salazar Slytherin so she was just better than the natives.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

Zore posted:

Which is still super bizarre because according to JK's canon their wizard school was literally founded in part by a muggle who married the European witch who brought ~civilized~ magic to the Americas. Despite being a self-taught abused shut in who was denied from formally learning magic.

You see she was descended from Salazar Slytherin so she was just better than the natives.

If these movies were based on books, one could make the argument that these adaptations did away with such nonsense and is therefore not canon. But they’re not so I guess this is canon to the Harry Potter universe.

I kind of wonder if JK herself forgot that there were books that preceded the movies.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

BigglesSWE posted:

If these movies were based on books, one could make the argument that these adaptations did away with such nonsense and is therefore not canon. But they’re not so I guess this is canon to the Harry Potter universe.

I kind of wonder if JK herself forgot that there were books that preceded the movies.

Oh that stuff isn't in the novels its in the insane articles she posted up on Pottermore to flesh out the world. Its where most of her more blatant racism gets shown off

https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/ilvermorny

I believe it was written explicitly to hype up the first film in the Fantastic Beasts saga too lmao

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

Well I mean the HP movies can always technically wave away any such horseshit lore because they are ultimately adaptations. Like, canonically, the books takes place from, I believe, 1991 onwards. The movies clearly shrugged and went with the practical “it takes place whenever we make the movie”, meaning you get to see the collapse of the Millennium Bridge in movie 6.

Unless JK wants to open that can of crazy and insist that the movies are canon just as much as the books, they’re not. Meaning they exist in their own little world, where, if they choose to, they can ignore all the filler details about wizards making GBS threads in the corridors of the school as stuff not being part of their world.

These FB movies, though, can’t do that quite as easily though because 1: there’s no books to adapt from and 2: JK is clearly more involved so it has that schizophrenic feel of trying to be the world as described in the books while also visually being part of the world as established by the films.

I’m clearly putting too much thought into this tbh. “Movie give money” is the thesis of it all in the end.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


Zore posted:

Oh that stuff isn't in the novels its in the insane articles she posted up on Pottermore to flesh out the world. Its where most of her more blatant racism gets shown off

https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/ilvermorny

I believe it was written explicitly to hype up the first film in the Fantastic Beasts saga too lmao

"america got the best parts of salazar slytherin"

lol why is she always stanning for racist fascists

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

muscles like this! posted:

He has the Elder Wand but again nobody ever talks about it. It's just the wand he uses.
Also he was disarmed at the end of the first film so either Tina or Newt should be the master.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

bobjr posted:

We do never see a lot of together wizard/muggle couples on screen. Apparently Cho marries one but it’s weirdly said like a consolation prize

Cho sure got a lot of poo poo for the high crimes of A) Being emotional and broken up about her ex-boyfriend's death, B) Wanting to get closure by talking about it with the guy who last saw Cedric, and C) Standing up for her best friend who made a stupid mistake because she was a scared kid who got pressured by Umbridge, and said friend got disfigured for life by Hermione's trap contract. We all know the answer is because Rowling's a misogynist, but still.

Looking back, it's very satisfying how Harry and Cho's relationship imploded because Harry is such an unfeeling jackass who can't even spare one ounce of empathy for Cho.

Zore posted:

Oh that stuff isn't in the novels its in the insane articles she posted up on Pottermore to flesh out the world. Its where most of her more blatant racism gets shown off

https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/ilvermorny

I believe it was written explicitly to hype up the first film in the Fantastic Beasts saga too lmao

Tried reading this but couldn't finish because I was cringing so hard at the racism. loving :lol: at "An unusual friendship arose between Isolt and the non-magical creature." The Puk-whatever sure as hell didn't see her as a friend; It clearly stated they're only begrudgingly helping her out because she saved him and he owed her one.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Don't forget Cho is also supposed to be pretty and foreign, two more major strikes. Harry very obviously treats her as an overdue prize.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


amigolupus posted:

Tried reading this but couldn't finish because I was cringing so hard at the racism. loving :lol: at "An unusual friendship arose between Isolt and the non-magical creature." The Puk-whatever sure as hell didn't see her as a friend; It clearly stated they're only begrudgingly helping her out because she saved him and he owed her one.

so uhhh the pukwudgie

the american magic school named one of their four houses after them and the crest looks like this



e: and this creature was appropriated from first nations' beliefs, of course

Mx. fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Apr 16, 2022

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
I am still loving appalled that J/K actually wrote down that wizards would poo poo themselves and then magic away the poo poo before getting indoor plumbing. Just loving what, that's so disgusting and stupid. Which fits I guess but :cry:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
It's just so perfectly stupid. Especially since it's already established that wizards did use chamber pots.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sausage.

Smellrose
Harry Potter died on the toilet.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Mx. posted:

"america got the best parts of salazar slytherin"

lol why is she always stanning for racist fascists

Look, the likes of Dumbledore and Harry Potter are also huge pieces of poo poo. Us muggles get two options for overlords. I'll say it, I support the hot topic guys who have a cool skull logo and do banger dances for their dark lord. Did anyone ever dance for Albus Dumbledore? No!

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

I am a proud member of the Who Dat Nation and I have Silly Burrito to thank for it. I also buy my king cakes at Wal-Mart
Thats why I vote Lockhart

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