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Piell posted:So why'd she make everything else in her books dumb? Because she is very dumb and a bigot
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its yet another HP thing which is a good satire until people started taking it way too seriously, most of all JK herself
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Apr 25, 2022 21:12
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Feldegast42 posted:its yet another HP thing which is a good satire until people started taking it way too seriously, most of all JK herself Like with the abusive foster family it was something that made more sense early on when the series was more whimsical.
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Apr 25, 2022 21:30
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yeah i tried to rewatch the movies a few years ago (i dont know why) and i couldn't get very far because the whole time it's like. everybody knows he's being abused and they literally don't give a poo poo?? word
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Apr 25, 2022 23:19
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Yeah, one of his best friend's parents are medical professionals, and thus mandatory reporters too. Suppose she never mentioned anything to them in several years of knowing this that might make them concerned, like him literally having to be broken out of his house, or introduced them to the obviously underfed kid in ratty oversized clothes at the train station. Leaving aside stuff like why his primary school teachers didn't catch on. Given wizarding morals, they probably did, repeatedly, and got mindwiped since the guy who insists he has to stay in an abusive situation has a high position in the government.
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Apr 26, 2022 01:04
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amigolupus posted:The introduction of Obscuriosis or whatever the hell Ezra Miller had at FB retroactively makes him even stupider. Dumbledore knew firsthand what happened to abused wizard kids like his sister and nephew, and he just stood by and let Harry go back to his abusive relatives each year. Like Endgame, the ideal scenario.
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Apr 26, 2022 03:46
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The dumbest thing about Quidditch is that the game only ends once the snitch is caught. Which is a fun little detail in a children’s adventure book but when brought into a big serious pondering world it falls apart completely.
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Apr 26, 2022 09:33
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BigglesSWE posted:The dumbest thing about Quidditch is that the game only ends once the snitch is caught. Which is a fun little detail in a children’s adventure book but when brought into a big serious pondering world it falls apart completely. Are you thinking about how theoretically no one could catch the snitch and the game could last forever? Because that could also theoretically happen in baseball if it remains a tie.
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Apr 26, 2022 09:40
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Skwirl posted:Are you thinking about how theoretically no one could catch the snitch and the game could last forever? Because that could also theoretically happen in baseball if it remains a tie. Sounds like baseball is pretty stupid then. I wouldn’t know, I’ve only been to one game back in 2002 and I had no idea what was happening.
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Apr 26, 2022 09:44
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BigglesSWE posted:Sounds like baseball is pretty stupid then. I wouldn’t know, I’ve only been to one game back in 2002 and I had no idea what was happening. People have been playing baseball for like 150 years and there's never been a game that just went on forever, so it's a small worry.
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Apr 26, 2022 09:52
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Pretty sure it's literally based on cricket, not baseball.
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Apr 26, 2022 10:38
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Pretty sure it's literally based on cricket, not baseball. I'm sure it is, I'm just saying a potentially infinite game is a thing that can happen in real life sports too. I don't know enough about cricket to know what happens in the event of an endless tie.
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Apr 26, 2022 10:43
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I seem to recall a line in one of the books referring to a game that lasted days/weeks and that somehow didn’t lead to a reform. Which, you know, is a fun thing in a universe with the tone of, say, Discworld or HHGG, but the way HP evolved with all the emphasis of real world problems of politics, it strikes me as odd.
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Apr 26, 2022 10:50
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Quidditch is what happens when a sportsball type writes in a sport and then ends up having to take it seriously. Again, you're putting in more thought than she ever did.
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Apr 26, 2022 10:58
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Cricket used to have some matches with no time limit but there were still score-based limits (for both teams). Tennis can still have matches that go on forever, though some tournaments have eliminated the possibility. E: I don't think Rowling ever really took it seriously in the books, even in the later ones.
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Apr 26, 2022 10:59
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She did effectively write it out of the series between getting canceled due to giant snake, murder tournament, Rowling's unintentional self-insert toad, and then living in a tent. As usual because she did not in any way plan ahead so was stuck with it being an annual thing in the world. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Apr 26, 2022 |
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Apr 26, 2022 11:16
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Even in the last book where Quidditch mattered (and Harry got forced off the team and Ron was the main character for it instead) it all happened offscreen.
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Apr 26, 2022 11:48
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Tennis can still have matches that go on forever, though some tournaments have eliminated the possibility. Watching this match live was an experience. strangely mesmerising, even as someone who barely ever watches tennis not sure if an eternal match of two seekers failing to catch a ball would be equally hypnotic though
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Apr 26, 2022 14:39
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Even in the last book where Quidditch mattered (and Harry got forced off the team and Ron was the main character for it instead) it all happened offscreen. My favorite is in Goblet when a whole early arc of the book is Harry and friends going to the Quidditch World Cup - the biggest and most important match in the world - but Rowling didn't actually want to write a bunch about the actual blow by blow of the game so one side just ruthlessly bodies the other for like ten minutes before Krum decides his own team is a lost cause and catches the snitch to end the game knowing his team was down by more than 150 points. The audience response to this is overwhelmingly positive and everybody talks about how noble and talented Krum is for doing this. I can only assume that Rowling herself has never been to a single meaningful sporting event in her life, because I can say with reasonable authority that if - as an example - a team went down 0-21 in the first quarter of the Super Bowl and their QB decided "welp game's over we're clearly the inferior team" and just took a knee over and over until the clock ran out, he'd be torn to shreds by the fans mobbing the field baying for his blood.
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Apr 26, 2022 18:00
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Sydin posted:My favorite is in Goblet when a whole early arc of the book is Harry and friends going to the Quidditch World Cup - the biggest and most important match in the world - but Rowling didn't actually want to write a bunch about the actual blow by blow of the game so one side just ruthlessly bodies the other for like ten minutes before Krum decides his own team is a lost cause and catches the snitch to end the game knowing his team was down by more than 150 points. The audience response to this is overwhelmingly positive and everybody talks about how noble and talented Krum is for doing this. While true, it sounds utterly hilarious and here’s hopin’.
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Apr 26, 2022 18:08
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You don’t want to know what all those Veela did after the game.
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Apr 26, 2022 18:33
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Ugh. Veela. Reminds me of one of Rowling's other creepy points. Mind control: capital crime Veela using lust magic on an all-ages audience at an international sporting event: Cool! Molly Weasley getting her husband via love potion: Funny romantic anecdote.
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Liquid Communism posted:Ugh. Veela. Reminds me of one of Rowling's other creepy points. Uh, when the hell was this? Incredible if one of the few moderately functional relationships we see in the series was built off of a love potion of all things.
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Apr 26, 2022 23:42
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BigglesSWE posted:The dumbest thing about Quidditch is that the game only ends once the snitch is caught. Which is a fun little detail in a children’s adventure book but when brought into a big serious pondering world it falls apart completely. Like what happened in the loving World Cup of Quidditch in book 4? The losing team caught it when it guaranteed them a loss. For some stupid rear end reason.
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Zore posted:Uh, when the hell was this? Incredible if one of the few moderately functional relationships we see in the series was built off of a love potion of all things. Yeah gonna need, as the kiddies(?) say these days, some sauce on this
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Prison of Azkaban, Chapter 5quote:They headed down to breakfast, where Mr. Weasley was reading the front page of the Daily Prophet with a furrowed brow and Mrs. Weasley was telling Hermione and Ginny about a love potion she’d made as a young girl. All three of them were rather giggly.
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Zesty posted:Like what happened in the loving World Cup of Quidditch in book 4? The losing team caught it when it guaranteed them a loss. For some stupid rear end reason. Because the losing team's star player decided it would be better to just give up and hand the win to the other team rather than try to mount any kind of a comeback. It's the wizarding equivalent of playing a MOBA and spamming the Surrender key after your team loses a single team fight in the early game.
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It makes a lot of sense when you realise implicitly the Seeker is the Main Character of the team.
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Apr 27, 2022 02:14
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Yeah, but Michael Jordan was the main character when he played for the Bulls and can you loving imagine him giving up because the other team seemed to have an insurmountable lead?
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Piell posted:Prison of Azkaban, Chapter 5 The twins were selling them out of their shop later on too, now that I do a bit of googling. Which is again, some side-eye at Rowling, having your good guys casually selling essentially magical roofies. quote:“There you go,” said Fred proudly. “Best range of love potions you’ll find anywhere.” Half Blood Prince, Chapter 6
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We even get it shown how even when done wrong they'll mess you up when Ron gets one by accident. Though if more focused was put on it likely it would have been a big joke on Ron.
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Liquid Communism posted:The twins were selling them out of their shop later on too, now that I do a bit of googling. Which is again, some side-eye at Rowling, having your good guys casually selling essentially magical roofies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoA63WunEJ0
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I'm assuming across the pond in Down 3-1 in the finals series of matches to the winningest team of all time better just give up! Barudak fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Apr 27, 2022 |
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Apr 27, 2022 02:45
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Liquid Communism posted:The twins were selling them out of their shop later on too, now that I do a bit of googling. Which is again, some side-eye at Rowling, having your good guys casually selling essentially magical roofies. Same book by the way where we find out that Riddle's mom used love potions to forcefully marry, rape, and have the child of a hostage muggle. So you can't even make the argument that "haha love potions" was a thing Rowling threw in as standard wizard fare in the early goings without much thought and later tried to rectify.
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You want another sketchy thought, remember Lockheart, the guy whose usual pastime is mindwiping people, recommending 12 year olds get Snape to teach them how to make them at Valentines.
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Apr 27, 2022 05:32
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I don't have kids , and if I did and they wanted to read Harry Potter I'd probably let them because otherwise it's forbidden fruit and they'll want to read it even more and it would probably be in their school library, but I'd definitely try and get them to read some other stuff at least in addition to Harry Potter. Do 12 year olds in 2022 give a poo poo about Harry Potter though? I feel like there should be new YA novels they're obsessed over. Like modern 12 year olds know about Harry Potter for the same reason I know about The Beatles, my/their parents were obsessed with it, right?
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Apr 27, 2022 05:41
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One of my nieces loves Harry Potter I buy her other books for gifts
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Apr 27, 2022 05:58
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Kids don't actually care what's new, Zoomers are into everything new and old. They pirate and emulate games older than they are, they read whatever the gently caress they want, they have the entire history of culture and entertainment at their fingertips. It's also not like they can escape the weight of franchise juggernauts anyway.
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Mx. posted:One of my nieces loves Harry Potter I'd recommend the Patricia Wrede dragons books. This is the first https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dealing_with_Dragons
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Thanks! I always appreciate book suggestions
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