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SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Like a 50 foot tall Jude Law rampaging around in Fantastic Beasts?

Or is that the penultimate boss in Hogwarts Legacy before he evolves into One Winged Dumbledore.

"Bigger Luke" is an actual thing in Star Wars fanon because Mark Hamill looked taller in one shot compared to another.

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Asterite34
May 19, 2009



About 80% of what I post is just insane made-up worldbuilding jokes. I won't tell you which 80%

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

SirPhoebos posted:

"Bigger Luke" is an actual thing in Star Wars fanon because Mark Hamill looked taller in one shot compared to another.

LOL, of course that would be a thing. It probably has something to do with midichlorians.

Asterite34 posted:

About 80% of what I post is just insane made-up worldbuilding jokes. I won't tell you which 80%

That's what I'm talking about. Thank you for your service. :patriot:

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
its all real, its all happening. LIVE

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

The main thing you should know is that Draco Malfoy loves his son and he most definitely absolutely 100% wasn’t cucked by the Dark Lord

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

Yeehaw. I'm a cowboy

SirPhoebos posted:

"Bigger Luke" is an actual thing in Star Wars fanon because Mark Hamill looked taller in one shot compared to another.

Wait.

I thought it was a joke about that one line Leia had about him looking shirt for a stormtrooper.

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Samovar posted:

Wait.

I thought it was a joke about that one line Leia had about him looking shirt for a stormtrooper.

My friend:

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

The true question is, what is worth posting for?

amigolupus posted:

Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't the reveal not just that she's a woman, but that she's specifically an Indonesian woman? Because her being forced to become a pet for a British man feels kinda... insensitive.

it being hosed up is fine, but it's an absolutely wild thing to recontextualise the story with when nagini's purpose in the books is 'we killed the better big evil snake because there wasn't a way to resolve that plotline otherwise so now we need a second big evil snake'. we didn't need to know where the second big evil snake came from. the bad guy can just have a second big evil snake.

harry potter's approach to race is kind of decent if you squint (every character in the series has a terrible name, there's no reason to pick on cho chang in particular), so having the evil british wizard-racist enslave and generally be weird about a SEA woman-snake fits, but it ends up feeding into the series' completely tepid approach to resolving any of these ideas (the cool guy cuts off her head with a magic sword! everything is fine now!), as well as the bizarre fixation on retroactively making the series more diverse with no interest in interrogating that.

rowling insisting that hermione can be interpreted as black is by far the funniest of this - you really want the character held up as an anti-slavery strawman to be black?? - but i also have a bone to pick with the fandom for insisting that the minor indian characters must have a lot to say about indian magical culture, as opposed to being british kids like everyone else, who happen to be indian. parvati and her friends are all normal british girls. that's the point. the wizarding world is the ideal liberal multicultural society under attack by inexplicable fascists.

ungulateman fucked around with this message at 04:56 on May 6, 2023

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Samovar posted:

Wait.

I thought it was a joke about that one line Leia had about him looking shirt for a stormtrooper.

http://biggerluke.wikidot.com/bigger-luke

Wolfechu
May 2, 2009

All the world's a stage I'm going through


JethroMcB posted:

My friend:



There's an entire wiki about this theory: http://biggerluke.wikidot.com/bigger-luke

which, hopefully, is a fairly obvious if rather large parody of the sorts of conspiracy theories fandoms come up with.

E: Ffff, beaten so hard

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Somehow, Dumbledore returned.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

bobjr posted:

Somehow, Dumbledore returned.

But unlike Palpatine, he never scored.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

DEFEND THE ONLY JEWISH STATE

ungulateman posted:

it being hosed up is fine, but it's an absolutely wild thing to recontextualise the story with when nagini's purpose in the books is 'we killed the better big evil snake because there wasn't a way to resolve that plotline otherwise so now we need a second big evil snake'. we didn't need to know where the second big evil snake came from. the bad guy can just have a second big evil snake.

harry potter's approach to race is kind of decent if you squint (every character in the series has a terrible name, there's no reason to pick on cho chang in particular), so having the evil british wizard-racist enslave and generally be weird about a SEA woman-snake fits, but it ends up feeding into the series' completely tepid approach to resolving any of these ideas (the cool guy cuts off her head with a magic sword! everything is fine now!), as well as the bizarre fixation on retroactively making the series more diverse with no interest in interrogating that.

rowling insisting that hermione can be interpreted as black is by far the funniest of this - you really want the character held up as an anti-slavery strawman to be black?? - but i also have a bone to pick with the fandom for insisting that the minor indian characters must have a lot to say about indian magical culture, as opposed to being british kids like everyone else, who happen to be indian. parvati and her friends are all normal british girls. that's the point. the wizarding world is the ideal liberal multicultural society under attack by inexplicable fascists.

You do need to pick on cho chang, actually, cause her name is 1) entirely based on her race 2) just a few letters swapped from a racist jingle and that is definitely how Rowling thought of it

If Seamus Finnegan was instead called Finnegan O'Potatoes, people would criticise that more than the other terrible names too

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog
Black Hermione aside all of the main and even secondary characters are white. Cho's the only one who comes close to having a relevant thing to do in the narrative (very brief love interest), everyone else's an extra.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

YaketySass posted:

Black Hermione aside all of the main and even secondary characters are white. Cho's the only one who comes close to having a relevant thing to do in the narrative (very brief love interest), everyone else's an extra.
All black cast or go back to England, Joanne. Also make Hermione the only white girl and keep her "only one against slavery" bit, i dare you.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

she named her most prominent black character 'shacklebolt' lol

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

DEFEND THE ONLY JEWISH STATE
KINGsley shacklebolt

hi harry, I'm famous black wizard Martin Slavery

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


hey now she also has indian sisters named patil who do essentially nothing in the story

and uhhhhh

thats it

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
Good thing she never included a Jewish student, they'd probably have "gold" in their name or something.

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Good thing she never included a Jewish student, they'd probably have "gold" in their name or something.

I dunno if :thejoke: but....


https://twitter.com/isaiah_bb/status/1477700531812454411

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
There are three wizarding jews now. One even agreed that the Holocaust was bad, but luckily Dumbledore set her straight

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

:ohno:

Of... of course there is.

I would make a joke about the one from Fantastic Beasts being called "Menorah Zionprotocols" but now I'm terrified that might actually be it.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

There are three wizarding jews now. One even agreed that the Holocaust was bad, but luckily Dumbledore set her straight
Pretty fantastic being a Jewish wizard, knowing the wizard world knew that the holocaust was coming but decided to do nothing about it.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

DEFEND THE ONLY JEWISH STATE

Wingnut Ninja posted:

:ohno:

Of... of course there is.

I would make a joke about the one from Fantastic Beasts being called "Menorah Zionprotocols" but now I'm terrified that might actually be it.

no she's also called goldstein

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

(no relation)

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


Wingnut Ninja posted:

:ohno:

Of... of course there is.

I would make a joke about the one from Fantastic Beasts being called "Menorah Zionprotocols" but now I'm terrified that might actually be it.

lol i thought you were doing a bit, that's hilarious that this is how you found that out

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
Vernon Dursley has a man crush on Kingsly, you heard it here first

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Wingnut Ninja posted:

:ohno:

Of... of course there is.

I would make a joke about the one from Fantastic Beasts being called "Menorah Zionprotocols" but now I'm terrified that might actually be it.

Wait till you hear about the villain in Hogwarts Legacy.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Mx. posted:

lol i thought you were doing a bit, that's hilarious that this is how you found that out

I was just trying to think "what would be the Jewish equivalent of calling the black guy 'Shacklebolt' "

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

josh04 posted:

(no relation)

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/632611629843263488?s=20

Hecuba
Jul 20, 2005

What we do is invent our images. And we build them.
I reread the series a couple of years ago (wanted some pandemic comfort food, give me a break) and actually burst out laughing at this bit. The Death Eaters are running around hunting anyone of insufficiently pure blood, when who should the trio encounter but the one Black Gryffindor student:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Hecuba posted:

I reread the series a couple of years ago (wanted some pandemic comfort food, give me a break) and actually burst out laughing at this bit. The Death Eaters are running around hunting anyone of insufficiently pure blood, when who should the trio encounter but the one Black Gryffindor student:



lol Yeah, I remember bringing up that part about Dean too.

She really can't help but use as much racist tropes as possible.

Shwoo
Jul 21, 2011

No, you see, according to supplemental material that's not in the books, Dean's dad didn't leave, he was a wizard who "got himself killed by Death Eaters", so actually it's Not Racist. :thumbsup:

And then nobody ever bothered to tell Dean about this through his entire adolescence. At least they told Harry what really happened to his parents as soon as they got around to letting him know about his superpowers.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

So does that mean his dad never told his mom that he was a wizard at any time in their relationship?

Granted that's probably not an easy thing to announce, even considering most wizards treat muggles like a zoo animals.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Is that better or worse than Seamus' mom only telling her husband she was a witch after they got married?

Granted, this was mentioned in book 1 which was still supposed to be whimsical. Just yet another thing that aged poorly as the series went more grim and mature lol.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


bobjr posted:

So does that mean his dad never told his mom that he was a wizard at any time in their relationship?

Granted that's probably not an easy thing to announce, even considering most wizards treat muggles like a zoo animals.

it is illegal to tell your partner you are a wizard until you marry them

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa
You have like three sorts of tiers or categories of hosed up poo poo in Harry Potter, IMO.
Tier One: poo poo that was never acceptable even in the 90s and it's loving insane how people overlook/ed it. Goblins being a prime example, or "being born of rape makes you incapable of feeling love" and all the other general racism.
Tier Two: Stuff that was innocuous or maybe a bit sketch at first glance, but which has taken on a vastly more sinister tone since Rowling has gone mask off. Rita Skeeter's mannishness comes to mind.
Tier Three: Stuff that was fine or 'fine' in a whimsical Dahl-esque romp, but becomes something else when you turn the book into a ~serious~ political thriller, as she did. The Dursleys treatment of Harry comes to mind.

Shwoo
Jul 21, 2011

I think Dumbledore should've stayed as the genteel eye-twinkling headmaster through the entire series. That wouldn't have even changed much about his actions, because his decision-making is questionable even when he's in shrewd spymaster mode.

bobjr posted:

So does that mean his dad never told his mom that he was a wizard at any time in their relationship?

Granted that's probably not an easy thing to announce, even considering most wizards treat muggles like a zoo animals.
Yes, he never told his family because he wanted to protect them. I don't know if Rowling ever elaborated on what that meant.

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

Tier Three: Stuff that was fine or 'fine' in a whimsical Dahl-esque romp, but becomes something else when you turn the book into a ~serious~ political thriller, as she did. The Dursleys treatment of Harry comes to mind.
IIRC Neville’s first accidental magic happened when his uncle was dangling him out of a high window trying to scare him into triggering it and then accidentally let go (he bounced). That was the last in a long line of incidents of them trying to scare him into doing magic, because they were worried he might be a squib who was incapable of doing any magic at all. So… if he had been a squib they’d have spent his entire childhood torturing him followed by killing him. The Longbottoms are one of the designated Good Guy wizarding families, and this is never treated as anything more than an amusing family anecdote.

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RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

pumpinglemma posted:

IIRC Neville’s first accidental magic happened when his uncle was dangling him out of a high window trying to scare him into triggering it and then accidentally let go (he bounced). That was the last in a long line of incidents of them trying to scare him into doing magic, because they were worried he might be a squib who was incapable of doing any magic at all. So… if he had been a squib they’d have spent his entire childhood torturing him followed by killing him. The Longbottoms are one of the designated Good Guy wizarding families, and this is never treated as anything more than an amusing family anecdote.

Yep! Lots of poo poo like that.
I mean look, if he was a squib then he'd be dead, and the only good untermensch is a dead untermensch.

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