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RoboChrist 9000 posted:
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Grundulum posted:This doesn’t track for me. I’ve seen the movies a lot more recently than I’ve read the books, and Rickman’s Snape does wrestle with his past acts during the Pensieve scenes of 7-2. Admittedly, his redemption arc happens after he’s dead; is that what you’re referring to? That's the thing. Rickman's Snape is based on his impression before the last book, when Rowling decided to reveal that the guy was just a bastard flavored bastard to the core, just another halfblood like Voldie who couldn't rise above a lovely broken home unlike Harry 'Wizard Jesus' Potter. A total wet fart of any character development between the start of the series and the end. I suspect how the last book turned out was not what he was sold on. Hell, they started filming the 6th movie like a month after the last book came out. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 02:54 on May 14, 2025 |
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Serperoth posted:or imply sexual violence as punishment? wait, what?
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Szarrukin posted:wait, what? I think they mean Umbridge and the Centaurs there
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Szarrukin posted:wait, what? Wolfechu posted:I think they mean Umbridge and the Centaurs there Yeah the house elves are the magical slaves, and the centaurs are the other part, both as examples of stuff that could be interesting or novel but is just trite
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Liquid Communism posted:That's the thing. Rickman's Snape is based on his impression before the last book, when Rowling decided to reveal that the guy was just a bastard flavored bastard to the core, just another halfblood like Voldie who couldn't rise above a lovely broken home unlike Harry 'Wizard Jesus' Potter. A total wet fart of any character development between the start of the series and the end. This is actually explicitly incorrect. It's a pretty famous bit of Potter movie lore that Rickman alone knew about Snape's "true character" long, long before anybody else did, from way back when the movies first started and only the first three books were published: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flCtOMG7Muk&t=1066s Rowling has spoken about this too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BdVHWz1DPU&t=1041s She has pretty consistently said she had Snape's character planned from the start and I see no reason to doubt her on this based on Rickman's corroboration here. Even I suspected the Snape/Lily thing based on evidence dating all the way back to the first book. It was consistent since then that Voldemort gave Lily a chance to live. This is the most OOC thing ever for Voldemort to do so it was a big mystery of why he even gave her that chance in the first place. That's also why I believe her that she had Snape and Lily planned from the start or at least very, very early on.
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Voldemort wanted to pair up Snape and Lily in the hopes of producing the Quidditch Haderach. But she messed up the plan by going and marrying James, and we got Harry instead.
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Liquid Communism posted:That's the thing. Rickman's Snape is based on his impression before the last book, when Rowling decided to reveal that the guy was just a bastard flavored bastard to the core, just another halfblood like Voldie who couldn't rise above a lovely broken home unlike Harry 'Wizard Jesus' Potter. A total wet fart of any character development between the start of the series and the end. Snape honestly says some things in his conversations with Dumbledore and elsewhere in his flashbacks that imply he changed a good bit: he laments deaths he couldn’t prevent, he admonishes Dumbledore for playing fast and loose with Harry’s and others’ lives, he gets pissed at that one racist painting for using the word mud blood when referring to Hermione, etc. A lot of this is cloaked in drollness and sarcasm but it’s there. The most awkward exchange is when Dumbledore asks if he cares about Harry’s life then he pulls out the Doe patronus, but it’s clear by this point that his feelings about Harry are complex — we obviously get a lot of expository psychoanalysis from Dumbledore on that but I suspect one thing that’s never mentioned but is at least hinted at in the subtext is the amount of guilt he must feel. And yeah as mazerunner mentioned Snape is kind of put in a tortuous position from his point of view. He has to keep role playing as a guy who clearly still has Nazi leanings in order to remain in good graces with the not-so-ex-Nazis like the Malfoys who he probably loathes at this point. He is stuck at his old high school full of bad memories not even getting the job he really wants because he is Dumbledore’s ace in the hole. He can’t even really get new friends or hobbies because anything out of the Nazi box would draw suspicion onto him when he needs to go back under cover, and he probably doesn’t actually want to hang out at the ex-Nazi clubs or whatever in his free time. And don’t get me wrong there is some bad and clumsy writing here. I think I’ve lamented before but there are some missed opportunities in the flashback and elsewhere where it could’ve been hinted that Snape was struggling with not being able to level with Harry on certain things. Him having a memory info dump prepared for Harry hints at this but they could have showed a bit more of him actually wishing he could have just a frank conversation with the kid. Also like I said Snape feeing guilt toward Harry could be shown at all, assuming Joanne even realized that herself fully; “I feel guilty for turning this kid into an orphan so I have to pretend he sucks to shield myself” is a better explanation thank Dumbledore’s limp “Harry looks too much like his dad and Snape is emotionally stunted at 13 years old”.
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Air Skwirl posted:Like, he's played as a villain for the first fiveish books, so unless they change poo poo from the books, he's going to be the only black character and there's five years of him just making GBS threads on Harry Potter. I'd say Love Actually but he still broke Emma Thompson's heart by only getting her a Joni Mitchell CD for Christmas whilst getting that slag from the office a necklace. 
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Guy A. Person posted:Snape honestly says some things in his conversations with Dumbledore and elsewhere in his flashbacks that imply he changed a good bit: he laments deaths he couldn’t prevent, he admonishes Dumbledore for playing fast and loose with Harry’s and others’ lives, he gets pissed at that one racist painting for using the word mud blood when referring to Hermione, etc. A lot of this is cloaked in drollness and sarcasm but it’s there. All of that is true, Rowling just botched the landing and threw away all the character development, as she did with several long-running bits of buildup in the last book.
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The women all learn to be strong mothers. Even Bellatrix retroactively.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Voldemort wanted to pair up Snape and Lily in the hopes of producing the Quidditch Haderach. But she messed up the plan by going and marrying James, and we got Harry instead. I don't know whether to applaud or boo at this.
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Liquid Communism posted:All of that is true, Rowling just botched the landing and threw away all the character development, as she did with several long-running bits of buildup in the last book. Yup absolutely
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Voldemort wanted to pair up Snape and Lily in the hopes of producing the Quidditch Haderach. But she messed up the plan by going and marrying James, and we got Harry instead. The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The Sci-fi Wi-fi > Harry Potter: Quidditch Haderach
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Szarrukin posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The Sci-fi Wi-fi > Harry Potter: Quidditch Haderach
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Liquid Communism posted:All of that is true, Rowling just botched the landing and threw away all the character development, as she did with several long-running bits of buildup in the last book. What did she change? I skipped the last book but kind of know the broad strokes of what happened.
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Khanstant posted:What did she change? I skipped the last book but kind of know the broad strokes of what happened. Sidelining Ginny Sidelining anything interesting happening at Hogwarts Lupin becoming a theater kid and crappy dad Emo Tent Horcruxes being sidelined for an extra set of MacGuffins Dumbledore being perfect and good all along Lots of characters not really getting any sort of resolutions in favor of Molly getting to call Bellatrix a bitch RAB honestly not mattering at all The one semi-recurring theme of Harry making inroads with non-humans going nowhere (and then being content as a slave owner lol) I think the Always poo poo with Snape has just been warped so much in cultural memory as "romance never dies" that I feel it didn't really stick the landing- he was always an awful, hateful bastard even if he wasn't a Nazi. But I haven't read the book in so long that I can't remember how it really comes off, so I can't really say if that's an author fault or just a Tumblr forced error.
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It's so funny how the tent was worst part of the last book and the best part of the movies based on it.
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I think it's a stretch to say Book 7 made Dumbledore "good all along" when it's the book that introduces his backstory with him being boyfriends with Wizard Hitler. Up until that point, Dumbledore really had no blemish on his character. This is not to say Book 7 handled Dumbles great. I think the "perfect" criticism is probably spot-on because he turned out to be right about absolutely everything. I remember very pointedly thinking after Book 6 that Dumbledore HAS to be wrong about one of the Horcruxes. That way Hary can, say, behead the snake only for Voldemort to laugh and say '"you actually thought I'd put my soul in a snake? You fools!" It creates drama with our heroes having a plan and thinking they succeeded only to be thrown a curveball. But it turns out Dumbledore nailed it with every last Horcrux. And he was right about everything else, too. Harry was a glorified pawn in the hands of a much more able hero than himself. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 06:01 on May 20, 2025 |
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Why did Dumbledore even need Harry? Why didn't he go and destroy them himself?
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PriorMarcus posted:Why did Dumbledore even need Harry? Why didn't he go and destroy them himself? I think that was his actual plan, until he did The Big gently caress Up and put the obviously cursed ring on and gave himself a one year timer to live, and had to scramble to get everything in place for after his death. Then he did the second gently caress up and sort of, trained Harry wrong, as a joke, for a year. Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 05:49 on May 20, 2025 |
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Dumbledore assumes Voldemort left a Horcrux at the school, but doesn’t think to check the magic room that gives anyone what they need to hide it
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How many genuinely, like, smart or wise things has Dumbledore actually done? He seems to have a mediocre to poor batting average in terms of decision making, but kinda just coasts along on reputation and also looking like Gandalf so everyone thinks he knows what he's doing.
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Asterite34 posted:How many genuinely, like, smart or wise things has Dumbledore actually done? He seems to have a mediocre to poor batting average in terms of decision making, but kinda just coasts along on reputation and also looking like Gandalf so everyone thinks he knows what he's doing. Does LotR exist in the HP universe?
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sebzilla posted:Does LotR exist in the HP universe? Probably? Not sure if Wizard culture would get the reference though, I dunno how they feel about muggle portrayals of wizardry. Pretend I said Merlin, Dumbledore looks like Merlin so everyone just assumes he's a wise councilor and he just rolls with it. It's like how having crazy Einstein hair might make people assume you're smart
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Asterite34 posted:How many genuinely, like, smart or wise things has Dumbledore actually done? He seems to have a mediocre to poor batting average in terms of decision making, but kinda just coasts along on reputation and also looking like Gandalf so everyone thinks he knows what he's doing. In Chamber of Secrets, he knows Harry is listening as him and Hagrid get taken away, and drops the hint about "help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it", which is the clue Harry needs to pull Gryffindor's sword out of the Sorting Hat at the end.
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Asterite34 posted:It's like how having crazy Einstein hair might make people assume you're smart You joke, but this is probably no small part of my professional success since the pandemic.
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Dabir posted:In Chamber of Secrets, he knows Harry is listening as him and Hagrid get taken away, and drops the hint about "help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it", which is the clue Harry needs to pull Gryffindor's sword out of the Sorting Hat at the end. So about as smart as Hagrid dropping the hint of "follow the spiders" earlier in the book? aka "cryptic hint to maybe help some 12-year-old do the incredibly dangerous thing that SHOULD be my job"
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Gandalf probably has a trading card like Merlin or all the other mythical wizard figures that are apparently completely real in the HP universe
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Asterite34 posted:So about as smart as Hagrid dropping the hint of "follow the spiders" earlier in the book? aka "cryptic hint to maybe help some 12-year-old do the incredibly dangerous thing that SHOULD be my job" Actually as part of the same conversation, I think. Dumbledore says his cryptic thing, Hagrid cottons on that he must be talking to Harry and co (currently invisble), and he loudly adds his own comically blunt and straightforward clue.
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I wonder if Hagrid eventually apologized for the Spider thing, since only dumb luck saved Harry and Ron there.
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bobjr posted:I wonder if Hagrid eventually apologized for the Spider thing, since only dumb luck saved Harry and Ron there. Let's be real here; Hagrid went into the forest and apologized to Aragog for sending Harry and Ron to get him involved in that whole situation and also probably running over a few of his children
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Asterite34 posted:Let's be real here; Hagrid went into the forest and apologized to Aragog for sending Harry and Ron to get him involved in that whole situation and also probably running over a few of his children He really is the best character.
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Dumbledore discovered 12 uses of dragon's blood
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I thought it was just the twelfth.
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Dabir posted:I thought it was just the twelfth. It was. It was lube.
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None of those uses included "keeping a dragon alive."
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It was Dumbledore’s idea to have the first triwizard task be sending students seemingly unknown into a fight with a dragon.
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muscles like this! posted:https://x.com/PopCrave/status/1917776158126661667 Is it because he went against her anti-trans hate or because he's black? Whatever poo poo sticks, I guess? Director Mark Mylod Begs J. K. Rowling To Drop Lawsuit After Harry Potter Author Reclaims Harry Potter Rights After Seeing Black Actor Play Severus Snape https://luxury.amazingtoday.net/int...uthor-taydaica/ edit: Rowling then clarified her position: “I don’t have the power to sack an actor from the series and I wouldn’t exercise it if I did. I don’t believe in taking away people’s jobs or livelihoods because they hold legally protected beliefs that differ from mine.” https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/j-k-rowling-wont-fire-harry-potter-snape-actor-1236207399/ eh tabloid poo poo. So tired. Zesty fucked around with this message at 19:52 on May 21, 2025 |
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Zesty posted:Rowling then clarified her position: “I don’t have the power to sack an actor from the series and I wouldn’t exercise it if I did. I don’t believe in taking away people’s jobs or livelihoods because they hold legally protected beliefs that differ from mine.” This is eventually going to get her chucked out of the TERF community for being too conciliatory.
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