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feedmegin posted:Why do you think Hogwarts is an elementary school? It's a standard British secondary school, you start there at 11 and graduate at 16 or 18 (I don't think it's quite clear whether it has a Sixth Form since Harry has other things to think about in the last couple of books). Where Harry or the others went for primary school is never really covered I think; for Muggles presumably just a normal state one. Fair, yeah, again, I think the differences in school demarcation and stuff is throwing me for a loop. American and all that.
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They graduate from Hogwarts at 17, just to be difficult.
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Dabir posted:They graduate from Hogwarts at 17, just to be difficult. Wizards just loving love prime numbers, for some reason Given the educational system, it's probably the most complicated mathematical concept they understand
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https://bsky.app/profile/skeiththeterror.bsky.social/post/3m4mb74ufwk2p You know the franchise is rancid when even the Fortnite leaker thinks this is bad lmao
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Asterite34 posted:Wizards just loving love prime numbers, for some reason prime numbers and alliteration
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Asterite34 posted:Wizards just loving love prime numbers, for some reason Slughorn's memory has Tom Riddle saying that 7 would be a good number of soul pieces because it's "the most magically powerful number", a concept that is never alluded to anywhere else in the series and is immediately forgotten.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Slughorn's memory has Tom Riddle saying that 7 would be a good number of soul pieces because it's "the most magically powerful number", a concept that is never alluded to anywhere else in the series and is immediately forgotten. I think this one can fairly be chalked up to Tom Riddle just being a psycho. That's also the explanation for why he wants specifically Horcruxes from the Hogwarts Founders. It's all very patently intended to be irrational, the kind of thing a malignant narcissist or psychopath would feel compelled to do.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Slughorn's memory has Tom Riddle saying that 7 would be a good number of soul pieces because it's "the most magically powerful number", a concept that is never alluded to anywhere else in the series and is immediately forgotten. Think about it! 7 Horcruxes 7 Harry Potter books 7 Elevens 7 Dwarves 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch
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Dabir posted:They graduate from Hogwarts at 17, just to be difficult. I don't think they do though. Harry's birthday is in the middle of the summer holidays so he's one of the youngest in his year. So he spends all of Philosopher's Stone as an 11 year old but everyone else turned 12 at various points in the story. Hermione and Ron would've been 18 by the end of Deathly Hallows. Wizards legally come of age at 17 for some loving reason though.
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7 is historically thought of as a significant or magical number, be fair. Seventh son of a seventh son crops up in folk tales, that sort of thing.
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Guy A. Person posted:Think about it!
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Dabir posted:7 is historically thought of as a significant or magical number, be fair. Seventh son of a seventh son crops up in folk tales, that sort of thing. No right definitely it’s not that Rowling just pulled the number out of her rear end, just like the rest of the magic lore it is based on precedent. It’s just that it’s mentioned once and nothing interesting is ever done with it aside from being like “the bad guy has seven of something”
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She loves 7, she also referred to the cast as her "lucky 7", i believe referring to the main three, draco, ginny, neville, and luna. This was of course before she turned on the cast for being decent people
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caspergers posted:prime numbers and alliteration And mock Latin.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Slughorn's memory has Tom Riddle saying that 7 would be a good number of soul pieces because it's "the most magically powerful number", a concept that is never alluded to anywhere else in the series and is immediately forgotten. i think harry learns that 3 and 7 are powerful really early on, back when she just threw any piece of whimsy into the mix
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I imagine numbers and their magical relevance is probably covered in Arithmancy, but since Harry doesn't really care about learning things unless they're directly relevant to his current problems, he never signed up for it.
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Would you want to try to do any serious academic work when you're always going to be busy trying not to get killed from Halloween to finals? It's not like Dumbledore, the guy with a deeply unhealthy interest in someone else's kid who also can't be bothered to see to it he gets any reasonable care, is going to let them expel him.
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Harry's last fight with Voldemort has a "7 ate 9" joke.
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bobjr posted:Harry's last fight with Voldemort has a "7 ate 9" joke.  "You dare!?" "Yes i dare!"
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stev posted:Wizards legally come of age at 17 for some loving reason though. Being able to drive a car happens age 17 (or at least did at the time of the books, no idea now). I always assumed the apportation exams were riffing on a driver's test. That's the only legal change at 17 I know of, but it's a significant enough one that it could drift into the books
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stev posted:I don't think they do though. Harry's birthday is in the middle of the summer holidays so he's one of the youngest in his year. So he spends all of Philosopher's Stone as an 11 year old but everyone else turned 12 at various points in the story. Hermione and Ron would've been 18 by the end of Deathly Hallows. Even the Dursleys were confused when Dumbledore brought that factoid up lmao. It also retroactively ruins Krum because it changes his thing with Hermione in book 4 from "cute, older exchange student is interested in this nerd" to "Adult wizard is hitting on this minor." Because aside from that, Krum really is cool for being willing to punch someone who's sporting the equivalent of the swastika out in public.
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Yes but a 17 year old dating a 14 year old is a loving creep in any context.
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stev posted:Yes but a 17 year old dating a 14 year old is a loving creep in any context. Actually I think krum was 18, didn't he get held back a year for being a superstar?
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hermione was fifteen point zero zero years old, and krum assures me she was very mature for her age,
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don’t worry, Joanne later clarified in a tweet that wizards don’t have an age of consent, so it’s all good.
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W.T. Fits posted:I imagine numbers and their magical relevance is probably covered in Arithmancy, but since Harry doesn't really care about learning things unless they're directly relevant to his current problems, he never signed up for it. Harry was so frustrating as the main character we follow. I guess it's not all his fault since he legitimately did need to deal with whatever stupid plan Voldemort was doing each year, but a lot of the super interesting things he could learn or pursue were near at hand and he just couldn't be bothered. At some point the books even stopped using the "use the tiny bit of stuff we showed them learning to solve a big problem in the end" formula. Jazerus posted:i think harry learns that 3 and 7 are powerful really early on, back when she just threw any piece of whimsy into the mix Naruto learned a forbidden high level magic trick early on but across his journeys they had him iterate on it and learn to use it in new and novel ways as things escalate. But that's a setting where the magic they do is actively studied and experimented with to form new things, plus they use and incorporate technology. Khanstant fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Nov 3, 2025 |
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Wolfechu posted:Being able to drive a car happens age 17 (or at least did at the time of the books, no idea now). I always assumed the apportation exams were riffing on a driver's test. You can join the Army as a full member (you can at 16 but then you go to Army kiddy school for a year before proper training) feedmegin fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Nov 4, 2025 |
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caspergers posted:She loves 7, she also referred to the cast as her "lucky 7", i believe referring to the main three, draco, ginny, neville, and luna. This was of course before she turned on the cast for being decent people For some reason seven shows up a lot in fairy tales (there's seven dwarfs for example) so it's not weird that Rowling would use it too.
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Khanstant posted:Harry was so frustrating as the main character we follow. I guess it's not all his fault since he legitimately did need to deal with whatever stupid plan Voldemort was doing each year, but a lot of the super interesting things he could learn or pursue were near at hand and he just couldn't be bothered. At some point the books even stopped using the "use the tiny bit of stuff we showed them learning to solve a big problem in the end" formula. A narrative about a former Chosen One who has to deal with life After would be super interesting. Someone who by necessity spent their childhood learning very specific and very dangerous poo poo to defeat the Big Bad, but missed out on being a normal kid and learning about normal things (or at least normal in the context of whatever magical world they live in).
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Seanan McGuire's Wayward Children series is basically that.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:A narrative about a former Chosen One who has to deal with life After would be super interesting. Someone who by necessity spent their childhood learning very specific and very dangerous poo poo to defeat the Big Bad, but missed out on being a normal kid and learning about normal things (or at least normal in the context of whatever magical world they live in). The Cursed Child did a bit of this, specifically surrounding how difficult Harry found it to relate to his own normal, not Chosen One kids. But like everything else in that play it wasn't done very well.
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There's the novel The Boy Detective Fails by Joe Meno which is about a former child detective (in the Encyclopedia Brown vein) who had a breakdown when he grew up and started dealing with real crimes. It plays out like a more maudlin Venture Bros as he ends up in a halfway house that's full of his old enemies.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:A narrative about a former Chosen One who has to deal with life After would be super interesting. Someone who by necessity spent their childhood learning very specific and very dangerous poo poo to defeat the Big Bad, but missed out on being a normal kid and learning about normal things (or at least normal in the context of whatever magical world they live in). So, kinda what happened to Ocarina of Time Link after Majora's Mask.
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There's also Daryl Gregory's We Are All Completely Fine, which is about a support group for, basically, the surviving protagonists of horror stories, but the viewpoint character is a former monster-fighting kid hero.
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I thought Harry was fine with his other two kids he just didn’t like the one with bad vibes. Granted the other two kids are basically props with not much to show for them.
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bobjr posted:I thought Harry was fine with his other two kids he just didn’t like the one with bad vibes. Shouldn't have named him after the man who ruined his childhood then
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YaketySass posted:Shouldn't have named him after the man who ruined his childhood then Let's be fair, he named him after both the men who ruined his childhood
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:A narrative about a former Chosen One who has to deal with life After would be super interesting. Someone who by necessity spent their childhood learning very specific and very dangerous poo poo to defeat the Big Bad, but missed out on being a normal kid and learning about normal things (or at least normal in the context of whatever magical world they live in). I always thought there was neat potential for a Harry who, after the last book, dropped out of magical society and went back to get his GSCEs and A-levels. Come back to him in his 30's, with a normal-rear end life to try and manage his crippling PTSD surrounding the magical world, and have them try to pull him back in to save them from whatever rear end in a top hat they let tip their government over this time. GimpInBlack posted:There's also Daryl Gregory's We Are All Completely Fine, which is about a support group for, basically, the surviving protagonists of horror stories, but the viewpoint character is a former monster-fighting kid hero. Also Grady Hendrix's 'Final Girl Support Group', which is as you'd guess about a support group for survivors of slasher film style massacres, who someone goes after again years later. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 4, 2025 |
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:A narrative about a former Chosen One who has to deal with life After would be super interesting. Someone who by necessity spent their childhood learning very specific and very dangerous poo poo to defeat the Big Bad, but missed out on being a normal kid and learning about normal things (or at least normal in the context of whatever magical world they live in). I mean arguably Dune Messiah which is really the last part of Dune that was shorn off and made its own book. But Dune in general is an examination and deconstruction of the Chosen One myths. Part of why it was so funny that there were some dumbass libs whining about Paul being a white savior when they announced the DUNC movie. Like, yeah, he is, that's the entire loving point and the whole series is centered around examining and criticizing that fact. "The White Savior shows up and boy howdy does it loving suck for everyone!" is the thesis of Dune. But yeah, I think you could not do that with Potter because Harry himself is such a weak character - I'd say he's largely reactionary but even that's not true. Again, his reaction to learning about wizard racism is not to form an opinion on it, but merely to hope no one thinks he's racist. - and moreover because the world around him is so poorly defined and it seems like most adults in it are barely adults. Like Hell, Harry's also loaded as gently caress even without being famous. Harry even if he wasn't the Chosen One need never adjust to normal life because he's loving more than wealthy enough to be idle rich. That Harry became a cop was out of choice, not necessity. There's no way he could not support himself, Ginny, and the kids on his inheritance.
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