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JeremoudCorbynejad
Jul 6, 2007



i'd dock in your shuttle bay

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Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008






cursed page now

Queadlunn
Dec 10, 2005

Yak Deculture!


Fallen Rib

Hunter Noventa posted:

I'll always have a soft spot for everything in the original Macross.

The Macross itself.


...
The awesomeness and utility of the transformations just does it for me.

SIBLING!

Though I like the Do You Remember Love? version more:

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010


Queadlunn posted:

SIBLING!

Though I like the Do You Remember Love? version more:


Both are good! I have a very nice WHAM Model of the DYRL version...but the DYRL version can't do the Daedalus attack.

I need a better copy of DYRL too, I think the one I bought was some kind of bootleg. But just talking about it makes me want to watch the series again.

SavageGentleman
Feb 28, 2010

I've got to run, I'll be seeing you!

- from about 6,000 feet!


Fallen Rib

How did this whole transformation deal start anyway? A mech by itself might be a maintenance nightmare, but a mech transforming into a jet just doubles or tripples these issues. Space F35 for everyone?
Edit: as a ship, the macross looks very fine!

SavageGentleman fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Jul 20, 2020

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010


SavageGentleman posted:

How did this whole transformation deal start anyway? A mech by itself might be a maintenance nightmare, but a mech transforming into a jet just doubles or tripples these issues. Space F35 for everyone?
Edit: as a ship, the macross looks very fine!

It's weird, the Macross was built to transform originally (it's basically a refurbished alien gunship that crash landed on Earth), and it's not really explained why it was built that way, to my knowledge. In the show they did the transformation because they broke some piece of alien tech they couldn't replace, and transforming let them fire the main gun again.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

~this is me posting irl~


I remember in SDF Macross they find a wreck of another Supervision Army ship at one point, do we ever see operational Supervision Army ships (in original state, not after having been salvaged and hotwired)?

Vernii
Dec 7, 2006



The Brunhilde from LOGH is one of my favorites. It looks like a space yacht but it fits the Imperial trend of building grandiose warships that prioritize aesthetics.





I also love the Alliance warships like the Hyperion from the same series for their highly contrasting utilitarian appearance. They have a Soviet-style "all business, no frills" attitude to their design, just space bricks with engines and lasers.



Last two images are both fanart by Hideyoshi.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.




Vernii posted:

grandiose warships that prioritize aesthetics.

Here's some Horatio warships from ES2

WilWheaton
Oct 11, 2006

Oh my god it's Hitler's dog!



Vernii posted:

The Brunhilde from LOGH is one of my favorites. It looks like a space yacht but it fits the Imperial trend of building grandiose warships that prioritize aesthetics.

the part of LOGH that I couldn't get into was that they held onto these aesthetics and giant roomy ships with hundreds of years of relentless ww1-style-attrition space combat. It just never made sense to me and always bugged me , which is why I think I only got like 20 episodes in .

poo poo should have been reduced to absolute functionality and scarcity it felt like

ThingOne
Jul 30, 2011



Would you like some tofu?




Salad Prong

The Galactic Empire controlled a good chunk of a galactic arm with an industrial base built up over half a millennium. Considering that they were almost always on the offensive in the war it makes sense that they could pump out ships as fast as they could find lovely noble failsons to captain them.

SavageGentleman
Feb 28, 2010

I've got to run, I'll be seeing you!

- from about 6,000 feet!


Fallen Rib

The space battles of LOGH prepared me for the death ball battle formations of EVE Online. Also from the other side: getting popped within a second at the start of an epic battle because your avatar's name starts with "a" helps understanding how many ships and crews were thrown away in by db admirals on both sides in LOGH.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.




SavageGentleman posted:

The space battles of LOGH prepared me for the death ball battle formations of EVE Online. Also from the other side: getting popped within a second at the start of an epic battle because your avatar's name starts with "a" helps understanding how many ships and crews were thrown away in by db admirals on both sides in LOGH.

"To those in power, there is nothing cheaper than other people's lives."

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011


WilWheaton posted:

the part of LOGH that I couldn't get into was that they held onto these aesthetics and giant roomy ships with hundreds of years of relentless ww1-style-attrition space combat. It just never made sense to me and always bugged me , which is why I think I only got like 20 episodes in .

poo poo should have been reduced to absolute functionality and scarcity it felt like

LOGH also runs into the issue pretty much all Space Opera does where theres no way a state operating under the goddamn Feudal System could last so long much less be a major power. Industrialization whether it be basic steam engines or fancy laser guns jus makes it untenable. I understand the show is supposed to be the Franco-Prussian War IN SPACE where Reinhardt is Bismarck and The FPA is the collapsing Second Republic/Second Empire and all but they made the Empire just too unbelievably backwards. In the end Feudalism couldn't even stand up to other monarchies so it's a joke it lasted centuries against a foe that before the start of series was a well run Industrialized state. Hell the Empire wouldn't have been able to keep itself together FPA or no.

Edit: I realized I posted a rant about anime politics instead of cool space ships, so heres one of my favorite fighter designs of all time the Vic Viper, which like most schmup hero ships is the most cost efficient weapon in fiction. Who needs a Death Star when a single pilot can destroy the entire enemy military as well as possibly their homeward/dimension/timeline.


Also they made a badass tribute to it in Destiny and the fact they haven't added it back in Destiny 2 is a crime.

galagazombie fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jul 21, 2020

Musluk
May 23, 2011




The whole destiny 2 turned into a crime post forsaken, really.

Anyway, cool but impractical as gently caress ships from a wtf inducing movie, Jupiter Ascending:







I just love the insect wing style these guys have a lot.

ptkfvk
Apr 30, 2013



i recently watched jupiter rising with my girlfriend. it honestly isnt that bad. its totally insane and very stupid but it has funny moments and looks cool.

it looks like what i imagine the culture universe looking like.

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012

Well, there goes our grant money.





Rewatching Cowboy Bebop and forgot how much I loved the modular design of the space trucks in "Heavy Metal Queen"


Simple yet unique


Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"


Musluk posted:

The whole destiny 2 turned into a crime post forsaken, really.

Anyway, cool but impractical as gently caress ships from a wtf inducing movie, Jupiter Ascending:







I just love the insect wing style these guys have a lot.

I was never interested in seeing Jupiter Ascending until you posted these ship images. They're glorious.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.



Bogus Adventure posted:

I was never interested in seeing Jupiter Ascending until you posted these ship images. They're glorious.

It's batshit crazy but absolutely worth a watch. Hated the ending though.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

Brush your teeth.


ptkfvk posted:

it looks like what i imagine the culture universe looking like.

That was exactly what I thought when I saw it.

The Wachowskis would probably be my top pick to do a Culture film, actually. Villeneuve is great and all but he's a bit too po faced. The Wachowskis have the politics, the ambition, and the flat out weirdness that a good Banks adaptation demands

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005



The Culture stuff is getting a TV from Amazon.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


muscles like this! posted:

The Culture stuff is getting a TV from Amazon.

Oh, for real?

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014




Hell Gem

muscles like this! posted:

The Culture stuff is getting a TV from Amazon.

Something grimly ironic about this, but I'll probably check it out.

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007



I'm legit looking forward to watching Consider Bezos.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




Don't get your hopes up. It's been stalled for a long time, though. Like since before the rona hit. Long enough that I suspect the IP was bought just to keep competitors from doing anything with it more than making it themselves.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



frogge posted:

Don't get your hopes up. It's been stalled for a long time, though. Like since before the rona hit. Long enough that I suspect the IP was bought just to keep competitors from doing anything with it more than making it themselves.

It's this. There's no way mass media gets on-board with the Culture. Even if you found some madhouse visionary and executives willing to commit, everything about it is prohibitively expensive.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




It's really too bad. I'd love to see a culture show made, too.
I dunno how well it would stay to the original writing or how much would get altered for creative liberties. I'm having a hard time picturing an Amazon series having an anti-capitalist post-scarcity message whenever the protagonists encounter cash anywhere.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



I mean if you want to get the hyper-capitalists at Amazon might have bought the rights just to ensure no one could make a message about how loving awesome it would be to live in a world with hyperintelligent AI, transgender-at-will tech, drug glands in your brain, and no need to work. But that's another thread.

On awesome spaceships, Power Rangers has some surprisingly decent ones:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RUpCduhJzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X894FfDkXs

I love how the first one-- the Astro Megazord-- is actually the HQ for the Rangers complete with living quarters, so it raises some wonderfully dumb questions about whether or not their poo poo goes flying when it transforms or not. Although yeah, it's kind-of a ripoff of The Defiant:



Then Lost Galaxy had "Terra Venture" which is solid for Kid's First Space Station:



Complete with a biome just for replicating those cheap Japanese countryside filming locations:


mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Aug 1, 2020

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.




frogge posted:

It's really too bad. I'd love to see a culture show made, too.
I dunno how well it would stay to the original writing or how much would get altered for creative liberties. I'm having a hard time picturing an Amazon series having an anti-capitalist post-scarcity message whenever the protagonists encounter cash anywhere.

Zac Snyder's "Consider Phlebas," just a purely a love letter to Horza.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747


mind the walrus posted:

It's this. There's no way mass media gets on-board with the Culture. Even if you found some madhouse visionary and executives willing to commit, everything about it is prohibitively expensive.

Bezos claims to love the books:
https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/966312919079112705?s=20
He certainly has the money. Fans politics not matching up with the author is pretty common. I'm also a big culture fan but it didn't turn me into a socialist either. The whole omniscient AI thing running the show also serves to distance it from modern economics. Would have a hard time imagining social conservatives being fans though.

JeremoudCorbynejad
Jul 6, 2007



You'd be surprised what conservatives can be fans of.

There are more libertarian fans of Star Trek than you'd think.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008


JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

There are more libertarian fans of Star Trek than you'd think.

I donít think any number would surprise me.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis




JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

You'd be surprised what conservatives can be fans of.

There are more libertarian fans of Star Trek than you'd think.

Yeah, there is a whole goddamn cottage industry of Basically Nazis on YouTube who piss and moan about how much Star Trek sucks these days and how they want it to be TNG again when TNG was all about telling folks like them to gently caress the hell off, or at least stop being loving grognards about everything.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



Squizzle posted:

cursed page now

Holy gently caress you were not kidding.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"


mind the walrus posted:

I mean if you want to get the hyper-capitalists at Amazon might have bought the rights just to ensure no one could make a message about how loving awesome it would be to live in a world with hyperintelligent AI, transgender-at-will tech, drug glands in your brain, and no need to work. But that's another thread.

On awesome spaceships, Power Rangers has some surprisingly decent ones:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RUpCduhJzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X894FfDkXs

I love how the first one-- the Astro Megazord-- is actually the HQ for the Rangers complete with living quarters, so it raises some wonderfully dumb questions about whether or not their poo poo goes flying when it transforms or not. Although yeah, it's kind-of a ripoff of The Defiant:



Then Lost Galaxy had "Terra Venture" which is solid for Kid's First Space Station:



Complete with a biome just for replicating those cheap Japanese countryside filming locations:



This owns, and now I have the Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy theme song stuck in my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOh26JYwLOs

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014




Hell Gem

For a game made by ex-Homeworld devs, I always thought Sins of a Solar Empire and relatively lame ship design. But they definitely got better at it, culminating in their Titans, gigantic super units with a plethora of abilities. They fit their factions well, for example TEC's were floating brick shithouses, Advent's were overdesigned and ritualistic, Vasari's looked semi-organic. My favourite were the Advent Rebel's Eradica, a real work of art

and the Vasari Loyalist's manta-like Vorastra, which could literally devour entire enemy fleets whole.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis




Mordja posted:

For a game made by ex-Homeworld devs, I always thought Sins of a Solar Empire and relatively lame ship design. But they definitely got better at it, culminating in their Titans, gigantic super units with a plethora of abilities. They fit their factions well, for example TEC's were floating brick shithouses, Advent's were overdesigned and ritualistic, Vasari's looked semi-organic. My favourite were the Advent Rebel's Eradica, a real work of art

and the Vasari Loyalist's manta-like Vorastra, which could literally devour entire enemy fleets whole.


You should check out the Star Trek Armada III mod for Sins of a Solar Empire. It is stupidly well done and a worthy successor to both Armada and Armada II if you've ever played either game.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014




Hell Gem

nine-gear crow posted:

You should check out the Star Trek Armada III mod for Sins of a Solar Empire. It is stupidly well done and a worthy successor to both Armada and Armada II if you've ever played either game.

Oh yeah, I've played the Armada games and the very excellent Fleet Ops mod for the second. I've also played the Armada III mod for Sins and it's a ridiculously impressive piece of work. Almost certainly the best mod for the game, and the same team is also working on a series of era-focused conversions that really change how it plays.

OtherworldlyInvader
Feb 10, 2005

The X-COM project did not deliver the universe's ultimate cup of coffee. You have failed to save the Earth.




Mordja posted:

For a game made by ex-Homeworld devs, I always thought Sins of a Solar Empire and relatively lame ship design.

Almost all of the concept art in Homeworld/Homeworld2 is credited to Art Director Rob Cunningham and Lead Artist J. Aaron Kambeitz, neither of whom worked on Sins of a Solar Empire. For the most part, Rob C designed the Kushan ships and JAK designed the Taiidan. Both of them are at Blackbird Interactive which is working on a Homeworld 3 so I'm cautiously optimistic on the game!

https://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/concept/hw_concept.htm
https://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/concept/hw_storyboards.htm
https://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hw2/concept.htm

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Mordja
Apr 26, 2014




Hell Gem

OtherworldlyInvader posted:

Almost all of the concept art in Homeworld/Homeworld2 is credited to Art Director Rob Cunningham and Lead Artist J. Aaron Kambeitz, neither of whom worked on Sins of a Solar Empire. For the most part, Rob C designed the Kushan ships and JAK designed the Taiidan. Both of them are at Blackbird Interactive which is working on a Homeworld 3 so I'm cautiously optimistic on the game!

https://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/concept/hw_concept.htm
https://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/concept/hw_storyboards.htm
https://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hw2/concept.htm

Oh, I know. Trust me, I know.

I absolutely adored HW:DoK and people seem big into Shipbreaker so they're two for two in my book.

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