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Alarbus
Mar 31, 2010


blindjoe posted:

Motorhomes always seem like a worse idea - when you get to your destination with a truck/trailer, you can unhook the truck and use it like a normal vehicle.
When you are in a motorhome, you need to pull a small car or something as you can't drive a huge thing easily around town.

Also engines etc wear out in a motorhome, but you can always buy a new truck (though from all the posts it seems that everything else leaks/breaks etc after a few years instead).

This is from my grandparents experience with a 1972 home done conversion van - so maybe modern/non-home made motorhomes are better. Though the neighbours motorhome seems to spend more time at the repair shop on warranty (a 3 ish year old large box motorhome) than it does in their driveway. They use it for 4 months a year, and basically leaks every time.

I thought the motorhome was supposed to sit while the kids refused to ride in it, then sit until it was sold cheap so someone could put the 440 into an old muscle car that would eventually run?

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Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010


I don't like this countdown thing. It feels ominous. gently caress you, Lowtax

blindjoe
Jan 10, 2001


Alarbus posted:

I thought the motorhome was supposed to sit while the kids refused to ride in it, then sit until it was sold cheap so someone could put the 440 into an old muscle car that would eventually run?

Kids or Wife, one or the other.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

I will decide who posts John Howard pictures in this thread and the circumstances in which they post.


Beach Bum posted:

I don't like this countdown thing. It feels ominous. gently caress you, Lowtax

What are you talking about?

wallaka
Jun 8, 2010

Least it wasn't a fucking red shell


Nidhg00670000 posted:

Usually, they are also about as safe in a crash as a wet paper bag.

A paper bag constructed by a bunch of methheads.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010


You Am I posted:

What are you talking about?

Earlier there was a countdown at the top of the page. It is gone now.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.


Looking at the way motorhomes and trailers are put together makes me physically uncomfortable. I've built shipping crates more structural than most of those things and people spend 5, even 6 figures on them? loving HARD pass, sorry.

Now, buying them after other people have soaked up all the depreciation, topgear/reaver roundy round racing them, then ripping the motor out and putting it in something more deserving? Sure.

https://youtu.be/ohkAxbeMxVo

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

I think you mean dont piss in the sink....again!

*Astromonica plays*

Even MORE annoyingly there is one cylinder firing now so I now know I have fuel, spark, compression AND engine timing.

gently caress THIS CAR

You Am I
May 20, 2001

I will decide who posts John Howard pictures in this thread and the circumstances in which they post.


I was out shopping today and came across these two cars



The green one is a Suzuki Cappuccino with a TVR badge on it, and the yellow is a Suzuki Mightyboy

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



You Am I posted:

I was out shopping today and came across these two cars



The green one is a Suzuki Cappuccino with a TVR badge on it, and the yellow is a Suzuki Mightyboy

I'll take cars I cannot fit in for 500 thanks Alex.

(saying that I did own a Toyota Sera, and a 1989 TX3 Laser)

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

Enjoy some motorhome crash testing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuNOarORALM

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof


You Am I posted:

I was out shopping today and came across these two cars



The green one is a Suzuki Cappuccino with a TVR badge on it, and the yellow is a Suzuki Mightyboy

Both of those are parked in a single (half depth) American-sized parking space.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

Aww, so I had my slant on. Lay off me!



I'm the completely useless airbags

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.



That's 1960's Volkswagen levels of crash safety.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

I think you mean dont piss in the sink....again!


Dunno if enjoy is the right word..... more like cringing at how bad they both did. How on earth is that second one even close to have being allowed to be on sale new in 2017?!?!

quote:

That's 1960's Volkswagen levels of crash safety.

Dont insult the Volkswagen like that. Those RV's are way worse

NitroSpazzz
Dec 8, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!




Wife's been talking about the Sprinter and similar RV conversions...some of them do look nice but man that's a good chunk of money for something I really doubt we would use that often. I'm pushing for renting a few times a year instead, has to be better than maintaining and storing yet another vehicle.


Had a local shop do an initial corner balance and alignment on the Formula Ford this week so that's one step closer to being ready for when tracks open back up. I've been bombarded by track day and racing organizations in the past week or so about things opening back up and days available but I'm still leery about it. Dad's offered to drive their RV down and go with me, handling all the tech inspection and registration stuff to help me stay away from people. I'm 50/50 on whether it's worth it, Wife is against it.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

EVERYWHERE
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!




I like how the chassis tries to exit out the rear.

I don't like how they use the passengers as crumple zones.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk


CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Dunno if enjoy is the right word..... more like cringing at how bad they both did. How on earth is that second one even close to have being allowed to be on sale new in 2017?!?!

quote:

The Transport Administration decided to take a closer look and opened an in-depth study on motorhomes safety. They selected two types of motorhomes, one semi-integrated and one fully integrated.
The first one retains the manufacturers’ driver cabin while the latter only uses the chassis. Both are built on the basis of a Fiat Ducato van, which is Europe’s most common motorhome platform (84%).
The Swedes decided to use the same frontal collision test used by Euro NCAP for passenger cars. It consists of a frontal crash into a concrete barrier and wall at a speed of 64 kph. It corresponds to a frontal crash with a car at 90 kph, which is, unfortunately, the most common scenario.
...
For the semi-integrated motorhome, the driver’s seat detached and was projected backwards towards a child seat. Plus, the cabin was completely crushed.
The fully integrated motorhome results are even worse. The shock dislocated the body from the chassis and the cabin was crushed until the second row of seats.

https://newmobility.news/2019/05/24...h-test-results/

So apart from the fact that nothing inside behind the passengers seems to even consider safety (eg that bulkhead right behind the drivers head), I suspect there’s still a “commercial vehicle” loophole at play here. While commercial vans have gotten safer and do have airbags and other avoidance tech, they still don’t seem to have to meet the same standards as passenger cars and are still dangerous as gently caress, even before the motor home guys get to them.

I mean when they talk about the body ripping off the chassis - isn’t that what still happens with literally every body on frame vehicle, from Land Rovers to F250 to semi trucks, in a big enough impact?

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

I think you mean dont piss in the sink....again!

BuckyDoneGun posted:

https://newmobility.news/2019/05/24...h-test-results/


I mean when they talk about the body ripping off the chassis - isn’t that what still happens with literally every body on frame vehicle, from Land Rovers to F250 to semi trucks, in a big enough impact?

Given that the second RV is literally half made from wood, I would imagine that it would take a significantly bigger impact to rip a F250's body off its chassis. I'm pretty sure even a Model T would be safer in crash at this point.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

RV crash safety is pretty horribe. But as a compensation link: https://mubi.com - for once sponsored videos actually led to something good. 30 day trial of movies that are chosen by the site. Watching some random french film about a german officer living with a french family during the war and it's good. Well worth a sign up if you are bored and feeling like watching some movies that aren't super anglosaxian / american.

Also, I just walked past a 70's GTV 2000 which rekindled my need for a GTV6.

MrOnBicycle fucked around with this message at 13:02 on May 9, 2020

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Given that the second RV is literally half made from wood, I would imagine that it would take a significantly bigger impact to rip a F250's body off its chassis. I'm pretty sure even a Model T would be safer in crash at this point.

The other half is compacted cardboard to look like wood.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006




I'll just stay in a hotel.

Really, unless you're using an RV every other week or actually living in it what's the point. For the ridiculous prices of RVs these days you could stay in nice hotels at the destination you wanted to go to and rent a drat car if you need one.

If I feel the need to go camping I'll use a tent.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

EVERYWHERE
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!



Applebees Appetizer posted:

I'll just stay in a hotel.

Really, unless you're using an RV every other week or actually living in it what's the point. For the ridiculous prices of RVs these days you could stay in nice hotels at the destination you wanted to go to and rent a drat car if you need one.

If I feel the need to go camping I'll use a tent.

Look at this guy, talking like we still lived in the time of aeroplanes.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



I can still drive my (safe) car, just like an RV, to any destination and stay at a hotel with solid walls and a real bathroom

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004









Fun Shoe

This is a strange conversation given that we know a forward control camper fixes all these problems with cardboard construction

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

EVERYWHERE
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taqueso posted:

This is a strange conversation given that we know a forward control camper killdozer fixes all these problems with cardboard construction

Tremek
Jun 10, 2005



Ether Frenzy posted:

It's a lot easier to wreck a million dollar car if you're a billionaire, it's true!

You're a madman, in the best sense of the word.

So along these lines, woke up today and decided by first and best course of action was to tweet to Elon. Conveniently my wife wasn't awake yet to stop me!

https://twitter.com/dorashan/status...0094064640?s=20

Would be about as surreal as as anything the simulation's thrown at me to see Elon come back at me.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

EVERYWHERE
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!



Tremek posted:

So along these lines, woke up today and decided by first and best course of action was to tweet to Elon. Conveniently my wife wasn't awake yet to stop me!

https://twitter.com/dorashan/status...0094064640?s=20

Would be about as surreal as as anything the simulation's thrown at me to see Elon come back at me.

On the Elon front, did everyone else read the WSJ story yesterday that Elon is fantastically cash poor. To the point that he has 3 homes in the LA area on the market, plus he has $1 billion in stock options open, but he needs ~$600M cash to exercise them... and he doesn't have the scratch. What he does have is 20% Tesla stock which he needs for his controlling interest, but has that leveraged, too...

I've said for years that Musk is going to go down as a genius or a huckster, and the resolution is going to be binary.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

Psst! It's me!
The Sinister with the mutant gene.


So is that why he tried to ruin the value of Tesla stock?

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr

taqueso posted:

This is a strange conversation given that we know a forward control camper fixes all these problems with cardboard construction

i think it would all be down to what I hit. if I hit anything higher than a car infront of me at speed I am probably hosed! There is one layer of aluminium and a single horizontal steel between me and the world above the chassis.

Someone rolled one like mine in a 60 mph emergency motorway stop avoiding someone else and was badly concussed by flying interior debris but not otherwise injured and the body maintained most of its shape. Chassis was reusable!
I also went to look at another one that was hit head on by a drunk driver in a car doing 30-40mph or so. Car went underneath the chassis and broke the front axle off and pushed it right back. No serious injury to the forward control driver! Chassis was repairable!

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

For The Record...

I just found this on one of my Japanese campers. Dear God where have you been all of my life? Get one of these in 10 too and I can do everything I need on my imports. Is this a thing I was just not aware of?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.


Humphreys posted:

I'll take cars I cannot fit in for 500 thanks Alex.
There's more room in a Cappo than an MX5, as it happens.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Biscuit Hider


Can I just say that this travel plan is an incredibly stupid, dangerous and selfish thing to be even considering in this climate?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011





Bless him 😅

https://twitter.com/takiinoue/statu...7783919621?s=19

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.

meatpimp posted:

I've said for years that Musk is going to go down as a genius or a huckster, and the resolution is going to be binary.

He's not a king nerd any more, he's crossed into being just another Celebrity.

stevobob
Nov 16, 2008

Alchemy - the study of how to turn LS1's into a 20B.


Liquid Communism posted:

I'd assume not, almost every conversion on one of those I've seen compromises the not great to begin with structural integrity enough that anything but sitting in place is a collapse risk.

Shipping containers don't have great structural integrity? Aren't they designed to stack 20 high on rough oceans?

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!


MrChips posted:

Can I just say that this travel plan is an incredibly stupid, dangerous and selfish thing to be even considering in this climate?

Alright that's quite enough pearl clutching. It's not significantly worse than being inside a house, grocery shopping periodically, and occasionally going to the park or on a drive.

Safety Dance fucked around with this message at 00:21 on May 10, 2020

Captain McAllister
May 24, 2001


stevobob posted:

Shipping containers don't have great structural integrity? Aren't they designed to stack 20 high on rough oceans?


Yeah, but he's saying once they're converted into house pieces, they lose their integrity.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)

Tremek posted:

So along these lines, woke up today and decided by first and best course of action was to tweet to Elon. Conveniently my wife wasn't awake yet to stop me!

https://twitter.com/dorashan/status...0094064640?s=20

Would be about as surreal as as anything the simulation's thrown at me to see Elon come back at me.

Shoot your shot my man. It sounds like an awesome adventure the kids will remember forever.

For everyone else wondering about safety of RVs should just do as I do and get a roof tent. I got a luggable loo and a privacy tent that has been 100 times better than any vault toilet I’ve seen.

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MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Biscuit Hider

Safety Dance posted:

Alright that's quite enough pearl clutching. It's not significantly worse than being inside a house, grocery shopping periodically, and occasionally going to the park or on a drive.

It is a LOT worse than being isolated in your home. For starters, a significant number of people who have this virus will never show any symptoms of it, yet they can still spread it to others very easily, potentially spreading this poo poo all over the country. And if you happen to make a stop in a small town, you've probably just spread the virus to people who live somewhere likely without any effective healthcare means to deal with an outbreak. Additionally, if someone on this trip gets sick, that's putting an additional burden on someone else's healthcare system. Finally, I don't know how it is in that failed state you call the United States, but pretty much everywhere else in the world, if you travel somewhere from out of your region/state/province/whatever, you are required to self-isolate for 14 days, or 14 days after the last symptoms if you happen to be sick, so what even is the point of traveling anywhere right now, or any time in the near future?

But yes I will continue pearl-clutching. rear end in a top hat.

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