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what the gently caress is a Muppet some kind of gay puppet? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I thought you of all people would appreciate someone quoting your hero Dale Reed.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:48
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I don't even know who that is
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Powered Descent posted:s03e02 - Convictions That was a group of pak'ma'ra
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CainFortea posted:This is always hits me every time I rewatch. Is there a list of intros that have pertinent story points like this? I tend to skip the intros but I don't want to miss these
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Feb 25, 2022 21:12
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Most of B5's intros are pertinent to the story, but they are the same through the season. So if you see it once, you're good for that season. But I believe the first 1/4 of season 2 SHOULD be skipped on streaming platforms because it actually spoils something in that season.
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Feb 25, 2022 21:15
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CainFortea posted:Most of B5's intros are pertinent to the story, but they are the same through the season. So if you see it once, you're good for that season. But I believe the first 1/4 of season 2 SHOULD be skipped on streaming platforms because it actually spoils something in that season. I think they fixed that spoiler on the streaming platforms - the spoiler was on the US DVDs (but not the UK ones!)
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Feb 25, 2022 22:06
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alexandriao posted:Is there a list of intros that have pertinent story points like this? I tend to skip the intros but I don't want to miss these Basically there’s a new one each season watch the intro once for each. Edit: also don’t sweat the spoiler thing, it’s a prominent bit of misinfo at this point; every streaming service has fixed it, it’s the dvd’s that were bad. (And the spoiler in question was basically a character is shown in the credits who doesn’t show up on screen for a few episodes.) Chevy Slyme fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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Feb 25, 2022 22:35
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CainFortea posted:Most of B5's intros are pertinent to the story, but they are the same through the season. So if you see it once, you're good for that season. But I believe the first 1/4 of season 2 SHOULD be skipped on streaming platforms because it actually spoils something in that season. It doesn't. The only place where this was an issue was the original US DVD box set. The European DVDs and all the streaming services ever since have the correct intro without the spoiler you're talking about.
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Feb 25, 2022 22:58
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Zat posted:It doesn't. The only place where this was an issue was the original US DVD box set. The European DVDs and all the streaming services ever since have the correct intro without the spoiler you're talking about. Good to know.
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Yeah I'm... acquiring it via other means, so it doesn't mess up the daily watch with my folks S02E03: Hahaha so THAT'S the context for that scene. I barely remembered it but I must have seen a youtube clip of it maybe a decade ago. lmao. I loved the technomages but their magic was A Bit Crap. Granted, it was probably much more impressive in the 90s, and it made me think a bit about the technical details of how it might work. I'd imagine seeing that in real life would come off as impressive if you cannot obviously figure out why / how it does it's thing. Londo feels like more of an rear end this season all of a sudden. I think it's the power getting to his head a bit, but even so. He felt more grounded at the end of season 1, and now he seems very suddenly to be extremely self important and more... brusque? Not sure how to put it. I reallllyy hope the technomage's dressing down of him at the end helped, but I get the feeling that it hasn't. The technomage's list of questions that he can answer, and why he is leaving, felt underwhelming. I totalt get that they are leaving as some sort of Foundation-esque thing, but I don't think "how to tell someone you love them in three sentences" and "how to get rich" are really questions and answers worth preserving. I get that stronger answers or a more terse answer wouldn't have fit with their whole... vibe, though. It did also feel like they were too Magician-y, rather than sourceror-y. Like I feel they shouldn't have done any small parlour tricks. The exploding of the communication device was enough and while the hologram and the fuckery with Londo's financial records was funny, it kind of undermines the initial "people who can move mountains with a single enchantment" vibe that they seemed to be going for at the start. The green / purple stuff: resolution clever and funny. I feel like on a large scale the point is kind of valid, but not so on a smaller scale. Like, on a large scale, cultures of humans are still humans, sure. On a smaller political scale, the stuff happening the poo poo terfs pull is absolutely hosed up, even if they are only 300-odd people, and the pushback/fight against them does matter. So for me that undermines the "all humans are kinda the same, flag waving is meaningless" thing that it was trying to express. S02E04: Liked the out of the box solution from the new head of b5, and it builds nicely on him having a good grounding in history. A lot of shows would have stopped at him quoting famous figures, but no, he actually finds applications for this knowledge no matter how obscure. I'm excited to see him apply this knowledge further  It's also going to be interesting to see how the... anti-Vorlons develop. It's felt a little disappointing so far that they haven't been outright discovered yet, but the writers are very obvious biding their time and building up to something. I just wish the war wasn't in the intro. We see a ship get shot down by a beam in the intro credits and it feels like they are too open with that, such that it deflates the tension a bit rather than maintaining the idea that things are still peaceful, and just relying on the strong presence of the show to pull folks in. I liked the conception of hyperspace, the world feels more real and grounded than some other science fiction, like they actually sat down and puzzled out the technical details on some level, like they did with TNG. It feels intuitive, but still unique, and leaves latitude for scratching the itch of figuring out how things work S02E05: Not done with this episode yet but, god. That doctor would have been fired on the spot in the present day lol. He leads her into a kiss and then goes "whoops! we shouldn't be doing this!". So just don't get in so close that you lead into a kiss, fool! It is so, so nice seeing Barclay! Every time I spot a recognizable side role actor it gets me excited and helps the show feel more comfy. Also all the actors maintain the role of the show I first saw them in, it's the law. So really, it helps explain why Barclay was so traumatized in TNG! I like the symbiosis dealio and have about ten minutes left to see it play out, but if it's an energy lifeform type dealio, ehhhhhhhhh. They have a perfect opportunity to have like a mix between a goa'uald and the usual alien-that-hides-in-corners dealio, and it feels more horrifying if it had this parasite that crawls inside you, eats you, or leaves a bit of itself around to nudge you around for later eating
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alexandriao posted:S02E05: Not done with this episode yet but, god. That doctor would have been fired on the spot in the present day lol. He leads her into a kiss and then goes "whoops! we shouldn't be doing this!". So just don't get in so close that you lead into a kiss, fool! It's a common conspiracy theory that DS9 was a rip-off of B5. For some reason, nobody ever cites the smoking gun proof that both Franklin and Bashir share the same terrible medical ethics when it comes to relationships with patients.
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alexandriao posted:S02E03: Londo feels like more of an rear end this season all of a sudden. I think it's the power getting to his head a bit, but even so. He felt more grounded at the end of season 1, and now he seems very suddenly to be extremely self important and more... brusque? Not sure how to put it. Londo in season 1 was a loser, an old, powerless man in a worthless post at the end of his career. He was going nowhere, so he could afford to goof off all day, blowing his money on gambling, drinking, and strippers, or even blow everything on some grand final gesture. Now, between recovering the Eye and somehow handling a Narn border skirmish, Londo is in ascension, with prospects, and he has to work to get his ducks in order for the sake of his career. He's under pressure now that he has control of his destiny, and his ambition is blooming again. I feel like Londo is one of the most complex and dynamic characters in the series.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I feel like Londo is one of the most complex and dynamic characters in the series. It's an ensemble cast but I'll always argue if you're picking a main character for the show it's Londo.
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Not even the station itself? Boo! Yep, Londo it is.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I feel like Londo is one of the most complex and dynamic characters in the series. “One of?” The correct word is THE. Only G’Kar comes anywhere else.
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s03e03 - A Day in the Strife
s03e04 - Passing Through Gethsemane
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Rewatching with my folks, and two things are really jarring about the... mars independence brokering episode of season 2: Garabaldi and Talia really fucks with me. He's always creepily being nice to her in that nice guy way that creeps me out. He probably isn't that bad, like I don't think he would take advantage of her, but still, eughhh. Also, why the gently caress hasn't Talia been training her telekinesis?? Literally would not have been in half the trouble this season if she had developed that a bit more. Nobody else would even know because she keeps getting attacked in isolated corridors
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Garibaldi and Talia have weird chemistry that I'm not sure how much is planned as part of the show (since she is the representative on the station of Psycorp, a very shady organization that Garibaldi expects trouble out of), and how much is the fact that the actors were going through a very weird relationship during the course of the show where they got married and divorced during the show's run.
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Binged through several episodes, these will be a little brief. s03e05 - Voices of Authority
s03e06 - Dust to Dust
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Powered Descent posted:s03e05 - Voices of Authority It's unclear what's happening, although Ivanova surely believes she's using reverse psychology. We only know a few things: the Walkers don't like the Vorlons, they rejected a request to fight alongside them against the Shadows, and when Ivanova communicated that they really didn't need the extra help because they had the Vorlons, the Walkers said something rude again about the Vorlons and then agreed to assist. Their anger toward the Vorlons does not show up in their final (English) response to the request. That suggests that agreeing to help isn't the product of their rage toward the Vorlons, though they certainly have such rage. It's possible they want to show the Vorlons up. But it's also possible that they got emotionally prodded out of their initial response and then rethought the implications of the situation. Powered Descent posted:s03e06 - Dust to Dust Sure, if you take them regularly over a period of years. Bester isn't doing that. Powered Descent posted:s03e07 - Exogenesis Unstated in the episode, but I always thought the implication was that the aliens had money (in order for their hosts to survive and travel), they appreciated the sacrifice he made to preserve them, and they provided him with the funds he needed.
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Exogenesis is easy to forget about since it doesn't really hook into the "main" plot, but it is such an A+ sci-fi story (and subversion of expectations).
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S02E12: 19 minutes in, and again, this show is making me cry
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alexandriao posted:S02E12: 19 minutes in, and again, this show is making me cry You will cry for entirely different reasons by the end of the episode. Truly, B5 is a station of contrasts.
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Chevy Slyme posted:You will cry for entirely different reasons by the end of the episode. Truly, B5 is a station of contrasts. I haven't hit that due to IRL but rewatching the first half with folks and Delen and G'Kar are pouring drinks out of a bong 
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i love that poo poo in scifi lmao
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Secret to B5 budget was to get most of the background props from LA flea markets. That's an alien decander! 
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s03e09 - Point of No Return
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Powered Descent posted:s03e10 - Severed Dreams If you saw a giant hologram of Sheridan appear, would your first thought be "I bet he's using that big buried device on the planet below to do that?" More likely, it'd be more like "How the heck is he doing that" or "I didn't know the station had giant hologram projectors." Whereas firing the frankly not THAT effective missiles would be a pretty obvious give-away.
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Narsham posted:If you saw a giant hologram of Sheridan appear, would your first thought be "I bet he's using that big buried device on the planet below to do that?" More likely, it'd be more like "How the heck is he doing that" or "I didn't know the station had giant hologram projectors." Whereas firing the frankly not THAT effective missiles would be a pretty obvious give-away. Didn't the Great Machine whip out a giant beam cannon at some point too?
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Powered Descent posted:s03e09 - Point of No Return I think Zack was believable as the sort of dispossessed loser in a fairly high up position but would likely never get any further that fascism attracts, but he really never even tried putting on the appearance of the racism/xenophobia/slavish loyalty Earth-first thing that the rest of the Night Watch was all about. Not even a little. I get there's not very far you can go along that path and still come back, but it was still a bit of a weak performance of someone teetering on the brink and having already gone a little over. And it may seem a bit of a cheap trick, but in the military, there's a lot of importance on chain of command and regulations. If officers were already planning a coup but not ready to pull the trigger at that moment, doing a bit of bureaucratic stalling seems like a good trick to pull. It's also important to note that while fascists can fester and develop within a system, they always need to break the rules at some point to actually assert dictatorial authority.
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Polaron posted:Didn't the Great Machine whip out a giant beam cannon at some point too? Spoiler for Voice in the Wilderness, part 2 Yes, it fires once and destroys an alien ship. But that beam weapon takes 50 years to recharge.  Seriously, Draal makes clear the weapons are to defend the planet, and Sheridan makes the decision not to use the Great Machine's weapons to defend the station. It's unclear what their range is, anyway, so it's possible they're only effective against enemies entering the planet's atmosphere or on a close approach; the alien ship that gets blown up was approaching the planet and it's hard to judge distance precisely.
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ultrafilter posted:So now that you're halfway through, where do you think this is going? There are a LOT of long-term plots that need to get wrapped up one way or another. I'm certainly not expecting a storybook happy ending for all of it, but I do still think that most of it will end well. Of course, there's still a LONG way to go, with plenty of time for our protagonists to get dragged through the gates of Hell. I just don't expect those gates to slam shut on them. I'll go way out on a limb and make few actual predictions, both medium- and long-range. Note that I don't have much faith in any of these:
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Powered Descent posted:There are a LOT of long-term plots that need to get wrapped up one way or another. I'm certainly not expecting a storybook happy ending for all of it, but I do still think that most of it will end well. Of course, there's still a LONG way to go, with plenty of time for our protagonists to get dragged through the gates of Hell. I just don't expect those gates to slam shut on them. Always fun to see the mixed bag of very right and very wrong in these posts.
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Powered Descent posted:s03e11 - Ceremonies of Light and Dark Not necessarily blaming you for this, but the backup computer is voiced by Harlan Ellison, who was abrasive to say the least.
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