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tpink
Feb 18, 2013



Melman

Bifauxnen posted:

That's fair and I'm definitely still suspicious of cheese, hell even if tpink flips scum I got some weird vague gut feeling like it might be a bus

And now we are going from ďtpink is scum for sure!Ē to ďeven if tpink flips scum.Ē Come on.

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cheese sandwich
Feb 9, 2009



Hal Incandenza posted:

I guess my question for you is besides tpink avoiding being lunched what is your case on him as scum? There is some merit to what you are saying but thatís seems to be your only point against him, at least for the last few days. Posting-wise what about tpink has been scummy?

Bluntly it's largely a d1 hunch based on the behaviour of someone that piggybacked on other people that were defending them and otherwise lurking that supported itself through context basically through the rest of the game. I know someone's going to quote this and ignore the rest of the post but I'll still try to explain a bit;

So, on the first day looking back on the lunch before Cena came in and extended the day I only really remember the people in the team 2 group standing up for him compared to the feel in the thread but that being said it was still going to be a plurality lunch (I don't think it was more than 4 or 5 votes?) rather than a majority with the votes that were thrown down so it felt like there was always a vocal enthusiasm for a tpink lunch but apathy towards voting him. Which is part of why I find it egregious that he's escaped as many lunches as he has so far but people are still talking about it and agreeing

During the last day between merk & DGK I prodded tpink about playing both sides of the fence here with views that didn't feel consistent with each other which as far as I can tell he didn't respond to but instead showed up to defend cena because to suggest that they're scum together is too dumb.

This feels substantial to me because my main impression of the team 2 masonry is that they're making a town call on tpink, but it's always a town but. Like, they feel like he's town but he's not making any strong calls. Or they feel like he's town but he hasn't been active or responsive. Or he's town but somehow knows a lot about how scum function in this setup. I know this was explained by him apparently combing the OP flavour but that it was weird enough for Hal to bring up felt worth noting? Hal can correct me if he feels like I'm misrepresenting anything here?

Given that and that he keeps managing to dodge lunch I felt confident enough to call him out and I'm surprised at the response when as far as I can tell the main argument against me is that I was too reasonable wrt DGK & merk and is a position people are hanging onto after merk flipped town. And after merk came around on me after making that argument as well? We were getting along decently enough before he took off/got lunched and mostly shared the same reads aside from DGK

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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tpink posted:

And note that now we are shifting from “tpink is scum” to “we gotta see how tpink flips,” building in that caveat for a town flip.

Oh I still think you're prolly scum, more so now with your recent posts

Just thought a pause to reflect after the merk flip was due so cheese was in the forefront of my mind instead of you in the immediate wake of that.

Then everyone else stormed in all CHALLENGE TIME AGAIN LETS LUNCH TPINK AT LAST and I thought, well, ok fair enough

Then you had to show up all oh no why would BIF do this?!?! Lmao

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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tpink posted:

And now we are going from “tpink is scum for sure!” to “even if tpink flips scum.” Come on.

Yeah. Even if. If you flip scum the natural immediate thought would be that cheese is townie for pushing you. I'm saying that even if that's the case, I don't wanna actually clear cheese off it too soon

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Bif, I don't exactly get why you were most suspicious of cheese; stated in here and in masonry, but were almost going to put tpink to -1; wouldn't you want to go for your top pick.
I do sort of get that you were still suspicious of tpink, but they weren't your top choice.

I see nowhere in thread or masonry when tpink became your top choice over cheese until after tpink got on your case "for swapping".

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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tpink posted:

And note that now we are shifting from “tpink is scum” to “we gotta see how tpink flips,” building in that caveat for a town flip.

Birch you think I give a poo poo about needing to cover my rear end, you think anythings gonna look more mortifying than the merk flip, lol

cheese sandwich
Feb 9, 2009



Re the Cena extension - not being able to post for work is understandable. Between my post this morning and just now I was at work so I totally get that, but until the objection (after his move to strike) all he'd really contributed was this big summary post largely lacking content that mostly just assigns shade without taking any strong calls and concluding that he's okay with voting either of the vote leaders so forgive me for seeing that plea to contribute as performative

I felt stronger that Cena could be scum but decided to call out tpink this morning instead because A) he's managed to get out of three lunches (almost four) so far not really by any virtue of his own but due to apathy and game chaos and B) I felt like my cena read relied on tpink being scum to work

The second point I was thinking about while I was driving earlier and feels illogical thinking about it because both stand on their own really, I think it more just stems from how I approached my read on cena and that the first thing that comes to mind was the move to strike and wondering at the time whether it was a scum save or just game chaos.

tpink
Feb 18, 2013



Melman

Bifauxnen posted:

Oh I still think you're prolly scum, more so now with your recent posts

Just thought a pause to reflect after the merk flip was due so cheese was in the forefront of my mind instead of you in the immediate wake of that.

Then everyone else stormed in all CHALLENGE TIME AGAIN LETS LUNCH TPINK AT LAST and I thought, well, ok fair enough

Then you had to show up all oh no why would BIF do this?!?! Lmao

Yeah, I had to show up and defend myself from bad votes on me, what outrageous behavior! Itís the exact same bit you always do when you act incredulous like oh gosh why would someone push back on my case, must be scum! - going all the way back to D1 on me, and then on merk HARD in later days. Maybe it makes sense to you because you are just so convinced in your scum reads, but this bristling / dismissive (ďlmaoĒ!) reaction whenever anyone questions you is just...I donít get it. I said that itís inconsistent with your play for you to apparently change your mind on someone based on one post without saying a drat thing about it until after being called on it. I completely stand by that and you havenít addressed that.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Like, i would personally go for my first choice when the day is fresh and only go for the secondary choices if my first choice was precluded.

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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Amoeba102 posted:

Bif, I don't exactly get why you were most suspicious of cheese; stated in here and in masonry, but were almost going to put tpink to -1; wouldn't you want to go for your top pick.
I do sort of get that you were still suspicious of tpink, but they weren't your top choice.

I see nowhere in thread or masonry when tpink became your top choice over cheese until after tpink got on your case "for swapping".

Because as the vote rush was happening I thought it looked pretty inevitably decided. I might have felt more suspicious of Cheese right then, but I wasn't opposed to lunching tpink and sure as hell didn't want to actually fight in defense of him to try and turn that all around.

And you are correct, tpink did not become my top choice until then.

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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tpink posted:

Yeah, I had to show up and defend myself from bad votes on me, what outrageous behavior! It’s the exact same bit you always do when you act incredulous like oh gosh why would someone push back on my case, must be scum! - going all the way back to D1 on me, and then on merk HARD in later days. Maybe it makes sense to you because you are just so convinced in your scum reads, but this bristling / dismissive (“lmao”!) reaction whenever anyone questions you is just...I don’t get it. I said that it’s inconsistent with your play for you to apparently change your mind on someone based on one post without saying a drat thing about it until after being called on it. I completely stand by that and you haven’t addressed that.

I wasn't one of those bad votes on you though, buddy

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Fair enough, bif, for now.

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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Keep saying "changed your mind" some more

I said I was most suspicious of cheese but still suspicious of you, just thought it was worth more review since we got a big upset here

It suddenly appeared that I would not have this time for review, but I decided this wasn't such a bad thing. I said I'd be ok with your lunch and I did mean that, I only withheld my vote because just in case you were town, maybe, just maybe, you'd have some last reads to contribute

cheese sandwich
Feb 9, 2009



Squiggly posted:

If'n I'm bein' honest sir, yes indeed that there was exactly what made me decide you had ill intent

But you must have some sort a angels on watchin' over yous Mistuh tpink cause Mistuh Cena and Mistuh Voodoo made some interestin' points in your favor. It ain't the strongest read I evah had no sir but I'm inclined tah believe that the devil here is in that Mistuh Cheese an' not yoself

##unvote
##vote cheese


I already commented on this but I'm coming back to it hoping that if I do get lunched that people will revisit. Yesterday when people started calling me scum for acting too reasonably towards merk & dgk he disagreed with it calling me town but apparently now he's been swayed by cena and someone that said they voted for me not because they think I'm scum necessarily but because I was the one that initiated the day and for lack of a better option

It's really easy to skim over squiggs posts when it takes extra effort to sit and decipher what he's trying to say

Squiggly posted:

Ah thought that ah would be hittin' you with everythin' I got Mistuh Merk but ah do not get the bad feelin's that ah did earlier. When Mistuh Merk has been up ta no good he's always locked on ta somethin' an is very much an unreasonable fellaw

And ah do not blame Mistuh Cena fa that, he was listenin' to me bellow an haw at ya somethin' awful an based on aw chats outside I do not get tha sense that he is anythin' but a man a character

I feel like I am hemmin' and hawin'

Ah was set to try some a that fancy cheese everyone is recommendin', but ah do not get a sense that Mistuh Cheese is anythin' but a jokesta. That boy loves his laughs, an he seems like a little angel when he's been not tryin' hard

Squiggly @ Hal re Cheese after pressed on the last post posted:

Mah previous experiences with these fine fellas are nothin if not consistent with good people mah fine sir

Ah will say ah I am feelin' the constraints a bein' forced tah focus on only a few at a time an have not found mahself in thinkin' many a these people are anythin' but fine folk

I say this as someone that's faked PR's in the past and largely avoided judgement for it because people assumed it was mod imposed and got sick of trying to read my posts (The last time I did this I claimed to be Skwisgaar Skwigelf from Metalocalypse and I had a blast. I stopped it like halfway through the game when it got old and wasn't fun anymore and still won)

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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tpink posted:

Yeah, I had to show up and defend myself from bad votes on me, what outrageous behavior! It’s the exact same bit you always do when you act incredulous like oh gosh why would someone push back on my case, must be scum! - going all the way back to D1 on me, and then on merk HARD in later days. Maybe it makes sense to you because you are just so convinced in your scum reads, but this bristling / dismissive (“lmao”!) reaction whenever anyone questions you is just...I don’t get it. I said that it’s inconsistent with your play for you to apparently change your mind on someone based on one post without saying a drat thing about it until after being called on it. I completely stand by that and you haven’t addressed that.

Realtalk for a sec, sorry if the persona annoys you. I usually feel like I do need to dismiss questions that seem like they're coming from a bad faith scum place. Hell, look how merk read all my copious posts explaining exactly why I thought he was scum, which you said was tough to even read, and he still claimed I didn't even have a case.

Of course, some smack talk is always just plain fun too, but I often to feel like I can only be heard this way, when I go over the top.

But I don't think it is necessary to continue it right now.

cheese sandwich
Feb 9, 2009



cheese sandwich posted:

I say this as someone that's faked PR's in the past and largely avoided judgement for it because people assumed it was mod imposed and got sick of trying to read my posts (The last time I did this I claimed to be Skwisgaar Skwigelf from Metalocalypse and I had a blast. I stopped it like halfway through the game when it got old and wasn't fun anymore and still won)

Lol this isn't really relevant but thinking about this is making me think of a literature CYOR I was in a long time ago where I picked American Psycho, my role was an unlimited dayvig but in order to use it I had to write a convincing chapter for the novel in the post with the shot. Those were the days man

tpink
Feb 18, 2013



Melman

Bifauxnen posted:

Realtalk for a sec, sorry if the persona annoys you. I usually feel like I do need to dismiss questions that seem like they're coming from a bad faith scum place. Hell, look how merk read all my copious posts explaining exactly why I thought he was scum, which you said was tough to even read, and he still claimed I didn't even have a case.

Of course, some smack talk is always just plain fun too, but I often to feel like I can only be heard this way, when I go over the top.

But I don't think it is necessary to continue it right now.

Ok - thanks for that. I think there is just something about that type of posting that gets at me in a weird way, and itís a me issue not a you issue. Iíll set it aside for now because itís not game related and I can address it more after the game.

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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tpink posted:

Ok - thanks for that. I think there is just something about that type of posting that gets at me in a weird way, and it’s a me issue not a you issue. I’ll set it aside for now because it’s not game related and I can address it more after the game.

Well I can sure understand that, hey

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

cheers



I swear to loving god if tpink avoids a lunch again Iím going to be annoying going forward.

This is a repeat of day 1 where he RAPIDLY approaches being lunched and then for whatever reason, the brakes are hit. This last minute push to cheese feels scummy from Voodoo who just seems to be trying to follow the winds? Though Cena and Voodoo May have chatted in masonry

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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Still want a lowdown on the state of that masonry and y'all's reads on each other, btw

JOHN CENA
Oct 20, 2006


we're fairly active but i believe scum lurks in my team. unfair biases point me toward voodoofly but for reasons outside of voodooflys control so im trying to read voodoofly on their own merit before making an official judgment.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Check in, who's online?

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop


Votecount for Day 3

tpink (5): cheese sandwich, Voodoofly, DGK2000, Sandwolf, Squiggly, Voodoofly, Squiggly, Amoeba102, Bifauxnen
cheese sandwich (4): tpink, Hal Incandenza, JOHN CENA, Voodoofly, Squiggly, Voodoofly

Not Voting (1): Voodoofly

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is September 16th, 2020 at 1:32 p.m. BST -- that's in about 56 minutes.

You can only vote for:
- cheese sandwich
- tpink
- Hal Incandenza

NOTE
Remember that each team has two one-shot commands available (assuming they have not yet been used):

The team on the stand can call ##OBJECTION TEAM-n to switch with another team (team-n). This removes themselves from the stand and puts team-n in their place, resetting the 24 hour deadline.

Any team can call ##MOVETOSTRIKE to extend the deadline by 24 hours.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



All right then. I'm happy with this plurality so I'm going to bed.

Cloner of the Elks
Jul 2, 2006






Flip Incoming

Votecount for Day 3

tpink (5): cheese sandwich, Voodoofly, DGK2000, Sandwolf, Squiggly, Voodoofly, Squiggly, Amoeba102, Bifauxnen
cheese sandwich (4): tpink, Hal Incandenza, JOHN CENA, Voodoofly, Squiggly, Voodoofly

Not Voting (1): Voodoofly

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is September 16th, 2020 at 1:32 p.m. BST -- that's in about 0 minutes.

Cloner of the Elks
Jul 2, 2006




tpink, this court finds you GUILTY!

While the defendants watch as tpink is handcuffed and escorted away from the courtroom, a chilling statement is yelled.
"I did nuthin', you got the wrong guy! No blood on these hands, no evidence! He intimidated me, intimidated me! The heck is wrong with y'all?"

And the worrying thing? That's right - there was no evidence!
But tpink is not as clean as it might sound...


tpink, Dodgy Witness (1/2 Scum?!), has been jailed.

Mayor Cloner rises from his oversized mahogany chair, his voice booming.
"Well, you took someone down. Someone less than innnocent, but were they really guilty? Anyway, I'm counting on you to get the rest of these sour apples!"

His eyes shift and eyes each of you up. He keeps eye contact with a certain individual.
"You there!" He points to one of the defendants - sweat dripping from their forehead. Your demeanor seems different somehow... I'm not sure I like it."

Cloner of the Elks
Jul 2, 2006




It is now Day 4

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004



What on earth is a 1/2 scum?

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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Hal Incandenza posted:

What on earth is a 1/2 scum?

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

cheers



Hal Incandenza posted:

What on earth is a 1/2 scum?

I honestly thought it meant 1 of 2 scum dead, but

JOHN CENA
Oct 20, 2006


lmao what

JOHN CENA
Oct 20, 2006


is that a miller? third party? how can you be half guilty

JOHN CENA
Oct 20, 2006


JOHN CENA posted:

is that a miller? third party? how can you be half guilty

elk man confirming in our Masonry that he was full-on on Scum Team.


i have a heck of a lot of re-evaluating to do.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004



JOHN CENA posted:

elk man confirming in our Masonry that he was full-on on Scum Team.


i have a heck of a lot of re-evaluating to do.

Yeah, same here I guess. I once again am snookered by my desire to have my mason buds be town.

I guess this kind of makes me feel better about DGK, probably about cheese as well although he still was pretty meh about why he was voting tpink.

Bifauxnen
Aug 11, 2010

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The lions and the lambs ain't sleeping yet


Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah, same here I guess. I once again am snookered by my desire to have my mason buds be town.

I guess this kind of makes me feel better about DGK, probably about cheese as well although he still was pretty meh about why he was voting tpink.

Yeah after going back to properly reread D1, my vague "what if cheese is bussing" feeling has dried up cause he was on tpinks case quite early and it seemed serious. DGK also feels better since tpink was picking DGK as a target to try and shift to, picking on that "how could a mafia player as you possibly be serious about thinking that's a scumslip??" point feels just like how tpink would pick out weird angles of attack on me too.

As for you Hal, you're in a real middle ground here. I haven't seen any reason to feel you're especially townie, but nothing's stuck out as seeming insincere or bullshit either.

That leaves team three just full of potential scumbos! So let's

##calltostand Team 3

JOHN CENA
Oct 20, 2006


we were about to call ourselves up lol

Cloner of the Elks
Jul 2, 2006




Challenge issued!

Will Bifauxnen, JOHN CENA, Squiggly and Voodoofly please head to the stand

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop


Votecount for Day 4



Not Voting (9): Amoeba102, Bifauxnen, cheese sandwich, DGK2000, Hal Incandenza, JOHN CENA, Sandwolf, Squiggly, Voodoofly

With 9 alive, it's 5 votes to execute. The current deadline is September 17th, 2020 at 11:50 p.m. BST -- that's in about 23 hours, 36 minutes.

You can only vote for:
- Bifauxnen
- JOHN CENA
- Squiggly
- Voodoofly

NOTE
Remember that each team has two one-shot commands available (assuming they have not yet been used):

The team on the stand can call ##OBJECTION TEAM-n to switch with another team (team-n). This removes themselves from the stand and puts team-n in their place, resetting the 24 hour deadline.

Any team can call ##MOVETOSTRIKE to extend the deadline by 24 hours.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

cheers



JOHN CENA posted:

we were about to call ourselves up lol

go on..?

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Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



JOHN CENA posted:

we were about to call ourselves up lol

Aye. Elaborate. Who was talking about it your masonry, and why do you think its VF or squiggly?

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