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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i really liked The Surrounding Game - that one's about go and pro players the netflix one? i liked that too.
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infernal machines posted:when do you think johnny mnemonic came out? way before the matrix
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Nov 16, 2020 06:25
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fart simpson posted:this is maybe a weird nitpick but the thing that bothered me most about the chess show is how the main character never really has a coach or even people to practice with except for a couple extremely short periods of time. it's kinda implied she's read a bunch of books on her own off screen, but the show portrays her just as a unique genius who was able to become the best player in the world by pure talent & instinct. you never really get the impression she was studying or trying very hard, and all the players she ended up winning against were also talented & took the game seriously while she just got wasted all the time but it didnt matter because she was naturally so much better than everyone else. she sobered up like 1 day before her world championship match and that was enough to win the truth of it is boring A lot of times talent is just being good at figuring out what you need to do and then streamlining practice and memorization
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Nov 16, 2020 07:30
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the show seemed pretty clear that she spent a ton of time practicing and reading chess books and magazines, i guess you wanted a training montage tho anyway i don't give a poo poo about chess and found it compelling and satisfying, so ymmv
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Nov 16, 2020 07:52
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i guess i would have appreciated a training montage, yeah. i found it unbelievable that she never really had a coach, she was just doing it all on her own except for a small amount of help that she got right near the end
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Nov 16, 2020 07:59
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it was drugs also the history of weird chess savants was worth the price of admission
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Nov 16, 2020 08:01
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i fuckin love a good training montage, no lie
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Nov 16, 2020 08:14
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Nov 16, 2020 08:17
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the training montage for the queens gambit would be by kronos quartet
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Nov 16, 2020 08:18
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becoming a chess grandmaster so you can defeat death like in the movie and become immortal
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Nov 16, 2020 08:29
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wouldnt work because death presumably has access to an iphone with stockfish
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Nov 16, 2020 08:40
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just cheat at battleship it's not hard it's just embarrassing
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Nov 16, 2020 08:43
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:actually how do you get $30M and keanu reeves, take a very short story about a technical boy who goes lo-tek with a sawed off shotgun and go all oooh this is the matrix ooooh look at the cyber? have you seen new rose hotel chris walken and willem dafoe are the leads and it still manages to be a complete mess though i don't think gibson had a hand in the adaptation - it's just based on one of his short stories infernal machines posted:when do you think johnny mnemonic came out? lol do you remember the vhs for it
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Nov 16, 2020 09:09
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:have you seen new rose hotel that sounds like a lot talent to throw at something that never got my attention now i have to watch it
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The Posting Imam posted:i do not have netflix but i have basically analyzed this show thoroughly in the theater of my mind to bring you what i assume it is like
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Nov 16, 2020 12:28
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TOOT BOOT posted:the truth of it is boring yeah. the trope of the natural genius is stupid. I think it comes from people not seeing all the practice that goes into stuff. like with sports most people probably played some or they see or hear about practice all the time so they get it. but with nerd poo poo the practice goes on in a room somewhere that most people will never see so they can't comprehend that mental skills require the same amount of practice and discipline as physics ones.
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Nov 16, 2020 12:43
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lol. she made the best chess move
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Nov 16, 2020 12:44
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Shaggar posted:lol. she made the best chess move
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Shaggar posted:yeah. the trope of the natural genius is stupid. I think it comes from people not seeing all the practice that goes into stuff. like with sports most people probably played some or they see or hear about practice all the time so they get it. but with nerd poo poo the practice goes on in a room somewhere that most people will never see so they can't comprehend that mental skills require the same amount of practice and discipline as physics ones. yeah. would they make a movie about golf where the main character was just naturally the best player in the world despite being a drunk and not having a coach or training partners? i mean i guess they did but it’s an adam sandler comedy movie
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even then his character was a hockey player, so atleast theres some notion of physical training if not specifically for golf. if they were to make that movie in modern adam sandler times tho, it would definitely be just a drunk dude who walks on to the course at a tournament and hits a ball perfectly.
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the main point of happy gilmore is that golf is a dumb and bad sport e: if you make a movie about high-level chess though you absolutely should also spend a good fraction of the runtime making sure the audience know how stupidly important and monumentally boring opening theory is.
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Nov 16, 2020 13:44
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starcraft 2 is the good version of chess
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the main point of happy gilmore is that golf is a dumb and bad sport also one episode should have been literally 4 hours of two people sitting there in total silence thinking for 5-20 minutes between moves
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Nov 16, 2020 14:07
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:have you seen new rose hotel yes. new rose hotel was actually the comparison i was going to make re: complaints about cyberspace or whatever in johnny mnemonic BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:that sounds like a lot talent to throw at something that never got my attention you'll see why pretty quick. it's not "so bad it's good" it's just boring as hell
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Nov 16, 2020 14:51
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fart simpson posted:also one episode should have been literally 4 hours of two people sitting there in total silence thinking for 5-20 minutes between moves as someone who has watched each of the last 3 world championships... yeah okay that's accurate. if you don't have a good commentator it's pretty worthless. all too often the commentators are grandmasters themselves and are basically chatting amongst themselves but there's a guy 'chessnetwork' that is amazing and i highly recommend, especially for the championship commentary. he streams on twitch
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Nov 16, 2020 14:52
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lol and from then on, she was truly the playerest of games
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Nov 16, 2020 14:53
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lord funk posted:as someone who has watched each of the last 3 world championships... yeah okay that's accurate. if you don't have a good commentator it's pretty worthless. all too often the commentators are grandmasters themselves and are basically chatting amongst themselves and for maximum realism, that 4 hour game should end in a draw
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fart simpson posted:and for maximum realism, that 4 hour game should end in a draw
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the dragonball z of sports shows
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Jabor posted:the dragonball z of sports shows episode 253: Kasparov screams for 20 minutes before unleashing his caro-kann
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Wife: "Hey season 2 of that weird ferret show starts tonight."
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will ferret?
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having not seen it I'm declaring that the netflix chess show is an anime
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Wife: "Hey season 2 of that weird ferret show starts tonight." oh, nice! we forgot about the last episode and finished the series a few months late, so this is good timing. we also have to start/finish (for me) lovecraft country so thisll be good to mix in so we dont get too binge-y with things again
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Shaggar posted:lol. she made the best chess move
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Nov 16, 2020 18:10
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Wife: "Hey season 2 of that weird ferret show starts tonight." the show you just keep waiting for it to fail get to the good part! you had nicole kidman daniel craig and sam elliot last time
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:the show you just keep waiting for it to fail still lolling that they left the movie with no resolution but at least avoided the literally on a cliff cliffhanger ending of the first book. its so much setup for the other two books, so hopefully we can get into the story now
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Nov 16, 2020 19:30
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Wife: "Hey season 2 of that weird ferret show starts tonight." time to fire up the hbo subscription again glad this is getting a decent adaptation after the dumpster fire of a movie
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Oneiros posted:glad this is getting a decent adaptation after the dumpster fire of a movie
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Oneiros posted:time to fire up the hbo subscription again 
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