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Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Platystemon posted:

It’s not that they’re stupid.

It’s that they’d rather have a fascist than a social democrat.

Kinda hard to test that when there aren't any social democrats to vote for.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Look man Harpoon scenario flavor text isn’t going to write itself.

Was not expecting to see a Harpoon reference this morning and I am pleased by the surprise.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Was not expecting to see a Harpoon reference this morning and I am pleased by the surprise.

:)

This is also the first time I’ve gotten a bite on a Harpoon reference, so I am equally pleased.

CMANO may be the King now, but sinking commie boomers and sending B-52’s and others out on a STRIKE mission in Harpoon will never not be a ton of fun. I’m very happy I picked up that complete collection a few years ago of the classic and sequels.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Fister Roboto posted:

Kinda hard to test that when there aren't any social democrats to vote for.

Don't tell them that, they won't believe it.

ZombieApostate
Mar 13, 2011
Sorry, I didn't read your post.

I'm too busy replying to what I wish you said

:allears:

Mustang posted:

I can't see how people that turn out for a fascist in droves would one day decide to start voting for a progressive.

:thunk: Hmm, yes, that's exactly what I was suggesting.

Platystemon posted:

It’s not that they’re stupid.

It’s that they’d rather have a fascist than a social democrat.

I would consider this a sign of stupidity.

SquirrelyPSU posted:

Don't tell them that, they won't believe it.

There were at least a few up for reelection in the House and they won.

Burning Beard
Nov 21, 2008

Choking on bits of fallen bread crumbs
Oh, this burning beard, I have come undone
It's just as I've feared. I have, I have come undone
Bugger dumb the last of academe

MazelTovCocktail posted:

:)

This is also the first time I’ve gotten a bite on a Harpoon reference, so I am equally pleased.

CMANO may be the King now, but sinking commie boomers and sending B-52’s and others out on a STRIKE mission in Harpoon will never not be a ton of fun. I’m very happy I picked up that complete collection a few years ago of the classic and sequels.

I am actually connected with Larry Bond on Facebook and him and a bunch of other old school game designers are shockingly cool people with progressive political opinions. It's pretty refreshing to see people who built your childhood not be total chuds.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Burning Beard posted:

I am actually connected with Larry Bond on Facebook and him and a bunch of other old school game designers are shockingly cool people with progressive political opinions. It's pretty refreshing to see people who built your childhood not be total chuds.

Holy poo poo that’s cool. Actually I randomly game across Norm Koger on Facebook in a war games group...and I fanboyed it. lol

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Holy poo poo that’s cool. Actually I randomly game across Norm Koger on Facebook in a war games group...and I fanboyed it. lol

This is cute af lol

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 30 days!
https://twitter.com/shaqbrewster/status/132402522177133772

Looks like Biden won Wisconsin. Not out of the woods yet, though.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

RFC2324 posted:

This is cute af lol

Haha yeah I was like OMG you made Age of Rifles (still never bested for smaller 19th century conflict) and TOAW!


In other news
https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1324027785178980352?s=21

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Soylent Pudding posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mviser/status/1323988214819000320

Also since it came up in thread. If I wanted to explore japanese whiskey and had ~$50 to drop what should I check out.

Hatozaki.

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008

The trenches of IT can scar a muppet for life

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Haha yeah I was like OMG you made Age of Rifles (still never bested for smaller 19th century conflict) and TOAW!


In other news
https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1324027785178980352?s=21

Honestly I think that is a good call by Twitter.
Although his message is nice to see.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Burning Beard posted:

I am actually connected with Larry Bond on Facebook and him and a bunch of other old school game designers are shockingly cool people with progressive political opinions. It's pretty refreshing to see people who built your childhood not be total chuds.

Goony child me was thrilled to meet Harry Turtledove at a book reading and he was super nice and answered questions about the space lizards. Also glad to see his twitter is progressive.

In the early 90s a cousin wrote to Bill Watterson and got a personalized response on beautiful color stationary of Calvin & Hobbes riding a wagon down a hill. Was so jealous.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Wisconsin is done done. It's over.

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1324026497536004098?s=19

Nevada's probably fine

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1324024174390603776?s=19

Michigan has Biden in the lead with still a ton of liberal city absentees to go

https://twitter.com/HeidiNBC/status/1324027465761697793?s=19

---BIDEN WINS HERE---

Georgia's loving close

https://twitter.com/wccubbison/status/1324029113292775427?s=19

Pennsylvania is trending good

https://twitter.com/julianrouth/status/1324030815769120768?s=19

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

This is all very good, but let’s be blunt and honest, we’re having to recount and litigation city now.... where recounts and litigation are state of the art.

Burning Beard
Nov 21, 2008

Choking on bits of fallen bread crumbs
Oh, this burning beard, I have come undone
It's just as I've feared. I have, I have come undone
Bugger dumb the last of academe

MazelTovCocktail posted:

Haha yeah I was like OMG you made Age of Rifles (still never bested for smaller 19th century conflict) and TOAW!


In other news
https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1324027785178980352?s=21

I am glad someone else remembered that game. I spent hours upon hours with the scenario editor re-creating Isandhlwana. I found it on one of those abandon ware sites and it holds up far better than many games of the era. I may even use it to teach ROTC cadets about the Battle of The Little Bighorn.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

This kind of thing is legitimately unhealthy to do to yourself and you should stop.

The longer term predictions are still up in the air but short term? Pretty spot on. A Republican Senate will have McConnel beaming his smug smile while he grinds the country to an absolute halt to cause as much suffering and death as possible to blame on a Democratic president.

Again.

He can just straight up say no, to EVERYTHING, again, and let the country burn/flood/die to covid/starve/be evicted while the judiciary guts and flays the country for him to serve up on a platter to his billionaires.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

MazelTovCocktail posted:

This is all very good, but let’s be blunt and honest, we’re having to recount and litigation city now.... where recounts and litigation are state of the art.

Even Republicans are like "ehhh, a WI recount isn't going to do anything". Better to go into a recount up than down.

Only other potential hang-up is that Arizona's outstanding vote totals are still a touch of a mystery.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
The other option is for Dems being in charge of everything and getting blamed for raising taxes, spending money, economy crashing, COVID lockdowns and causing a GOP wave in 22 or 24.

Not that I don't want that cause it would be better but I don't know by how much.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I think/hope that Trump not having a clear enough lead on election night has derailed any plan to meaningfully contest the results. It’d be a different story if we saw a Trump blowout yesterday that got eroded by mail-in counts.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Burning Beard posted:

I am glad someone else remembered that game. I spent hours upon hours with the scenario editor re-creating Isandhlwana. I found it on one of those abandon ware sites and it holds up far better than many games of the era. I may even use it to teach ROTC cadets about the Battle of The Little Bighorn.

Anyone play Close Combat: A Bridge Too Far? Still my favorite WWII game, incredibly tense fights and one of the first times I played a game that had decent realism. Educational to see how British PIATs barely worked while nearly every German unit could wreck armor with panzerfausts. Thrilling when your anti-tank unit is down to their last rocket and takes out a King Tiger then the AI instantly concedes the map. Also was cool to see the morale system where five wounded guys who just bailed out of a tank are only interested in running away and will ignore orders to charge a house with their knives.

Was also fun to poke around the huge amount of video files. In a pre-YouTube era it was cool to see footage of Stuart tanks cruising down roads.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


we re-elected a social democrat here in sf, and passed his propositions to make ten thousands
units of social housing funded by a tax on property sales valued over ten million :shobon:

the most striking thing to me about last night was how surprised i was that anyone was surprised about Florida.

e: had a cup of coffee and realized i had added a zero, bluh

Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Nov 4, 2020

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


In the last 10 years I've lived in two of the possible swing states this election. So I've been bombarded by calls and text messages for three different states. My personal phone still has an Atlanta area code and gently caress me if control of the senate depends on the GA runoff in January.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Fallom posted:

I think/hope that Trump not having a clear enough lead on election night has derailed any plan to meaningfully contest the results. It’d be a different story if we saw a Trump blowout yesterday that got eroded by mail-in counts.

This small Biden lead is what I kept seeing people predict as the worst case, because it allows Trump to scream that the election was stolen and that his second amendment followers need to do something about it. A blowout would have been best, and a Trump win would be bad long term, but short term a narrow Biden victory might be the worst

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Nap Ghost
Americans continue to favor policies that are left of who they vote for as well as left of what
people who are in office think Americans support.

https://twitter.com/amanbatheja/status/1323978358343032834?s=21

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Burning Beard posted:

I am glad someone else remembered that game. I spent hours upon hours with the scenario editor re-creating Isandhlwana. I found it on one of those abandon ware sites and it holds up far better than many games of the era. I may even use it to teach ROTC cadets about the Battle of The Little Bighorn.

That's fantastic. About the the only issue I have is a can't sound to work on dosbox, but much like Steel Panthers II it's so good (also in small wars* and Nato/Pact) that any defects are worth getting past. I still have the original discs for the main game and expansion. See if you can find one of the community scenario packs that used to be on the Yahoo group, stuffed to the gills. I can see how it would be a great way to teach aspects of battles. I just loved all the obscure battles and hypothetical ones that engine could spit out. Hell yeah I shelled and took forts in Korea as the US!

*Even fake ones with lore based on Red Dawn!

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this
Apparently there were some people that actually voted for Kanye. Why... Just why?

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

RFC2324 posted:

This small Biden lead is what I kept seeing people predict as the worst case, because it allows Trump to scream that the election was stolen and that his second amendment followers need to do something about it. A blowout would have been best, and a Trump win would be bad long term, but short term a narrow Biden victory might be the worst

I think this may be offset somewhat by the Dejoy bullshit.

It's hard to claim the election was stolen when it's coming out that your side cheated and still hosed it all up.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

RFC2324 posted:

This small Biden lead is what I kept seeing people predict as the worst case, because it allows Trump to scream that the election was stolen and that his second amendment followers need to do something about it. A blowout would have been best, and a Trump win would be bad long term, but short term a narrow Biden victory might be the worst

People predict lots of things. I saw a lot of people saying Trump would claim victory at the first sign of his lead and stop vote counting immediately. The first part kind of happened, but fizzled. Then he tried to claim that the additional vote counts were irregular, but that’s fizzling too because they’re not out of line with any demographic trends.

Trump could still try something, but we’re not getting the big Election Day drama that goons and right wingers were counting on.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

NPR's deep confusion at the failure of meritocracy is delicious to listen to right now

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

As Nero Danced posted:

Apparently there were some people that actually voted for Kanye. Why... Just why?

Freebie for 10 years of use for being able to say: "I'm not racist I voted for Ye!"

the yellow dart
Jul 19, 2004

King of rings, armlocks, hugs, and our hearts

mlmp08 posted:

Americans continue to favor policies that are left of who they vote for as well as left of what
people who are in office think Americans support.

https://twitter.com/amanbatheja/status/1323978358343032834?s=21

:psyduck:

What the gently caress is wrong with people? Also, I eagerly await FL's legislature and governor "clarifying" that the minimum wage is now $1.50 because voters were not asked about where the decimal point should be :smug:

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

not caring here posted:

I think this may be offset somewhat by the Dejoy bullshit.

It's hard to claim the election was stolen when it's coming out that your side cheated and still hosed it all up.

You assume his followers know and care. He has already spun then on him cheating being a good thing(see the whole but during 2016 about him smugly saying he doesn't pay taxes because of loopholes, and it just means hess smart)

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Trump picked up more Republican votes than in 2016. The Lincoln Project was a loving scam and everyone who fell for it is a 100% grade A sucker.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Fister Roboto posted:

Trump picked up more Republican votes than in 2016. The Lincoln Project was a loving scam and everyone who fell for it is a 100% grade A sucker.

Not compared to people who gave 100 million to unseat Mitch.

Even the AOC money was just a 1/10th of that.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009
Oh, good Nebraska voted to remove an exemption that allowed for slavery to be a just and legal punish for criminal actions.


Slavery was on the ballot in 2020 in Nebraska.

It only got 68% approval...

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this
I'm going to make a prediction as to what Trump's concession speech will be. "Even though I won the election last night, they found ballots that swung the election in a few key states to Joe Biden. Lot of people are saying I got cheated. But I will be the bigger man and I will accept these results but I am announcing my candidacy for 2024."

E: ^^ was the Nebraska territory even part of the confederacy?

As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Nov 4, 2020

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Trump is never ever ever going to concede.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

RFC2324 posted:

You assume his followers know and care. He has already spun then on him cheating being a good thing(see the whole but during 2016 about him smugly saying he doesn't pay taxes because of loopholes, and it just means hess smart)

True, but I get the feeling the hardcore nut jobs overt actions and fed or starved by those around them. And when no one is really getting excited, they lose momentum.

And really I think a lot of people that voted for him are probably at least a little thankful that the rollercoaster is nearly over.

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Suicide Watch
Sep 8, 2009

Fister Roboto posted:

Trump picked up more Republican votes than in 2016. The Lincoln Project was a loving scam and everyone who fell for it is a 100% grade A sucker.


MazelTovCocktail posted:

Not compared to people who gave 100 million to unseat Mitch.

Even the AOC money was just a 1/10th of that.

Both were scams, but the real problem is the high turnout from all the nonvoting chuds that Trump encouraged to vote

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