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Flikken posted:Rachel Maddow was reporting it Yeah I take MSNBC with a grain of salt, just because afaik it does lean left, so I'm just curious if CNN, ABC etc pick it up * If I were to take Fox at all it would be with a whole salt block, but I don't
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Lord Awkward posted:Yeah I take MSNBC with a grain of salt, just because afaik it does lean left, so I'm just curious if CNN, ABC etc pick it up Maddow shows excerpts of the email. Plays audio of Daniels and her attorney on the phone with Trumps attorney. Not sure what else you’re gonna get outside of a court room.
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the real question is if any other networks will cover it; msnbc doing it is fine, but they're small compared to cnn and others i wonder if this will have any impact whatsoever on the previous hush money case considering, well, here we go again
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Zamujasa posted:the real question is if any other networks will cover it; msnbc doing it is fine, but they're small compared to cnn and others Playing that before the judge sentences him might ummm push things towards maximums
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That Works posted:Maddow shows excerpts of the email. Plays audio of Daniels and her attorney on the phone with Trumps attorney. Not sure what else you’re gonna get outside of a court room. Thanks, and fair enough, I was getting ready for work and just saw the Rolling Stone article, haven't had a chance to see the Maddow bit yet
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Flikken posted:Playing that before the judge sentences him might ummm push things towards maximums I'd like this to be true. Not a lawyer but would this even matter in that regard? AFAIK the crime was covering up how Daniels was paid and where the money came from, not that it's illegal to pay someone to sign an NDA where there wasn't a crime being covered up. Honestly would love to hear a lawyer's take on this one.
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That Works posted:I'd like this to be true. Not a lawyer but would this even matter in that regard? I thought there was an election related charge in there
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Flikken posted:I thought there was an election related charge in there Wasn't it coming from campaign funds? In this one its Daniels paying legal costs to Trump over the other case she lost iirc and Trumps team is basically giving a discount if she will agree to not discuss Trump in public. Not sure if that ties back into campaign money somehow or not.
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IIRC the crime was falsifying business records (to obfuscate the source of the money), and what made it into a felony was that it was being done in furtherance of another crime (election interference/undeclared campaign contribution). But this latest hush money thing is for a completely different case so I don't think that would factor in to any judgment on the felony case, especially at this point after the trial already found him guilty.
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That Works posted:Wasn't it coming from campaign funds? quote:What prosecutors needed to prove was that Trump falsified the records in order to further another crime — in this case, violating the New York election law that makes it a crime for “any two or more persons [to] conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.”
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Donnie's dipshit spokesman tried to spin the Daniels thing as part of the Iranian hack when NBC's team got email confirmations from... Daniels's lawyer https://x.com/NBCPolitics/status/1846900305834672180?t=qQOPE_oBpipU8PtOkFEc2A&s=19 quote:In a statement to MSNBC, Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung falsely asserted that the documents Maddow referenced “were attained as part of an illegal, foreign hacking attack against President Trump and his team.” Another case where if Donnie wins, it's despite of his campaign. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Oct 17, 2024 |
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facialimpediment posted:So, ignore all polls from basically now until the election. They're all going to say the same thing and polls can't judge when margins are slim. Is it cynical to believe the networks and media want the race to be close to draw eyeballs and ratings?
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After Trump thoroughly embarrassed Maddow about his tax returns in 2017, MSNBC should’ve gotten another messenger for this story.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Is it cynical to believe the networks and media want the race to be close to draw eyeballs and ratings? No, but neither is it useful.
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facialimpediment posted:Donnie's dipshit spokesman tried to spin the Daniels thing as part of the Iranian hack when NBC's team got email confirmations from... Daniels's lawyer well there we go. every time I see a quote from Cheung, it's just absolutely rabid, like the guy is either 500% onboard with Trump or has learned exactly how to fake it/what Trump wants from a spokesperson (being an rear end in a top hat apparently?)
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Lord Awkward posted:well there we go. I can't remember if I've said it here before, but I would be astonished if he doesn't regularly mock Cheung's name in a racist accent.
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If I understand catholicism correctly, Daniels has suffered enough to qualify for sainthood now right?
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:If I understand catholicism correctly, Daniels has suffered enough to qualify for sainthood now right? Someone should submit Monica Lewinsky’s name. She was the OG of this sort of scandal.
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Quackles posted:Someone should submit Monica Lewinsky’s name. She was the OG of this sort of scandal. Yeah Lewinsky had it worse because she wasn’t a “pro”. Extra stigma in her life from that bullshit.
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https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1846935004669956607?t=Cyt4Yby02MAlSLjAmWbaUw&s=19Crab Dad posted:Yeah Lewinsky had it worse because she wasn’t a “pro”. Extra stigma in her life from that bullshit. She also didn't have the "advantage" of her president having a stable of followers whose reaction to what their POTUS got into was "Niiiiice." and "I wish I could do that!"
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I am sure the MSM will give Trump canceling stuff the same attention they gave Joe Brandon losing his mind ... I'm being told that is not remotely possible
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orange juche posted:If trump gets elected they'll 25th him and put Vance on top, it's their way to detach maga from its leader and retain their base after all the sunk cost of getting him there? lmbo ya ok
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ded posted:after all the sunk cost of getting him there? lmbo ya ok I mean I guess it doesn't matter if he's making GBS threads his diap and drooling as they hand him the next discriminatory law to sign
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Nick Soapdish posted:I am sure the MSM will give Trump canceling stuff the same attention they gave Joe Brandon losing his mind ... I'm being told that is not remotely possible The trouble is that he's still showing up once or twice a day in something, then botching it, or the news orgs get sidetracked into debunking crazy poo poo that happened days before: https://x.com/Hadas_Gold/status/1846659332139549057?t=Q-mEELUrQMbrmAHnNiZZfA&s=19 https://x.com/GarrettHaake/status/1846965026248126961?t=-2vy9j7XForA9QOCtKOTBw&s=19 https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1846897011859067325?t=357iL3TdUdoqA4z0YZgRQQ&s=19
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orange juche posted:I mean I guess it doesn't matter if he's making GBS threads his diap and drooling as they hand him the next discriminatory law to sign its what they did the first time he was there why change now
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facialimpediment posted:https://x.com/Hadas_Gold/status/1846659332139549057?t=Q-mEELUrQMbrmAHnNiZZfA&s=19 This kind of seems like critiquing Fox for not disclosing that the panel was breathing oxygen or that it occurred on a day ending in "y". Did Fox ever imply anything to the contrary? Was anyone not expecting it to be a carefully curated hugbox for Trump?
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Wingnut Ninja posted:This kind of seems like critiquing Fox for not disclosing that the panel was breathing oxygen or that it occurred on a day ending in "y". Did Fox ever imply anything to the contrary? Was anyone not expecting it to be a carefully curated hugbox for Trump? Mostly lies by omission, but even lies by omission throughout. Like taking a question from "undecided voter Kelly" and Kelly was like a state GOP chair or some poo poo. And for content: have a chuckle at how tiny the fundraising bump was when donnie got shot - even his voters didn't care https://x.com/jsscppr/status/1846685804892176854 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Oct 17, 2024 |
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facialimpediment posted:Mostly lies by omission, but even lies by omission throughout. Like taking a question from "undecided voter Kelly" and Kelly was like a stage GOP chair or some poo poo. Maybe his constant fund raising has finally tapped his base out.
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https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1846966863961772090Flikken posted:Maybe his constant fund raising has finally tapped his base out. "I mean...I could donate $999 to his campaign...OR...I could buy a Trump Brand WatchTM."
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Flikken posted:Maybe his constant fund raising has finally tapped his base out. I wonder how many of his small dollar donors have no more money remaining. There was that article a few years back about how they made it super difficult to stop ongoing donations & can’t imagine that’s improved.
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jesus loving christ that's the best political counter-heckle I've ever heard https://x.com/AynRandPaulRyan/status/1847029063921422787?t=Ef8hirXAADS_jdQx3ae5Yg&s=19
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facialimpediment posted:jesus loving christ that's the best political counter-heckle I've ever heard https://youtu.be/XkYZFoW5NK8?si=4wKA8IeAaUk0s4_K This is still my all time favorite heckler clap back by a politician
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Totally forgot about Barry's SOTU. Also, tomorrow the Special Counsel's J6 Appendix comes out, over donnie's legally-weak objection. https://x.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1847064246884135142
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CBJSprague24 posted:When did people start suggesting that if Trump wins, Vance will immediately invoke the 25th Amendment and overthrow him to cement a MAGA state? There is no MAGA without Trump, Vance is too spineless.
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CBJSprague24 posted:When did people start suggesting that if Trump wins, Vance will immediately invoke the 25th Amendment and overthrow him to cement a MAGA state? In my echo-chamber social group, right after the VP debate. Vance is scary because he's Peter Thiel's daytime familiar, except he's GOOD at talking and not sounding insane. Vance is the one to be afraid of. Trump's dementia-brain is honestly a better outcome as president than Vance's almost-literal-vampire overlords getting a muppet president who welcomes their hands up his rear end.
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Donnie is full of poo poo with a cheddarbrain that has deteriorated into cheeze whiz that's been out too long. JD Vance is just full of poo poo. Donnie is amoral because he doesn't know what morals are. JD is amoral because he knows what morals are and decided they're for cucks. Functionally, JD would be more effective at being a terrible president because he has a higher expected competency level for making the evil happen. Donnie's so blisteringly incompetent that all the evil he wants to do gets jammed in a door for a few months before he can implement it (a lot like his scandals). Republicans really, really want Trumpism without the Trump, which is not a thing, but JD could get closer to their overall Bannonian vision. But neither of them can tell jokes, loving hell. https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1847095249694241120
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Tiny posted:In my echo-chamber social group, right after the VP debate. Yeah Democrats are way too dismissive of Vance’s talent as a politician. He’s not a once‐in‐a‐generation great, but I would say that he’s in the top decile of sitting senators and governors.
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Platystemon posted:Yeah Democrats are way too dismissive of Vance’s talent as a politician. He’s not a once‐in‐a‐generation great, but I would say that he’s in the top decile of sitting senators and governors. Not really, he's just a chameleon zone-flooder. He has the ability to rhetorically shift between hard-right wingnut chud and slightly-creepy Republican normie Senator. He's below replacement-level and ran way behind DeWine (governor) in Ohio: 62-37 to 53-47. His approval ratings still suck even after the debate when he chameleoned into "nice person" instead of "gently caress you and your cats at home I hope I get to revoke your right to vote". We're just all grading him on a curve against Donnie, since JD can at least string sentences and coherent thoughts together and will say yes to ANY loving speech / interview / Q&A. He's just everywhere. And he can answer adversarial questions from the media without dissolving into an overgrown toddler. Edit: or maybe he's just not loving old, it really just could be that facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Oct 18, 2024 |
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