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Midjack posted:More races should try that, I don't think I've been excited about voting for somebody since a friend's dad was running for state legislature in the 90s but I've voted against a whole bunch of shitstains in the last quarter century and I'm pretty resigned to never actually being happy about any of the names I see on a ballot for the rest of my life. To be fair, a lot of Republicans have been excited to vote for Trump these last few elections. This is the first election I've heard some people at work not be that enthusiastic about him. But before you get your hopes up, they wish they could vote for Vance instead.
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Zamujasa posted:at least some speculation was that the push for biden was because the alternative being floated was a blitz primary, and from there it follows that with little time to do fundraising or anything it would fall down to whoever the richest decided to fund Something that really gets missed in a lot of public left/right/leftist american discourse is that the dems are very much the party of black women. Black voters in general, but black women above all are the most loyal and involved dem demographic. While it would have been incredibly stupid to try to skip over Harris, at the same time she is very much conventionally qualified, already on the ticket, already vetted, and holy poo poo the dems really do owe it to black women to give them their shot and full backing. My strong suspicion is that Harris's position as Biden's successor was a lot less in question than it seemed. Hell, Clyburn is no idiot and surely knew when he preconditioned his ultimately crucial support during the 2020 primary on the already 77-year-old Biden selecting a black woman as a running mate that that was almost certainly going to be the next presidential candidate. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Oct 22, 2024 |
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Good point, it helps that 2024 Harris seems far more effective than 2020 primary Harris. Today she was at events in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania and I don't think there's any way Biden could be close to that travel schedule especially for a sustained period of weeks.
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Cugel the Clever posted:I remain perplexed that his main proponents after that disaster were folks nominally on the left. While I sorta get the more level-headed Bernie and AOC position that he was better for labor than any alternative, the loud screeching from some segments of the online left that it was all a "donor coup" that must be vehemently rejected was bizarre. the online left (and right) exist on loud screeching yeah sure there's some audience for nuanced 18-tweet polisci wonk threads but do you really want the 10 people in that demographic following you? there's far more clout and grift potential in going after the thousands who will follow and blindly retweet a good substance-free hot take
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Good point, it helps that 2024 Harris seems far more effective than 2020 primary Harris. Today she was at events in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania and I don't think there's any way Biden could be close to that travel schedule especially for a sustained period of weeks. Yeah, that's definitely true and all y'all were right after what I posted earlier. I'm more making the "what if donnie was covered like Biden" argument. Probably 100% true that not a single one of his current voters would care, but the dude can't even finish a sentence without wandering off on a tangent anymore. Biden couldn't finish sentences without stuttering/old. But yeah, clearly ended up with a drastically better candidate, tbd if it's enough of course. Way better a coinflip than the pure blowout it was on the way to being! Edit: for some content, a good CNN article this morning: https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/22/politics/kamala-harris-campaign-final-weeks/index.html Ignore the headline and the first few paragraphs and you get the Kamala campaign's strategy and view of the final few weeks. From that, I'm optimistic because they're clearly going all-gas-no-brakes, they don't sound so self-assured like Hillary's data people were in 2016, they're all scarred by it, and they don't strike me as the complete lunatics like Donnie's campaign folks are. Also, some comments in there as to why they're not striking back on the stupid transads. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Oct 22, 2024 |
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facialimpediment posted:btw olivia nuzzi got canned for proverbially loving rfk jr So when's she slated to appear on Fox?
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99pct of germs posted:So when's she slated to appear on Fox? "We would like to welcome Olivia as our new senior reporter of The Free Press! Her tenacity to chase the story the mainstream media doesn't want you to know about has no bounds." - Bari Weiss
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facialimpediment posted:"We would like to welcome Olivia as our new senior reporter of The Free Press! Her tenacity to chase the story the mainstream media doesn't want you to know about has no bounds." - Bari Weiss “Thanks Bari. Our first story tonight: Kamala Harris, did she sleep her way to the top?”
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facialimpediment posted:"We would like to welcome Olivia as our new senior reporter of The Free Press! Her tenacity to chase the story the mainstream media doesn't want you to know about has no bounds." - Bari Weiss boop the snoot posted:“Thanks Bari. Our first story tonight: Kamala Harris, did she sleep her way to the top?” What did we say about using the Lathe?
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Punished Ape posted:Before Biden stepped down I really felt like the Democrats were determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It was a huge relief to get Harris. the same people who drove Joe's campaign and popularity to historically bad numbers are still driving and Kamala is palling around with Liz Cheney chasing voters who dont exist
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Proud Christian Mom posted:the same people who drove Joe's campaign and popularity to historically bad numbers are still driving and Kamala is palling around with Liz Cheney chasing voters who dont exist “Feeling relief? Allow me to try and steamroll your mental health because relief is not allowed!”
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boop the snoot posted:“Feeling relief? Allow me to try and steamroll your mental health because relief is not allowed!” Tone of the troll aside edit: which is basically just this  one of the first things Kamala did was bring in a bunch of her own people and folks from the Obama campaigns that weren't hosed in the head. And also telling the old fucks to pound sand about the whole we're not going back theme. And really, really hitting abortion hard in normie-terms instead of lefty-terms. Speaking of which: https://x.com/JeremySWallace/status/1848722240658903494 To me, notable that Allred will be attending. Kamala's folks are mentioning that she's mostly going for the abortion focus and a podcast recording, versus actually winning the state. Way more interesting than Donnie's trips to CA/NY though. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Oct 22, 2024 |
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facialimpediment posted:Tone of the troll aside edit: which is basically just this That’s good, pre-Biden debate I read an article about his similarly elderly inner circle & how they were getting him prepped & advised. Then he had one of the worst debates in the history of western rhetoric, so glad Harris seems to have enough sense to use her own team.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:That’s good, pre-Biden debate I read an article about his similarly elderly inner circle & how they were getting him prepped & advised. Then he had one of the worst debates in the history of western rhetoric, so glad Harris seems to have enough sense to use her own team. Like a month later we got "they're eating the pets!", but one party cares much more about the cognitive functioning of their candidate.
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spoke too soon, we're hosed, embracing the cringe for the youth vote too much, donnie's going to win https://x.com/GenePark/status/1848748442366980163 (actually this is very good and a decent antidote to the "democrats always take their base for granted" stuff) Edit: and forgot to post that Jon Stewart gave Walz the Cheney Question: https://x.com/TheDailyShow/status/1848542440677863923 Walz: "we're not going to take their foreign policy decisions and discussions you know and implement those" Stewart: ".... promise?" facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Oct 22, 2024 |
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online lefties: wtf kamala even made walz less fun this sucks democrats suck Walz: https://x.com/Acyn/status/1848811523394965628 edit: not improv, posted to @KamalaHQ too
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Well, that's the greatest clip of this election. He's about to get banned from Twitter for sure.
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facialimpediment posted:online lefties: wtf kamala even made walz less fun this sucks democrats suck The GOP is salivating over the opportunity to say Walz is senile not getting  .
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Lol, Walz continues to own. Anyways, I'm not surprised by this https://x.com/JonLemire/status/1848816599261974930
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not caring here posted:Well, that's the greatest clip of this election. The other context was getting at Elon's motive: spending millions to get billions on the backend by regulating his regulators and Donnie outright promising corruption. Also attacking Donnie for cosplaying a McDonalds worker misjudging the date of Halloween. If the media won't give Donnie the Dukakis helmet, give them the incentive. Handsome Ralph posted:Anyways, I'm not surprised by this Been somewhat surprised that Kelly / Mattis / Milley haven't been directly in ads yet. Guessing it's because it's a bridge too far for them or the campaign / PACs have decided the quotes were enough.
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quote:"I need the kind of generals that Hitler had,” Trump said in a private conversation in the White House, according to two people who heard him say this. Trump may wanna do a bit more reading on the history of the relationship between the Wehrmacht generals and Hitler.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Lol, Walz continues to own. Truly a man of the people. I can can see why blue collar white men love this guy so much.
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facialimpediment posted:Been somewhat surprised that Kelly / Mattis / Milley haven't been directly in ads yet. Guessing it's because it's a bridge too far for them or the campaign / PACs have decided the quotes were enough. I wouldn't expect to see Mattis or Kelly making any kind of ads anytime soon, but I would not be surprised if Miley did something at some point.
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psydude posted:Trump may wanna do a bit more reading on the history of the relationship between the Wehrmacht generals and Hitler. Is he also planning on getting the same table with the heavily built leg that Hitler had?
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Handsome Ralph posted:I wouldn't expect to see Mattis or Kelly making any kind of ads anytime soon, but I would not be surprised if Miley did something at some point. Miley's apparently scared of getting called back to Active Duty and court-martialed for treason because Donnie has a hard-on for him. I believe he mentioned a while back he'd be fine with it, but not so much for his family. Edit: and a point Dave Weigel made - note that all the treason / danger to democracy poo poo bypassed the media scolding becasue Kamala's Republican tokens pushed the issues instead of Democrats post-assassination attempts facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Oct 22, 2024 |
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fknlo posted:I have zero actual evidence, but you won't convince me that the pollsters aren't all skewing the polls in Trump's favor after their misses the past 2 elections. It could be as tight as it seems but I just don't believe it. I will absolutely not be surprised when Trump wins this time though. We've done it once, we'll do it again. I know this is a page back, but I just read something similar along these lines https://bad-faith-times.ghost.io/you-are-being-manipulated-by-bad-faith-pollsters/ Basically if you only look at legitimate pollsters it looks good for Harris, but in the last few weeks Trumps gone up 4 points without doing anything of consequence to bolster that sort of swing, and potentially outright done things that should have it being pushed the other way.
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walz calling musk a dipshit hurt his ego pretty bad  re: polling and poo poo, even my old home state's jon ralston is being a bit doomy about it, but like i dunno, either harris pulls it off and the massive enthusiasm everyone is seeing is a good sign, or none of it matters because america just has enough horrible people in it that a racist cheesebrained felon can win against "giving meals to kids in schools is good", and at that point the nation is just hosed basically i am ignoring every single poll until the biggest poll of all
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Croccers posted:.. edit: gently caress that, I made it better (It plays, with music.) (He’s feuding with the director because he got C&D’d.)
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Zamujasa posted:walz calling musk a dipshit hurt his ego pretty bad Oh poo poo, he used the crying laughing emoji. He's the maddest the most divorced man in the world could possibly be.
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literally haven't seen anyone use that emoji in the wild in like 5 yearsfacialimpediment posted:Edit: and a point Dave Weigel made - note that all the treason / danger to democracy poo poo bypassed the media scolding becasue Kamala's Republican tokens pushed the issues instead of Democrats post-assassination attempts dems should 100% continue to push it to because who gives a gently caress about the nyt and fox crying crocodile tears about it. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Oct 22, 2024 |
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Aileen Cannon is on Trump's short list for attorney general if he wins. This whole country is precariously close to burning down because one overweight billionaire who may not be alive in 5 years had his feelings hurt because the American people fired him.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Aileen Cannon is on Trump's short list for attorney general if he wins. I think his first term did irreparable damage to the country. I don’t think we make it out of a second. It’ll be true believers and loyalists top to bottom after the dipshits like Elon that think they’ll have some pull or get to actually run things get run out. He’s gonna do all of the things he’s saying he’ll do and that’ll be that.
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fknlo posted:I think his first term did irreparable damage to the country. I don’t think we make it out of a second. It’ll be true believers and loyalists top to bottom after the dipshits like Elon that think they’ll have some pull or get to actually run things get run out. He’s gonna do all of the things he’s saying he’ll do and that’ll be that. The thought of trump winning does seriously scare me, I just try not to even think about polls or whatever poo poo and just hope that Kamala can pull it off, hopefully convincingly enough that we don't have to wait days for a result.
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Zamujasa posted:
Some polls are held for charity, and some for fancy dress But when they're held for pleasure, they're the polls that I like best MY POLLS ARE ALWAYS BOUNCING to the left and to the right It's my belief that my big polls should be held every night I'VE GOT BIG POLLS, OH I'VE GOT BIG POLLS THEY'RE SUCH BIG POLLS, THEY'RE DIRTY BIG POLLS And he's got big polls, and she's got big polls BUT WE'VE GOT THE BIGGEST POLLS OF THEM ALL
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fknlo posted:I think his first term did irreparable damage to the country. I don’t think we make it out of a second. It’ll be true believers and loyalists top to bottom after the dipshits like Elon that think they’ll have some pull or get to actually run things get run out. He’s gonna do all of the things he’s saying he’ll do and that’ll be that. SKIPPING dipshits. SKIPPING dipshits like Elon.
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Looks to the Moon posted:Some polls are held for charity, and some for fancy dress now that's rockin the vote 
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psydude posted:Trump may wanna do a bit more reading on the history of the relationship between the Wehrmacht generals and Hitler. So he accidentally told the truth 
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I'm calling it. Surprise! https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/22/...ce=articleShare As Election Nears, Kelly Warns Trump Would Rule Like a Dictator John Kelly, the Trump White House’s longest-serving chief of staff, said that he believed that Donald Trump met the definition of a fascist. https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1848897469645558142 https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1848903004960780553 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Oct 23, 2024 |
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Looks to the Moon posted:Some polls are held for charity, and some for fancy dress McNally can we make an entire post a thread title
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