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pantslesswithwolves
Oct 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

CBJSprague24 posted:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1850691581726323042

"I ain't sayin' we're gonna gently caress with the election...but I ain't not sayin' it either..."

If he’s outright saying that the plan is to gently caress with the sanctity of the vote enough so that there’s no clear winner and the House of Representatives has to decide the election, then we’d be at a point in this country’s history where discussing possible outcomes and reactions is going to be enough to earn Jeffrey a visit from the Secret Service- for real this time.

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Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

sheee-it man, yeah, it's all falling into place: if it weren't for those mimosa-drinking liberals we on the left would be regarded with the gravity we deserve

I'ma stop by my neighborhood brunch spot next Saturday and start screaming, "this is all your fault! I demand to be taken seriously!"

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Cugel the Clever posted:

sheee-it man, yeah, it's all falling into place: if it weren't for those mimosa-drinking liberals we on the left would be regarded with the gravity we deserve

I'ma stop by my neighborhood brunch spot next Saturday and start screaming, "this is all your fault! I demand to be taken seriously!"

I hate it when artists take a political stance. They should stay home and work on interpretive dances and poetry slams.

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA

Ronwayne posted:

Thank you! I appreciate all the advice. Been trying to get the disability from SSI but its taken 5 years and three entire cases (1st denial, second denial, denial by judge two times each, working on my third 1st denial, which now takes a year). So much stuff is gated behind being social security disability. I have no 'official' documentation from the govt saying I'm disabled, my folks bullying me through college and to stay at jobs i hated and could no longer do for so long was ruled by the judge as evidence of functionality, and i could work as a 'hand packager or part time photocopier machine operator'. I think there's a way to get it without SSI disability but not sure how.

[...]

*I've been told to 'hang in there' by assorted caseworkers and that the process might take as long as a decade now, :shepface:

It's a tough situation, and I'm sorry to hear that you've faced so much rejection before. If there's any bright side to that, it's that your backpay sounds like it's going to be huuuuuge, so that may make you more tempting a client for a disability lawyer to take on.

The only advice I can offer without actually knowing too much about your case is that when you get a rejection notice + appeal offer, or a letter for a disability evaluation, if you happen to get scheduled to revisit the same evaluator or judge who rejected you before, you can appeal on that reason alone. The hope is that you can meet with those who can determine your case without any preconceived notions. Also, when you get to meet a new evaluator, absolutely talk about how you are on your worst times. It's natural to want to seem like a stable person in public, but this is the one time where you have to mention if depression/PTSD is turning you into a zombie who can't even take care of themselves, maintain a job, maintain a healthy sleep or hygiene routine, etc. Of course, be presentable during the meeting itself, but yeah.

Best of luck, duder. None of this is easy, but I hope for the best for you.

god please help me fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Oct 28, 2024

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Crab Dad posted:

I hate it when artists take a political stance. They should stay home and work on interpretive dances and poetry slams.

i hate it more when people take advice from celebrities. they can say whatever who cares. but base your life on what some famous person says? lol lmao

Vortex Street
Oct 23, 2010

I walked right out of the machinery
.

Vortex Street fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Nov 6, 2024

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gZeinnxWmA

Lincoln Project did a video prior to the whole Trump MSG rally and they pretty much called exactly what the rally was gonna be about, and then talked about the 1939 American Nazi Party rally at MSG. Also includes a seven minute video at the end called "A Night at The Garden" that is made up of footage from the 1939 rally, which honestly, is a loving surreal watch, 20,000 New Yorkers straight up wearing Nazi Party garb and wrapping themselves in the trappings of Americanism while doing the stiff armed Nazi salute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC1MNGFHR58

If you just want to see the "Night at The Garden" bit, here it is.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Oct 28, 2024

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

President
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Vortex Street posted:

And Zuck is shadowbanning their IG posts about it—Ricky Martin is calling it out on his IG stories.

tbh I never believe the shadowbanning stuff, but all the newsmedia sites caught his support, so all he needs to do is a dedicated post

Very difficult to describe the level of fuckup that rally was! It's getting to the point where if Kamala doesn't win, there really was no possible way for her to win and no set of campaign strategic/tactical decisions would've really mattered. Donnie's doing everything possible to blow it.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

goatsestretchgoals posted:

Lin Manuel Miranda and his friends at the lovely lib rags are why we on the left aren’t taken seriously.

True lefties work for a living, libs sit back in their trust fund houses and sip lattes.

I was going to make a joke post about how only the realistic depiction of the proletariat and the glorification of the socialist state can be considered true art but I'm just going to go with telling you to gently caress off with your "artists don't work for a living." You are the reason you aren't taken seriously.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL
My personal belief as a nebulously-definable leftist is that online leftism being a circular firing squad is the second most prominent reason leftism isn't taken seriously in 2024, closely following the reality that a lot of leftist thought is built upon direct action, discussion of which is actively stifled even in ostensibly left-leaning spaces out of fear of reprisal.

Meanwhile the far right can plot to overthrow democracy live on national television and no one bats a loving eye.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sausage.

Smellrose

Stultus Maximus posted:

I was going to make a joke post about how only the realistic depiction of the proletariat and the glorification of the socialist state can be considered true art but I'm just going to go with telling you to gently caress off with your "artists don't work for a living." You are the reason you aren't taken seriously.

I mean, while I broadly agree with you, gently caress Lin Manuel Miranda hard with a sharp object.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug
Pillbug

Kazinsal posted:

My personal belief as a nebulously-definable leftist is that online leftism being a circular firing squad is the second most prominent reason leftism isn't taken seriously in 2024, closely following the reality that a lot of leftist thought is built upon direct action, discussion of which is actively stifled even in ostensibly left-leaning spaces out of fear of reprisal.

Pretty much. Half the leftist spaces out there are gatekeeping what being a socialist is and start screaming about 'No True Leftist' crap.

Vortex Street
Oct 23, 2010

I walked right out of the machinery
.

Vortex Street fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Nov 6, 2024

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sausage.

Smellrose

Kazinsal posted:

My personal belief as a nebulously-definable leftist is that online leftism being a circular firing squad is the second most prominent reason leftism isn't taken seriously in 2024, closely following the reality that a lot of leftist thought is built upon direct action, discussion of which is actively stifled even in ostensibly left-leaning spaces out of fear of reprisal.

Ayup.

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

CommieGIR posted:

Pretty much. Half the leftist spaces out there are gatekeeping what being a socialist is and start screaming about 'No True Leftist' crap.

And this is different from the last 100 plus years of marxism how

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug
Pillbug

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

And this is different from the last 100 plus years of marxism how

Touche.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Wingnut Ninja posted:

"And we invited him to speak because
[   ] we are incompetent morons
[   ] we are lying"

I’m going with option two. It seems that “yelling racial slurs” has always been this guy’s act.
Warning: do not listen without headphones if anyone else is in the room:

https://x.com/pengdangcomedy/status/1392147842731499520

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

I would not remotely consider myself a leftist based on the behavior of the online breed, which appears to be to double down on abusing each other and internalizing whatever Discord and Twitter influence feed they're hooked to

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

gently caress Lin Manuel Miranda hard with a sharp object.
This, but for nothing more than creating The Ten Duel Commandments.

Tiny Timbs posted:

I would not remotely consider myself a leftist based on the behavior of the online breed, which appears to be to double down on abusing each other and internalizing whatever Discord and Twitter influence feed they're hooked to
The only thing a leftist hates more than a fascist is someone who is only 98% as left as they are.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
I probably fall more under the leftist definition if we aren’t basing our definition on gen-z twitter shitposting.

Libs, to me, are people like Nancy Pelosi. Everything they do is all performative and they just want their money, just like republicans. Except they pay a little more lip service to liberal platforms. They’re by and large loving useless.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

President
Matt Patricia Fan Club
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stealie72 posted:

The only thing a leftist hates more than a fascist is someone who is only 98% as left as they are.

Yeah, basically my frustration with "them" is right here:

https://x.com/ArmandDoma/status/1850647939083059582?t=I06_f9Pp1f662f6nPK7rTQ&s=19

Like great, you're ideologically pure and more correct than the rest of us. Cool. Now what are you doing to actually execute what you want inside the system we have instead of allowing fuckers to make it worse? Whole lot of single-issue voters loving themselves out of a seat at the table in the name of ideological purity.

sidebar: hey look, moscow found my posting

https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1850845859946131966?t=I2aoqvTwlBbTDAx18gy2PQ&s=19

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sausage.

Smellrose

Yes. loving yes. She understands.

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010

Kazinsal posted:

Meanwhile the far right can plot to overthrow democracy live on national television and no one bats a loving eye.

Speaking of, there's a few articles going around hiking up the anxiety levels of some dem friends about how the right wing militias are even more dangerous this go around.
My reassurances that most these groups are LARPing isn't working very well but I'm kinda working on old info. Is there anything new coming out that should change my stance?

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Blue Jackoffs are Rags west

hazardousmouse posted:

Speaking of, there's a few articles going around hiking up the anxiety levels of some dem friends about how the right wing militias are even more dangerous this go around.
My reassurances that most these groups are LARPing isn't working very well but I'm kinda working on old info. Is there anything new coming out that should change my stance?

I feel like this may trend alongside the seemingly lower enthusiasm for Trump this time around. I feel like people were more loud and proud about supporting him in 2020, whereas this year is more :effort:.

It also may help that they have no idea how to be discreet, so you'd figure most anything they were planning to do would be out in the open to some degree. Kind of like Trump's speech last night where he seems to signal they're going to try to gently caress with the election. (Plus, how many are paranoid they have feds embedded with them?)

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Cool so it seems someone decided to burn a couple ballot boxes in the middle of the night in Portland, the county clerk said that the last ballot pickup was essentially close of business Sunday night(around 8pm), and potentially hundreds of ballots were inside the boxes.

Levels of coolness increasing

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

orange juche posted:

Cool so it seems someone decided to burn a couple ballot boxes in the middle of the night in Portland, the county clerk said that the last ballot pickup was essentially close of business Sunday night(around 8pm), and potentially hundreds of ballots were inside the boxes.

Levels of coolness increasing
Must be those drat democrats voter frauding again.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Yes. loving yes. She understands.

Thank god.

Now what?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug
Pillbug

hazardousmouse posted:

Speaking of, there's a few articles going around hiking up the anxiety levels of some dem friends about how the right wing militias are even more dangerous this go around.
My reassurances that most these groups are LARPing isn't working very well but I'm kinda working on old info. Is there anything new coming out that should change my stance?

These same LARP'ers are the same ones who will absolutely run in fear if Cops/SWAT turns on them even if open carrying.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

President
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There was a box firebombing in Arizona but that one appears to have been a non-political lunatic: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/24/phoenix-mailbox-fire-ballots-voting

But this kind of thing also happened in 2020, so it's not particularly new: https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/ballot-box-fire-arson-vote-election/

A key bit of Donnie's post-election legal fuckery has two fatal flaws: a lot of it is knocked out by 2022 electoral act reforms and premised on the idea that the law doesn't exist. The other flaw is that they're basically in the open about it and trying to repeat novel poo poo from last time. Usually you only get one bite at the conspiracy apple before people notice and start developing countermeasures.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007

boop the snoot posted:

Thank god.

Now what?

Let's form a circle and yell 'Fight! Fight!'

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug
Pillbug

facialimpediment posted:

A key bit of Donnie's post-election legal fuckery has two fatal flaws: a lot of it is knocked out by 2022 electoral act reforms and premised on the idea that the law doesn't exist. The other flaw is that they're basically in the open about it and trying to repeat novel poo poo from last time. Usually you only get one bite at the conspiracy apple before people notice and start developing countermeasures.

The other thing is even conservative/Red State courts have largely told Donnie's lawyers to pound sand with their poo poo, so they have even less legal avenues to mess poo poo up this time around and less competent lawyers to do it with.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

hazardousmouse posted:

Speaking of, there's a few articles going around hiking up the anxiety levels of some dem friends about how the right wing militias are even more dangerous this go around.
My reassurances that most these groups are LARPing isn't working very well but I'm kinda working on old info. Is there anything new coming out that should change my stance?

Organized efforts like January 6th probably aren't going to happen before the election since the big boys in the organized violence space are jumping at shadows yelling "Glowie!" at each other every time something bigger than a Klan rally or a Nazi rally through the streets gets past the planning stage. Without the Stephen Millers and Hermann Goerings of a Trump administration in place they're not getting permission and support from the state apparatus so they need to keep stuff on the down low to avoid getting targeted. As long as Trump loses that will become the new normal.

Local Meal Team Six militias are probably going to be loving around with "watching the polls" while brandishing rifles for voter intimidation and poo poo like that since this is America, so we have a universal constant of cosmic white supremacist background radiation. The most likely thing to happen is more stochastic terrorism as one of our major political parties keeps pulling out the control rods on the white supremacist reactor, cranking up that radiation until someone in the space absorbs a lethal dose and goes off like a piece of popcorn with an AR-15. So probably a few polling stations or DNC headquarters or whatever become sites of spree killers looking for the pedophile vampire adrenochrome sacrificial altars or what the gently caress ever lights off their final synapse and gets them off the couch.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Just my own musings on it, but Trump seems to mostly keep them from exploding into violence on accident by supplying the hopium that courts will just usher him back into power. They never get that metaphorical, "the cuffs are on, this is real" moment.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

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TheKingslayer posted:

Just my own musings on it, but Trump seems to mostly keep them from exploding into violence on accident by supplying the hopium that courts will just usher him back into power. They never get that metaphorical, "the cuffs are on, this is real" moment.

I've always thought that January 6th happened because there was a clear target, sitting in one place, and they all thought they'd get away with attacking it because Donnie was still in power. If poo poo starts to get froggy at the counting facilities, I'd be willing to bet that Biden will be happy to send a whole lot of feds to sit outside on a moment's notice. And the municipalities won't be caught off-guard either.

I'll bring some of that up at my pollworker training tomorrow - like what if some fucko shows up after closing, what if a pollwatcher is a douchebag, etc.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



CBJSprague24 posted:

(Plus, how many are paranoid they have feds embedded with them?)

Feds that don't side with them, anyway. There was a doughy chump with a DMV-issued plate with a white power slogan on it who used to work at my site and more than one let's go brandon bumper sticker on other cars, and I've heard at least two badged federal bacon express wishes they could have been in the Capitol and not on the police side.

Spoggerific
May 28, 2009
October is almost over. Has anything happened that could be counted as an Official Surprise™? Trump holding an "everything but the salute" Nazi rally in homage to the 1939 one, I guess?

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

President
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Spoggerific posted:

October is almost over. Has anything happened that could be counted as an Official Surprise™? Trump holding an "everything but the salute" Nazi rally in homage to the 1939 one, I guess?

Donnie warps everything because he's basically a daily scandal factory. That's basically led to nearly-static polling since Kamala came in, even with all the poo poo that's happened.

I'd argue that the biggest October surprise was that there was no surprise. The closest nominee is when Donnie started yammering about "the enemy within". That singlehandedly brought back the fascist poo poo, which led to the Cheney / Republican tour, which led to Kelly calling him a fascist in a taped NYT interview, leading to yesterday's nazi rally, leading to some giant Puerto Rican endorsements. It's been a multi-week thing just because Donnie couldn't stop turning the insanity dial a few more notches.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Midjack posted:

Feds that don't side with them, anyway. There was a doughy chump with a DMV-issued plate with a white power slogan on it who used to work at my site and more than one let's go brandon bumper sticker on other cars, and I've heard at least two badged federal bacon express wishes they could have been in the Capitol and not on the police side.

Oh yeah a few months back a Spokane cop got fired for putting a let’s go Brandon sticker on his patrol car, probably didn’t help his case when he bragged about it at first then cowardly backtracked when facing discipline by claiming it was to support a sick kid named Brandon.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


orange juche posted:

Cool so it seems someone decided to burn a couple ballot boxes in the middle of the night in Portland, the county clerk said that the last ballot pickup was essentially close of business Sunday night(around 8pm), and potentially hundreds of ballots were inside the boxes.

Levels of coolness increasing

Apparently a few boxes across the river in Vancouver got burned, too. Definitely cool.

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facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

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Arrath posted:

Apparently a few boxes across the river in Vancouver got burned, too. Definitely cool.

Just one in Vancouver, one in Oregon. The fire supressant system worked in the Oregon box and it only spoiled three ballots, the one in Vancouver didn't work and hosed up hundreds.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/hundreds-ballots-destroyed-after-fires-set-ballot-drop-115226154

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