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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

DEER CRACKERS

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Haley as VP instead of Vance seems like she would have been a better choice, not as much of a weirdo & likely would have lessened his problems with women. Dunno if Vance brings in any voters who weren’t already supporting him.

Yeah but Trump didn’t want another Mike Pence.

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Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Platystemon posted:

Yeah but Trump didn’t want another Mike Pence.

Makes sense. Guessing trump will never speak to Vance again post election. Not out of spite, just indifference.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Anecdotally, I know someone who lives in the US Virgin Islands and she's told me that there's a fair bit of chatter down there about wanting to pursue statehood because some people there really want to have input on elections after this shitshow. She told me that among the people she knows, there's currently a sentiment of being afraid of living in terror of what the mainlanders might do in elections without any say by them, along with 'I'm sure the GOP would saw awful poo poo about us if they knew we existed.'

I have no idea if the Virgin Islands, or any other non-Puerto Rico territory, could actually plausibly attain statehood, but it's an interesting thought I'd never considered before.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
if he loses will the gop stop paying all of his legal bills? hmmm

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Cugel the Clever posted:

The folks behind Bluesky are pushing two main products: the social media app everyone who doesn't like the Nazi bird site knows and loves and the distributed, open-source protocol that only nerds are aware of or care about. Bluesky is just one access point to the protocol, such that the former's degradation or demise is theoretically meaningless as all the data can theoretically be hosted in a completely decentralized network that other apps can be created for.

Whether this pans out in practice remains to be seen, but it seems conceptually sound.

This sounds a lot like Mastodon. There's multiple examples where the platform and technology are less important than community and moderation for maintaining social media. Even Twitter is (mostly) functional after getting rid of 90% of the workforce, because most of the people they got rid of were the marketing people and moderators that actively drove company/celebrity engagement and created a palatable environment for them to attach their brand.

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

Cythereal posted:

Anecdotally, I know someone who lives in the US Virgin Islands and she's told me that there's a fair bit of chatter down there about wanting to pursue statehood because some people there really want to have input on elections after this shitshow. She told me that among the people she knows, there's currently a sentiment of being afraid of living in terror of what the mainlanders might do in elections without any say by them, along with 'I'm sure the GOP would saw awful poo poo about us if they knew we existed.'

I have no idea if the Virgin Islands, or any other non-Puerto Rico territory, could actually plausibly attain statehood, but it's an interesting thought I'd never considered before.

It's just an act of congress. Not more complicated then that.

MonkeyFit
May 13, 2009

ded posted:

if he loses will the gop stop paying all of his legal bills? hmmm

Considering he installed his own family at the head of the party, I doubt it. The only way he gets tossed by the party is if those in the party finally start releasing all the damning evidence they have on him while simultaneously claiming he pulled the wool over everyone's eyes.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Donnie's really sputtering at the end here and devolving into Spinal Tap. May not matter, but not ideal for him!

quote:

Trump, Sluggish and Aggrieved, Says He ‘Shouldn’t Have Left’ the White House

Donald Trump, who sought to overturn his loss of the 2020 election, also joked that he didn’t mind if reporters were shot.
-----
Donald Trump, coughing a bit and his voice sounding raspy, is so far sticking to the script at his airport rally in Kinston, N.C., a rural town in the eastern side of the state. Trump started about two hours late, and a steady stream of supporters have been exiting since he began speaking.

Donald Trump, who is in North Carolina, shouted out Dave McCormick, the Republican running for Senate in Pennsylvania. “We have great Republicans running, and you have one of the best of all right here, David McCormick,” Trump said. “You know that, where’s David, is he around someplace?” Then, he caught himself and added, “You know, we just left him. He’s great guy.”

https://x.com/LaleeIbssa/status/1853182504967995451

Donnie was 2 hours late, so people are leaving after like 5 minutes for some reason. Yeesh.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





facialimpediment posted:

Donnie's really sputtering at the end here and devolving into Spinal Tap. May not matter, but not ideal for him!

https://x.com/LaleeIbssa/status/1853182504967995451

Donnie was 2 hours late, so people are leaving after like 5 minutes for some reason. Yeesh.

kamala saying this to taunt him and then it coming true is the sweetest little thing

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

davecrazy posted:

It's just an act of congress. Not more complicated then that.

The complication is the Senate is institutionally biased towards smaller rural states, which have become overwhelmingly Republican over time. There's no real path to getting 60 votes to adding a reliably Democratic state, which would be any of the territories.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
https://twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1853195722864132590

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

This sounds a lot like Mastodon. There's multiple examples where the platform and technology are less important than community and moderation for maintaining social media. Even Twitter is (mostly) functional after getting rid of 90% of the workforce, because most of the people they got rid of were the marketing people and moderators that actively drove company/celebrity engagement and created a palatable environment for them to attach their brand.
Yeah, it's in the same space, but minus the UX hurdles that impeded broader adoption by normal folks. The dedicated Mastodon community is apparently salty about Bluesky taking off where they fizzled, exhibiting the classic, user-blaming "if you can't handle the bad UX that's on you" mindset.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

I hope all the potheads will remember this two days from now :v:

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

The complication is the Senate is institutionally biased towards smaller rural states, which have become overwhelmingly Republican over time. There's no real path to getting 60 votes to adding a reliably Democratic state, which would be any of the territories.

Well there is, but it would require winning the Senate and Chuck Schumer to not be a coward.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
Would they need 60 votes or just 50 + VP?

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

i've seen enough

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Grip it and rip it posted:

Would they need 60 votes or just 50 + VP?

If I'm not mistaken the filibuster rules apply to everything not classified as a budget law. Which means these days a senator just has to say they don't agree, they don't even need to have the commitment to pee their pants on c-span.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Nov 3, 2024

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If I'm not mistaken the filibuster rules apply to everything not classified as a budget law.

The filibuster is not in the Constitution. It can be gotten rid of at a whim by the Majority Leader.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

DEER CRACKERS

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If I'm not mistaken the filibuster rules apply to everything not classified as a budget law.

Also appointments

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

ded posted:

if he loses will the gop stop paying all of his legal bills? hmmm

Remember when Florida GOP tried to have the state pay his legal bills, and DeSantis said no?

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

:emptyquote:

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If I'm not mistaken the filibuster rules apply to everything not classified as a budget law. Which means these days a senator just has to say they don't agree, they don't even need to have the commitment to pee their pants on c-span.

I'm guessing this is just an advancement of the Biden regulatory decriminalization effort . One thing to decriminalize, another to legalize, and she's likely advancing a "I will push for full legalization in Congress" argument.

It's not really new, as she's said it before, like on All The Smoke. But a good reminder!

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

davecrazy posted:

The filibuster is not in the Constitution. It can be gotten rid of at a whim by the Majority Leader.

Right, the idea that has been rejected by the Senate to date. While every legacy Democratic senator is being driven out in states that are 60%+ Republican so the option is more off the table over time. It's not legally impossible to admit Puerto Rico and the other territories into the union, it just doesn't have political backing to make it happen.

facialimpediment posted:

I'm guessing this is just an advancement of the Biden regulatory decriminalization effort . One thing to decriminalize, another to legalize, and she's likely advancing a "I will push for full legalization in Congress" argument.

It's not really new, as she's said it before, like on All The Smoke. But a good reminder!

Marijuana legalization could be a regulatory thing once you get past federal law enforcement resistance. Adding new states can't avoid Congress.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Nov 3, 2024

pmchem
Jan 21, 2010
weed is one thing but this ad is better

https://x.com/olivier_patti/status/1852728872296751246

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Right, the idea that has been rejected by the Senate to date. While every legacy Democratic senator is being driven out in states that are 60%+ Republican so the option is more off the table over time. It's not legally impossible to admit Puerto Rico and the other territories into the union, it just doesn't have political backing to make it happen.

Will need to be done to codify Roe. And if the Democrats walk back THAT promise after winning a trifecta then gently caress 'em.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Watching football with sound off, saw ad with 9/11, D-Day, & I think a school shooting? Because you see: Harris.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Owns.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Dude’s phone said 4:20 so this is really a covert weed ad anyway

Wombot
Sep 11, 2001


She's apparently had this as a policy point for a while? I see people discussing it from 19 days ago. This is the first I'm seeing anything about it, so good idea to bubble it back up.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

DEER CRACKERS

Wombot posted:

She's apparently had this as a policy point for a while? I see people discussing it from 19 days ago. This is the first I'm seeing anything about it, so good idea to bubble it back up.

It was buried five bullet points deep, below stuff like “#protect Black entrepreneur crypto profits”.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Thank you, Johnny Hockey.

Cythereal posted:

Anecdotally, I know someone who lives in the US Virgin Islands and she's told me that there's a fair bit of chatter down there about wanting to pursue statehood because some people there really want to have input on elections after this shitshow. She told me that among the people she knows, there's currently a sentiment of being afraid of living in terror of what the mainlanders might do in elections without any say by them, along with 'I'm sure the GOP would saw awful poo poo about us if they knew we existed.'

I have no idea if the Virgin Islands, or any other non-Puerto Rico territory, could actually plausibly attain statehood, but it's an interesting thought I'd never considered before.

I feel like there have been votes several times in Puerto Rico regarding what the people think. We vacationed there when I was a kid and I remember the talk about it in the late 90s.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

davecrazy posted:

It's just an act of congress. Not more complicated then that.

It's complicated by them having about 6.6x less population than the smallest state.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

OddObserver posted:

It's complicated by them having about 6.6x less population than the smallest state.

Is this a joke or did you mean more?

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.



The population of Puerto Rico, as estimated in 2023, is 3.2 million.

The state with the lowest population, Wyoming, has around 584,000.

The physically smallest state, Rhode Island, has a population of 1.1 million.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Quackles posted:

The population of Puerto Rico, as estimated in 2023, is 3.2 million.

The state with the lowest population, Wyoming, has around 584,000.

The physically smallest state, Rhode Island, has a population of 1.1 million.

There are smaller ones, but if Wyoming and California can be states at the same time there's no argument against the Marianas Islands.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
And the context was me bringing up the US Virgin Islands, which have a population estimated at about 85,000.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Nap Ghost

Elviscat posted:

Is this a joke or did you mean more?

The population of the US Virgin Islands is less than 90,000 people.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
The Virgin Islands need to jump in with some other Island group methinks.

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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB
Easy peasy.
Two states.
One for the Caribbean and one for the pacific (other than Hawaii).

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