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Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL
I mean if Fox told me water was wet I'd be skeptical of their assessment of the nature of dihydrogen monoxide.

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davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

Mustang posted:

I hope Trump's tariffs loving annihilate the economies of his voter's smalltown shitholes. Would be well deserved, they need to be punished for the choices that they make.

It'll gently caress all of us.

When Steven Miller orders ICE to start rounding up anybody with a "Latino" last name and a green card poo poo will get sideways real quick in a lot of industries.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

I was thinking. If trump lost in a massive blue wave, nothing would change in the minds of his followers. If they win the office, senate, house, and he proceeds to destroy the country.. maybe then they will finally turn the page on him. The only way they will ever leave him is if they learn to hate him.

But yes Fox News paints everything in such a false light it is impossible to message to the GOP. That said, nobody watches CNN or MSNBC either.

I hate what this means for my daughter.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
I think we have two choices here:

1) a lot of us are hosed

2) all of us are hosed

Trump will make sure of the first, so it might as well be the second.

I think we have turned the corner and chosen our destiny with this one.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

I'm fortunate enough to be of a demographic and in a state that'll suffer the direct harms of Trump's reign the least, but I'm utterly aghast. I just can't fathom the profoundly warped reality that an apparent majority of voting Americans inhabit.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





i'm genuinely in disbelief that someone who attempted a coup was just re-elected

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

i'm genuinely in disbelief that someone who attempted a coup was just re-elected

easier than trying to defend against another coup I guess

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sausage.

Smellrose
As bad as this is I don't feel anywhere near the level of shock I did in 2016. Maybe I'm just emotionally burnt out.

Hopefully what Marx said about the second time being farce comes true.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
I've been playing Disco Elysium for the first time and sadly some of the quotes make me think of what we have in store for the future.

Not so much about communism obviously, but a general pessimism about achieving any progressive or leftwing goals.

quote:

YOU - Wait, first -- what's this communism even about?
RHETORIC - Failure. It's about failure.
YOU - Failure?
RHETORIC - Yes! Abject failure. Total, irreversible defeat on all fronts! Absolutely vanquished, beaten, curb-stomped and pissed on -- until you came along! You will reverse the fortunes of the workers of the world.
You alone, against every living thing, against every human alive: eight hundred trillion reál in the hands of an inpossibly well organized ruling class; towering city blocks of bank-men who have the ears of prime ministers; million-headed armies of nations and the love of your own mother!
You -- against the atom, the charm and the spin. Where the whole world failed -- matter failed to bend to human will; human will failed to get out of bed and tie its laces -- you alone, single-handedly, will rebuild the dreams of the working class. You are The Last Communist.
Now get to work, comrade.

quote:

0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a poo poo-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself sad. He is starting to suspect Kras Mazov hosed him over personally with his socio-economic theory. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

On a more optimistic note, the writing of the game lead me to this quote from Julius Fucik, who was killed by the Nazis.

quote:

You who survive these times must not forget. Forget neither the good nor the bad... I want this to be known: that there were no nameless heroes here; that they were people with names, faces, longings and hopes, and that the pain of the very last of them was no less than the pain of the very first... Man's duty does not end with this fight, for to be a man will continue to demand a heroic heart as long as mankind is not quite human.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

boop the snoot posted:

I think we have turned the corner and chosen our destiny with this one.

Everyone to the left of Mitt Romney (inclusive) in America has to decide, right now, whether they want to win loving elections or not. There is no one narrow group that will defeat Trump. Don't want to be part of a coalition with your posting enemies? Then you, too, have chosen this destiny.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL

Discussion Quorum posted:

Everyone to the left of Mitt Romney (inclusive) in America has to decide, right now, whether they want to win loving elections or not. There is no one narrow group that will defeat Trump. Don't want to be part of a coalition with your posting enemies? Then you, too, have chosen this destiny.

Clearly they decided not to. And the rest of the world will suffer for it.

psydude
Mar 31, 2008

PA called for Trump. That's a wrap.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Kazinsal posted:

Clearly they decided not to. And the rest of the world will suffer for it.
The problem is that millions of Americans are purely vibes-based marks hooked up to a stream of outrage porn.

I don't know how we get back from here. All the guard rails have failed. Maybe the suffering of the next four years will be enough to nudge the vibes back in the other direction. Maybe we won't have meaningful elections and the opposition party candidates will be arrested.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL
Biden has the opportunity to save us all from the next four to infinity years of this poo poo by popping some hot ones over Moscow.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
seems like Russia sending bomb threats to polling locations is bad, but I'm sure there is a good reason nothing can be done about it

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
lol. lmao. :suicide:

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL
Apparently most crisis hotlines are overloaded right now.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007

Cugel the Clever posted:

The problem is that millions of Americans are purely vibes-based marks hooked up to a stream of outrage porn.

I don't know how we get back from here. All the guard rails have failed. Maybe the suffering of the next four years will be enough to nudge the vibes back in the other direction. Maybe we won't have meaningful elections and the opposition party candidates will be arrested.

Celebrities. If you're correct about the electorate, mainstream america popular celebrities are the only ones who can win, and nothing matters but fame. Vibes.

Of course if you're wrong, and 50% of america is evil and likes genocides of not-them, well then. He won a second time.
The repercussions means the next 20 years are hosed and then we'll all be retirement age and the future will be for younger people. It won't be ours. We live now.

ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Nov 6, 2024

windshipper
Jun 19, 2006

Dr. Whet Faartz would like to know if this smells funny to you?
Give me back my time, my blood, my sweat, and my tears. Take away my PTSD. I do what I do because everything I was raised on, I was taught, I believe is to help those around me. You have the vision of the guy getting hit at 70MPH while trying to play frogger crossing the highway after you saved his girlfriend from his physical abuse. You have the vision of being first on scene to the 13 year old who intentionally hanged himself.

If hurting the right people instead of helping everyone is your goal, give me back the past 13 loving years of my life, and you loving have it instead.

windshipper
Jun 19, 2006

Dr. Whet Faartz would like to know if this smells funny to you?
The amount of anger, the betrayal of trust, the covenant I swore to my fellow man… Take all the loving sacrifices I have made. My fuckkng divorce, working EMS during the pandemic. loving burn it all and eat it you loving assholes.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sausage.

Smellrose

windshipper posted:

The amount of anger, the betrayal of trust, the covenant I swore to my fellow man… Take all the loving sacrifices I have made. My fuckkng divorce, working EMS during the pandemic. loving burn it all and eat it you loving assholes.

I mean yeah. At least take solace that your own hands are loving clean. You did nothing wrong.

That's how I'm coping at the moment. I did nothing wrong and while it didn't matter at least I feel good about my own choices.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
the people in this country are suckers that have been taken in by a con man, again. we deserve everything that comes next. buckle the gently caress up.

windshipper
Jun 19, 2006

Dr. Whet Faartz would like to know if this smells funny to you?

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I mean yeah. At least take solace that your own hands are loving clean. You did nothing wrong.

That's how I'm coping at the moment. I did nothing wrong and while it didn't matter at least I feel good about my own choices.

I understand what you’re saying. I appreciate its intentions. But, it rings real hollow right now to me. Especially because - all due respect, you haven’t served. I was never in the military, but my career is fire and EMS. Take that for what you will.

But we have all had our trust and faith in this country fractured tonight.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sausage.

Smellrose

ded posted:

the people in this country are suckers that have been taken in by a con man, again. we deserve everything that comes next. buckle the gently caress up.

"We" don't. They do.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

"We" don't. They do.

we all suffer together friend

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

Celebrities. If you're correct about the electorate, mainstream america popular celebrities are the only ones who can win, and nothing matters but fame. Vibes.
I'll agree to that hope.

I can't trust it though, given that many of the country's most intensely popular celebrities stood alongside Harris and she still is projected to lose the popular vote.

Like, maybe if Taylor Swift herself runs, but even there it looks like the American electorate is deeply misogynistic.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sausage.

Smellrose

ded posted:

we all suffer together friend

That's the problem, isn't it? :(

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL
Voting for Trump should be considering a diagnosis of some sort. Preferably the kind that prevents you from owning firearms, holding a drivers license, and voting in the future.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sausage.

Smellrose

windshipper posted:

I understand what you’re saying. I appreciate its intentions. But, it rings real hollow right now to me. Especially because - all due respect, you haven’t served. I was never in the military, but my career is fire and EMS. Take that for what you will.

Yeah I work for municipal government and pretty much my entire skillset is suited only to government jobs that I have no doubt will no longer exist soon. It rings pretty hollow to me too.

Work tomorrow is going to be lots of fun I tell you what

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

President
Matt Patricia Fan Club
Ann Arbor branch

Kazinsal posted:

Apparently most crisis hotlines are overloaded right now.

One thing the far-lefties have right is the need for mutual aid and poo poo like that.

I got an hour's sleep then woke up really hosed, like heavy yawning but heart racing stuff. Still kinda got it while writing, though more stable. So, I've commenced my social media purge of anything remotely political and I've stabilized a bit! I've always thought I've Sports Teamed politics too hard due to excessive empathy, as an on-edge of middle-aged white dude with an irreversible vasectomy and stable(ish) career it's not like I'm going to be directly hurt by this poo poo.


And so here's a story from 2016 that y'all could use. It was a day or two after Donnie obviously won and I was a similar mess to now, especially that my appetite died. I took my mom to the local monthly food truck rally with one of her friends just to be with people (I will be doing a lot of that soon!).

At that rally, everyone kept on keeping on. I particularly noticed a heavyset older woman, like in her 60s, walk by. She had a pink hoodie on, with hot pink hair, and clearly did not give a single gently caress about what anyone thought about her. It ruled. That was the start of snapping me out of the anxiety funk - why was I being a downer when the spirit of "gently caress you" still existed?

Similar thing happened after Biden's debate, as I knew where poo poo was headed without a change. This time, I invited her to a multiple-block food truck rally and saw similar stuff - lots of people having fun and not giving a gently caress about what was in my stupid whiteguy head.

What I guess I'm saying is that it's time to chuck the social media and stop by my mom's house... when I'm not a danger to others when driving :v: Sorry for the Cole-ish rant! Hug Monty for me.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

E. Revenant posted:

Fox new projects that HE wins Wisconsin. Harris 226 / HIM 277

I'm not really processing what I just typed.

dont you go tricking me into thinking HIM has won



itd be far preferable

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Kind of want to go clear out all of the soldiers from my social media since they're probably mostly chuds. Might get one wrong, but oh well.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL
Setting the over/under for "Canada gets invaded by the US for control of fresh water due to the rampant acceleration of climate change" at 2027.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
i'm honestly stunned. the usual liberals are already firing-squadding themselves on bluesky, but at the end of the day america overwhelmingly decided to re-elect a fascist.

what do you even do about that kind of rotten core? how do you solve a problem of "half the nation just openly thinks the other half should be subservient and also that anyone not a straight white male is lesser"?

gently caress, man. it was supposed to at least be close. how did we end up here again

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1s3kjLc0z8

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL
You know, I was thinking of doing DEF CON next year, and maybe either Twitchcon or SGDQ or something fun like that.

I genuinely am not sure if I'm ever going to be able to visit the United States again in my lifetime.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

President
Matt Patricia Fan Club
Ann Arbor branch

Zamujasa posted:

gently caress, man. it was supposed to at least be close. how did we end up here again

To some extent, it's a simplified Throw The Bums Out election without regards to the new bums. It's happening all over the world at the moment.

I mean hell, Britain hated where they were so much they put Labour into power :v:

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

disrespecting dead goons IRL
Next year's gonna be the same thing but putting the Conservative Party of Canada in power, because we've had a decade of "just go with the flow", and people HATED Trudeau irrationally even before he was elected because, among other things, his father made it okay to be gay.

If we make it to the 2120s, will there be a wave of fascism then as well? Because it's starting to feel like a 100-year cycle.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

As bad as this is I don't feel anywhere near the level of shock I did in 2016. Maybe I'm just emotionally burnt out.
I'm definitely at less of the visceral shock of 2016, but far greater dread. The things he has promised to do aren't "cut taxes and end regulations", they're "hunt non-whites and persecute political enemies."

It's all right out there in the open and the American people gobbled it up and we're still not taking him either literally or seriously, despite repeated demonstrations that we should.

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Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Kazinsal posted:

Next year's gonna be the same thing but putting the Conservative Party of Canada in power, because we've had a decade of "just go with the flow", and people HATED Trudeau irrationally even before he was elected because, among other things, his father made it okay to be gay.

If we make it to the 2120s, will there be a wave of fascism then as well? Because it's starting to feel like a 100-year cycle.

Future Prime Minister PeePee is on the record for being pro gay rights, anti conversion therapy, pro abortion and a bunch of other stuff. Sure he's a freeze peach, bitcoin humping, pro-Israel fucknut but I think it's a huge disservice to our neighbors down south to suggest our populist movement is going to be anywhere as ruinous as theirs.

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