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MonkeyFit posted:I'm honestly just hoping they don't repeal ACA or gut the nuclear regulatory commission. ACA and a national abortion ban will probably be two of the first things brought up. Old guard in the senate keeping the filibuster will be the only thing possibly stopping them.
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Lol the filibuster is done for. Trump doesn't give a poo poo if it blows up in the Republicans faces in 4 years and Mitch has no power anymore. Dems just wasted time with decorum nonsense.
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fknlo posted:ACA and a national abortion ban will probably be two of the first things brought up. Old guard in the senate keeping the filibuster will be the only thing possibly stopping them. I doubt it. Donny doesn't care the least bit about abortion. I'm guessing immigration crackdowns.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I doubt it. Donny doesn't care the least bit about abortion. I'm guessing immigration crackdowns. The people steering him around do.
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i'm changing my previous longstanding offer if you want to escape to nz you can and i'll put you up until you get sorted but you have to swear allegiance to me and the soon to be established caliphate and our grand supreme immortal dog-emperor 
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So far, I'm not detecting any downsides to this arrangement.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:i'm changing my previous longstanding offer These terms are acceptable.
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Kazinsal posted:The people steering him around do. yeah, the problem with trump isn't just that he's a lovely racist bigot idiot, it's that he's a useful idiot, and after 4 years of figuring out how to control their toddler, they now have control again and know they'll have it for at least four years and they have a bunch of bonus additions like the "official acts" bullshit, all the fraud and riots, all the voter suppression poo poo. it's going to come down to how much the dems can manage to stonewall and throw poo poo in the gears, and otherwise just run out the clock. if they keep everything lovely but survivable maybe we'll have another chance in 2028.
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It begins. https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1854260418094481806
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Zamujasa posted:yeah, the problem with trump isn't just that he's a lovely racist bigot idiot, it's that he's a useful idiot, and after 4 years of figuring out how to control their toddler, they now have control again and know they'll have it for at least four years
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How much of tariff stuff is under control of the executive? It does feel like the sort of thing that that's usually under the direct control so I suppose sabotage by business interests in the Senate isn't gonna stop it.
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Like what the gently caress else are you going to. Retails stocks took a deep dive today for good reason. 
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OddObserver posted:How much of tariff stuff is under control of the executive? It does feel like the sort of thing that that's usually under the direct control so I suppose sabotage by business interests in the Senate isn't gonna stop it. Tarriffs are essentially unilaterally under the control of the President.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I doubt it. Donny doesn't care the least bit about abortion. I'm guessing immigration crackdowns. He’ll sign it if it comes to his desk. If they get the house things are super hosed. I can’t imagine the senate keeps the filibuster around.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:i'm changing my previous longstanding offer Ok but only if Monty is guaranteed a place in is cabinet
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Tiny Timbs posted:Wage growth vs. cost growth is one area where Democrats were pissing on me and telling me it was raining. I surely believe that the average growth in wages exceeded the cost increase of groceries, insurance, and other essentials, but the average figure leaves a massive amount of people on the wrong side of that. My wages grew 2%, not 40%, so I earned less. My groceries didn’t rise only 20%, they rose 50%. Other assorted costs ballooned massively. I was directly told be people I told this to on the forums that I must be mistaken, that I must not have compared my costs to the actual wage growth that I lost under the couch somewhere. wages increased! but you'll only benefit from this if you switch jobs, because no employer these days would actually be so foolish as to grant a COLA raise
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Zamujasa posted:
Now watch the democrats complain about DECORUM while doing nothing, as a we slide into a 4th goddamned reich...
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One of the important things to remember about tariffs is that Donnie Goodbrains doesn't give half a sideways flying gently caress about what they do to other people. The only thing he, a malignant narcissist, knew about them is when he started stirring that pot last time he had people coming to his office to grovel and beg for exemptions. It fed him one million percent exactly what he wants, power and control over others. He's going to tariff the absolute gently caress out of EVERYTHING then spew whatever bullshit his honking swine will listen to to make them lap it up and target their pain at getting angrier at whatever out group they feel like hating. Behind the scenes Trump will be taking checks and blowjobs to hand out exemptions to whatever works best for him and the descent into corruption of the country will continue a million miles per hour faster than where we already are. Russian style oligarchy is the goal, because the guys at the top get what they want.
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Now watch the entire non-fash end of the spectrum get all caught up on how everyone else is failing to thwart fascism, but then just all shuffle their feet and wait for someone else to act. Then one starts to act and all the others dogpile them for failing to act in their own preferred way. And the fash just looks on smiling.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Now watch the entire non-fash end of the spectrum get all caught up on how everyone else is failing to thwart fascism, but then just all shuffle their feet and wait for someone else to act. Then one starts to act and all the others dogpile them for failing to act in their own preferred way. ugh
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maffew buildings posted:I'm just glad we have brave late night talk show hosts and the online liberals to keep up the assault of zingers on Donnie Drumpf and tweet about what legal trouble he's surely in when he's out of office, personally. Seth Meyers and Colbert, for some reason, are the ones I hate the most.
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maffew buildings posted:I'm just glad we have brave late night talk show hosts and the online liberals to keep up the assault of zingers on Donnie Drumpf and tweet about what legal trouble he's surely in when he's out of office, personally. I’ll check out of that stuff as much as possible. The day to day insanity was not good for me during his first term. It’s one of the reasons I started following the CE thread here. Way slower, way more sane, no f5ing nonstop and destroying my mental health. poo poo is gonna get bad, nothing is going to stop it, I’m going to take care of me and mine.
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maffew buildings posted:I'm just glad we have brave late night talk show hosts and the online liberals to keep up the assault of zingers on Donnie Drumpf and tweet about what legal trouble he's surely in when he's out of office, personally. Who watches that stuff? Literally never hear anyone talk about them here in the communist dystopia of Seattle. Is it just the handful of old liberals?
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yeah I have no idea who watches that stuff and this sucks so bad I can't even continue the bit. and as you guys know, I love bits. gently caress.
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It would be nice if, for every internecine snipe, we imposed a tax of detailing one concrete action taken to increase community resilience and coherence. Just kidding. Close the thread—
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Mustang posted:Who watches that stuff? Literally never hear anyone talk about them here in the communist dystopia of Seattle.
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the judge for the fraud charges has the opportunity to make this the most hilarious presidency ever behind bars. but he wont.
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important message https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWEpW6KOZDs
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facialimpediment posted:important message It is not impossible that we may be facing a future where disparaging The Leader becomes criminal.
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Mustang posted:Someone that's well educated or an expert on these issues is perceived as being condescending and talking down to the common folk if they share their knowledge. This has been a thing for what feels like ages. My brother in law is a physicist. His wife is a statistician. My other brother in law is a veterinary radiologist. I wouldn't dream of weaving into their lanes and telling them how they're actually wrong about the thing they went and got higher degrees for. But sure doesn't stop them from swerving into my lane, degrees in history and political science. Even basic factual poo poo, it's just "Hmm, nahhh. I think I know better." Hell, my BiLs wife decided to explain that my wife, a veterinarian, that she didn't know what she was talking about with regard to rabies. My wife has done MA course work in addition to her veterinary degree on rabies. My brother in laws wife has a MA in stats, and has "read things" on the internet. How the gently caress do you think that goes over with my wife? My IT background though? No one questions it. No one argues about it. No one tells me I'm wrong when I explain why the router Verizon gave them sucks rear end. They just trust what I'm saying/doing. It's unfuckingreal.
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facialimpediment posted:important message Oh so we can blame the NLG for failing to defeat fascism?
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Handsome Ralph posted:This has been a thing for what feels like ages. My brother in law is a physicist. His wife is a statistician. My other brother in law is a veterinary radiologist. I wouldn't dream of weaving into their lanes and telling them how they're actually wrong about the thing they went and got higher degrees for. But sure doesn't stop them from swerving into my lane, degrees in history and political science. Even basic factual poo poo, it's just "Hmm, nahhh. I think I know better." Turns out the internet does in fact make you stupid
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Guys I've cracked the code. 2016: VP Tim Kaine 2024: VP Tim Walz Never pick a VP named Tim no matter their qualities. Dunno if this applies to the top slot on the ticket though.
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