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How come everyone is saying the Senate being Republican-controlled is a forgone conclusion? I'm seeing it being at 47-47 right now, and if Biden wins Democrats only need to get two seats, right?
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Nov 5, 2020 19:18
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The VP is only a tie-breaker, so 50-50 is the minimum.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:20
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GoGoGadget posted:How come everyone is saying the Senate being Republican-controlled is a forgone conclusion? I'm seeing it being at 47-47 right now, and if Biden wins Democrats only need to get two seats, right? GOP is likely to pick up NC, Alaska. The 2 in Georgia will end up in a run off which the republicans will most likely win.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:21
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Rush Limbaugh is currently a bloo blooing on the radio perplexed as to why Biden is winning because he's boring. I can't believe I'm going to gloat about this because gently caress Cancer, but I'm well past tired of Trump's cult of personality continuing to spew "Biden is boring" as a valid reason to not vote for him/vote against him, so  if this result holds and Durr Fuhrer losing is the last election Rush lives to see.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:22
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Ossof has lost to Perdue twice at this point. If the libertarian vote goes entirely to him in the runoff he might have a chance but tribalism is going to work against that. Warnocks best chance is to win outright since the GOP vote is split. A runoff will make it a Dem v Republican choice and will be much harder to win. That's 2, I don't remember who the other ones are but I had set Dems taking two of them best case.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:23
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Also chances are good that should Trump lose the republicans in GA might be more likely to come out in largers numbers for the runoffs
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Nov 5, 2020 19:27
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GoGoGadget posted:How come everyone is saying the Senate being Republican-controlled is a forgone conclusion? I'm seeing it being at 47-47 right now, and if Biden wins Democrats only need to get two seats, right? 48-50 D-R headed into GA runoffs. Best bet is looking like an even* split. *with Manchin.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:27
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lightpole posted:Ossof has lost to Perdue twice at this point. If the libertarian vote goes entirely to him in the runoff he might have a chance but tribalism is going to work against that. Warnocks best chance is to win outright since the GOP vote is split. A runoff will make it a Dem v Republican choice and will be much harder to win. That's 2, I don't remember who the other ones are but I had set Dems taking two of them best case. On the other hand, Republicans benefited a LOT from Trump-boosted turnout. Will Republicans still turn out to hold the Senate majority, and will Democrats surge to vote against McConnell? It's hard to say.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:29
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Pretty sure it's academic at this point, but if it was a 50-50 split in the senate, who would be majority leader, the side with the VP?
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Nov 5, 2020 19:30
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Yup.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:31
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Notahippie posted:That's awesome, just on general principles I would've expected Sherman's family to do the decorum thing and downplay it. I love the idea that they're out there like "poo poo yeah great-granddad burned out the nest of traitors, he'd do it again if he was here today" Yeah, I was telling her that they should have Sherman statute in Savanah to commemorate Sherman’s Christmas Gifting of the city to Lincoln. Also worth reposting the final paragraph(cause I love it) of Sherman’s Farewell address. 
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Nov 5, 2020 19:46
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Acebuckeye13 posted:On the other hand, Republicans benefited a LOT from Trump-boosted turnout. Will Republicans still turn out to hold the Senate majority, and will Democrats surge to vote against McConnell? It's hard to say. There's too much uncertainty for me. Really wishing they had both just won outright.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:52
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lightpole posted:Ossof has lost to Perdue twice at this point. If the libertarian vote goes entirely to him in the runoff he might have a chance but tribalism is going to work against that. Warnocks best chance is to win outright since the GOP vote is split. A runoff will make it a Dem v Republican choice and will be much harder to win. That's 2, I don't remember who the other ones are but I had set Dems taking two of them best case. yea.. who ever pegged their hopes on Warnock winning outright just didn't pay attention to GA politics. The only reason Ossof and Perdue have as high of a percentage of the vote as they do is because the Democrats all threw their lots behind Osoff, and Perdue was running incumbent. The Democrats did not all throw their lots behind Warnock even though the entire DNC and GA-DNC pleaded with the other candidates to just sit the gently caress out and give their few percentage points in the hopes that warnock could maybe squeak over the 50.1% points. Although knowing that GA-Politics on both sides are corrupt as gently caress luckily I think this basically dooms matt liberman to never running for the party again.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:56
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Slim Pickens posted:I mean he was also big on dehumanizing the native americans and slaughtering all the bison in order to control them, but as long as the civil war memes make chuds mad I'll just keep ignoring that elephant in the room Hey he was also Anti-Semitic (as was Grant, but I truly believed he tried to change himself and repudiate his prior misdeeds, by his work as President for Jewish-Americans), but his good outweighs it and he just makes chuds lose their poo poo like few other things. Which is funny because he wasn’t a radical or even an abolitionist, he just really loved his country so much, unlike say a traitor like Lee. Sheridan, who helped give us national parks, has...some..issues too. I try and balance the good and bad and be honest about it, but for dunking on chuds like I was Joel Embiid, I’m okay with brevity.
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Nov 5, 2020 19:58
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Here in Virginia I always try and talk up General Thomas, the Rock of Chicamauga, victor of the battle of Nashville, and I believe the only Virginian general who remained loyal to the Union. Standing by his country even though his entire traitorous family disowned him to me is far more moral courage than Col. Lee ever showed. It's amazing how all the southern heritage types have never heard of one of the most successful Virginian generals during the civil war. He doesn't have the name recognition alas, but it is my dream for a Gen Thomas statue to replace Lee down in Richmond.
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Nov 5, 2020 20:11
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Soylent Pudding posted:Here in Virginia I always try and talk up General Thomas, the Rock of Chicamauga, victor of the battle of Nashville, and I believe the only Virginian general who remained loyal to the Union. Standing by his country even though his entire traitorous family disowned him to me is far more moral courage than Col. Lee ever showed. It's amazing how all the southern heritage types have never heard of one of the most successful Virginian generals during the civil war. He doesn't have the name recognition alas, but it is my dream for a Gen Thomas statue to replace Lee down in Richmond. Thomas gets overlooked. He is in my top three with Grant and Sherman. Thomas was insanely innovative with the technology available, solid with logistics and administration and knew how to delegate. He also destroyed Hood outside of Nashville.
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Nov 5, 2020 20:15
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Soylent Pudding posted:Here in Virginia I always try and talk up General Thomas, the Rock of Chicamauga, victor of the battle of Nashville, and I believe the only Virginian general who remained loyal to the Union. Standing by his country even though his entire traitorous family disowned him to me is far more moral courage than Col. Lee ever showed. It's amazing how all the southern heritage types have never heard of one of the most successful Virginian generals during the civil war. He doesn't have the name recognition alas, but it is my dream for a Gen Thomas statue to replace Lee down in Richmond.  I want to replace so many of those statues with African American heroes (civil and military), but I also want a few, beyond educational and artistic purpose, to also just remind the South who runs poo poo...forever.
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Nov 5, 2020 20:18
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lmao that Trump paid for oppo research on Fox News that seems like something that ought to piss off mr Murdoch
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Nov 5, 2020 20:22
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MazelTovCocktail posted:
I've said for a while if they want statues of Lee (erected in the civil rights era to remind folks who's in charge, not out of any remembrance for "heritage"), we should put statues of Sherman in Atlanta and Columbia. Fallom posted:lmao that Trump paid for oppo research on Fox News He's now taking donations for his legal fees and to fund any recount efforts.
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Nov 5, 2020 20:26
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As Nero Danced posted:He's now taking donations for his legal fees and to fund any recount efforts.  The grift is strong with him, crowd sourcing his bills, to dodge paying his other bills to Deutsche Bank. I thought he's supposed to be rich?
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Nov 5, 2020 20:35
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stackofflapjacks posted:
Why would you spend your own money when you can make it someone else's patriotic duty to spend theirs for you
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Nov 5, 2020 20:50
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Nov 5, 2020 20:53
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BUT WHAT COULD IT BE!!
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Nov 5, 2020 20:58
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"Maybe if we reach across the aisle more and maybe think of some more centrist policies to be represented by a different white septuagenarian"
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Alright y'all, I'm gonna hit the hay early once loving more in a hope that there will be some form of result in the morning. Godspeed
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Nov 5, 2020 21:06
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Alright y'all, I'm gonna hit the hay early once loving more in a hope that there will be some form of result in the morning. There wont be. Its looking like there really wont even be much of result until tomorrow for us in the country.
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Nov 5, 2020 21:09
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Mustang posted:Do it again Uncle Billy! lightpole posted:Ossof has lost to Perdue twice at this point.  He lost the house special in 2017 to Handel. This is the first race he's run against Perdue.
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Nov 5, 2020 21:10
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Defenestrategy posted:BUT WHAT COULD IT BE!! It appears to be the right wing boogieman of socialism, according to expert at losing elections Ds https://twitter.com/reporterjoe/status/1324440874907033606?s=19
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Nov 5, 2020 21:11
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Nick Soapdish posted:It appears to be the right wing boogieman of socialism, according to expert at losing elections Ds You'd think they'd be learn the opposition is going to trot out that horse every drat time even if they're running to the right of Ayn Rand. And yet...
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Nov 5, 2020 21:14
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As Nero Danced posted:You'd think they'd be learn the opposition is going to trot out that horse every drat time even if they're running to the right of Ayn Rand. And yet... Democrats get the popular vote but lose election: aaaahhhh we’ve lost our way! Democrats win and still win popular vote: Aaaaahhh we’ve lost our way! Introspection has value but man I feel like they tie themselves in dumb knots when just going hard and doing ground game matters a LOT.
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Nov 5, 2020 21:17
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I've usually been more centrist but the last year or so has pushed me hard left. The Dems need to rebrand their policies to avoid socialist labels. Their policies are popular. Their branding is poo poo.
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Nov 5, 2020 21:18
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DurosKlav posted:There wont be. Its looking like there really wont even be much of result until tomorrow for us in the country. Goddamnit, America, get your poo poo in gear and get this done. I'm getting to my physical limits of how many consecutive evenings I can have a couple of beers and hope for the best on the morrow.
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Nov 5, 2020 21:20
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The DCCC and DNC are loving morons. They want to be GOP lite, the "Moderates" but they keep forgetting that the GOP/RNC has proven that won't attracted Republicans, because they want Trumpism. Then they snubbed their best people like AOC/Omar/etc. at the DNC and are surprised that Republicans didn't turn out to vote for GOP lite that DCCC ran on. Its amazing we got this much of the Popular vote as it is.
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Nov 5, 2020 21:20
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mlmp08 posted:Democrats get the popular vote but lose election: aaaahhhh we’ve lost our way! eh if the SC primary taught us anything it's that ground game doesn't loving matter at all
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Nick Soapdish posted:It appears to be the right wing boogieman of socialism, according to expert at losing elections Ds
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MazelTovCocktail posted:
Atlanta needs a 200 ft statue of Sherman standing at sea, reminding uppity white folk of their place like a smirking Statue of Liberty
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RFC2324 posted:Atlanta needs a 200 ft statue of Sherman standing at sea, reminding uppity white folk of their place like a smirking Statue of Liberty  https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324461368624500738?s=21
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RFC2324 posted:Atlanta needs a 200 ft statue of Sherman standing at sea, reminding uppity white folk of their place like a smirking Statue of Liberty Can we make the torch illuminate at night? e: Biden just did a 30 second tv announcement, telling everyone to calm down and wait for the votes to get counted. Nothing new, no questions answered, but honestly I think it was brilliant. He addressed the nation, but that was dedicated to an audience of one. Trump is probably screaming at his aids and campaign people that he wants to be on TV right this loving second, and furious that they won't let him because he'll look unhinged. Biden is goading him. As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Nov 5, 2020 |
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lightpole posted:I've usually been more centrist but the last year or so has pushed me hard left. The Dems need to rebrand their policies to avoid socialist labels. Their policies are popular. Their branding is poo poo. They don't even necessarily need to rebrand away from Socialism if they'd just stop demonizing it themselves.
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