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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

facialimpediment posted:

I'm honestly just happy that Pennsylvania is trending the way it is because I'm really not liking Arizona. The funniest thing in all this is that the Trump Campaign really, really has a good argument that Arizona was called way, way too loving quick.

Nah. It's just some rural counties reporting that skew heavy republican. The populous areas aren't done yet, either. The navajo nation just went 73% for Biden, for example.

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CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Thank you, Johnny Hockey.
Another batch of Delaware County, PA votes just came in- Biden had 3200ish votes to Trump's 807, which should have the lead down to 1,000?

https://twitter.com/cspanJeremy/status/1324503136048975879

Give Jim Acosta a Pulitzer.

edit- Pennsylvania /= Georgia.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Nov 6, 2020

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Mr. Nice! posted:

Nah. It's just some rural counties reporting that skew heavy republican. The populous areas aren't done yet, either. The navajo nation just went 73% for Biden, for example.

Maricopa's next batch ain't gonna be great. It looks like this is the late-early vote, heavily Republican. Might not be enough, but yeah, yikes.

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006

The proper term is Cult.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1324235368590413824










lmao

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
wait. republicans are freedom oriented and dems are authoritarian?

lmbo

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
They're libertarians. Everything is slavery except actual slavery, which is fine

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

ded posted:

wait. republicans are freedom oriented and dems are authoritarian?

lmbo

yeah, dems are the actual racists and nazis - didn't you know?

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007
Lincoln, a Republican, freed the slaves, dummy.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Mr. Nice! posted:

yeah, dems are the actual racists and nazis - didn't you know?

If that were true then they'd have their vote hahaha

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



https://mobile.twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1324512677033660416

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
Did Twitter just call the presidential race?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


I might get a twitter account just so I can go back through his twitter history and report every potentially rule breaking thing he's done. Make an afternoon of it with booze.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Anyone really interested in the demographic breakdowns afterward to see what's the most surprising

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Milo and POTUS posted:

Anyone really interested in the demographic breakdowns afterward to see what's the most surprising

I saw something posted earlier here about trump some how increasing his share of non-white americans by like four points or something over 2016. :shrug:

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Thank you, Johnny Hockey.
New Maricopa numbers have Biden now only up 46,257.

antimatt
Sep 12, 2007

ultima ratio regum
New Georgia numbers have Biden down by only 2,497.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
Under 3k until Georgia flips.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

CBJSprague24 posted:

New Maricopa numbers have Biden now only up 46,257.

Not as bad as I expected!

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1324532790474510337

I think he won the last Maricopa batch by like 19%. That's a sign that the Late-Early (republican) vote might be fading and getting replaced by either in-person absentee or eday, which would be better Democratic. Absolutely shouldn't have been called, but took the wind out of the FRAAAAUUUUUUDDDDD sails. Gotta take the minor victories.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp
Yeah, Arizona looks like it'll be close but Biden should have enough of a margin to squeak out a win. And regardless, Mark Kelly is running a lot further ahead of Biden and should be safe even if Trump wins the state.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

CBJSprague24 posted:

New Maricopa numbers have Biden now only up 46,257.

antimatt posted:

New Georgia numbers have Biden down by only 2,497.

New Pennsylvania numbers have Biden down by 48,856.

As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Nov 6, 2020

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Yeah, Arizona looks like it'll be close but Biden should have enough of a margin to squeak out a win. And regardless, Mark Kelly is running a lot further ahead of Biden and should be safe even if Trump wins the state.

Second big analyst that agrees. I feel better.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324535529829027840

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Nov 6, 2020

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Defenestrategy posted:

I saw something posted earlier here about trump some how increasing his share of non-white americans by like four points or something over 2016. :shrug:

Trump did much better with minorities this election. He also did much better with college educated white women. You know, the Democrats supposed base. He also did better with Republicans then he did in 2016 despite Biden/Harris bending over backwards to get them.

There's a reason why the blue wave didn't happen, and its at the top of the ticket.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CBJSprague24 posted:

Another batch of Delaware County, PA votes just came in- Biden had 3200ish votes to Trump's 807, which should have the lead down to 1,000?

My wife and I (Delco residents) would like to let you know you’re all welcome. :)

Pleasantly surprised my nap didn’t cause me to miss something, but I wish stuff was done by now

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Proud Christian Mom posted:

Trump did much better with minorities this election. He also did much better with college educated white women. You know, the Democrats supposed base. He also did better with Republicans then he did in 2016 despite Biden/Harris bending over backwards to get them.

There's a reason why the blue wave didn't happen, and its at the top of the ticket.

I've been reading that Biden got more votes than any presidential candidate in history, so I would say you're right, but that you're looking at the wrong ticket.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Yeah, Arizona looks like it'll be close but Biden should have enough of a margin to squeak out a win. And regardless, Mark Kelly is running a lot further ahead of Biden and should be safe even if Trump wins the state.

Biden has lead coattails.

Democrats did way loving better in the midterm election than in this presidential election. That should not be happening.

Meanwhile, Democratic leadership is blaming the spectres of communism and police abolition for their losses.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Don Dongington posted:

I've been reading that Biden got more votes than any presidential candidate in history, so I would say you're right, but that you're looking at the wrong ticket.

Trump's got the second most votes of any presidential candidate in history.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

McNally posted:

Trump's got the second most votes of any presidential candidate in history.

If you ain't first you're last.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Platystemon posted:

Biden has lead coattails.

Democrats did way loving better in the midterm election than in this presidential election. That should not be happening.

Meanwhile, Democratic leadership is blaming the spectres of communism and police abolition for their losses.

It's too early to really blame anyone, about anything. Trump was a lead balloon on other republicans, but he also pulled some across. Biden did the same for some (like Peters in Michigan), but didn't for others (like Gideon in Maine).

Nobody really knows anything, this election is weird as gently caress. I'm warming to the idea that the economy was really good, people figured COVID was going to be bad no matter what, and it was easy for those 2018 voters to cast protest votes for Democrats, then this time skip Donnie and vote for their favorite Republicans down the ticket, and way more of them turned out. This election will be analyzed for a long, long time to figure out exactly what drove what.

Georgia update and I'm suddenly happy:

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1324534164826296323

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1324537102566973440

Georgia will go to provisions/military ballots and a recount, but it's still a hilarious buffer in case Arizona goes bad.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006

I HAVE A MICROPENIS AND I WON'T REST UNTIL YOUR CHILDREN DIE FOR IT
Fun Shoe
Jesus Christ, Biden is within 2500 votes of Trump in Georgia.

Imagine if there was less voter suppression that happened - more polling places, more machines in those places, etc.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Platystemon posted:

Biden has lead coattails.

Democrats did way loving better in the midterm election than in this presidential election. That should not be happening.

Meanwhile, Democratic leadership is blaming the spectres of communism and police abolition for their losses.

The midterm election didn't have Trump at the top to get the chuds out.
Cult of personality.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/letdemtweetcake/status/1324375525402517511?s=21

antimatt
Sep 12, 2007

ultima ratio regum

Alright, after laughing myself silly for two minutes straight you can keep that one.

Woofer
Mar 2, 2020

Discussion Quorum posted:

If I was that Fox News decision desk guy, I would already be taking actions to ensure my personal safety. "Trump personally calling me out as an enemy of the people" is deep into bugout bag territory :stare:

They don’t get to avoid the leopard eating their face. They all deserve to burn.

Arven
Sep 23, 2007

Stultus Maximus posted:

The midterm election didn't have Trump at the top to get the chuds out.
Cult of personality.

See also the Alabama special election with Doug Jones. If both the Georgia senate seats go to runoff the senate really is in play.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Proud Christian Mom posted:

Trump did much better with minorities this election. He also did much better with college educated white women. You know, the Democrats supposed base. He also did better with Republicans then he did in 2016 despite Biden/Harris bending over backwards to get them.

There's a reason why the blue wave didn't happen, and its at the top of the ticket.

I'm seeing a lot of this take and I don't buy it.

I'm really struggling to believe that there is this untapped vein of people who would vote for Karl Marx if he was on the ticket but pulled the lever for Trump instead of Biden.

If the claim is that Biden didn't instill enough revolutionary fervor in an electorate looking for a hard left turn, well this election is looking like it will be the highest turnout in American history by a large margin so enthusiasm is clearly not the issue either.

I suspect that the issue is really that the Democratic party is actually extremely lovely at conveying any actual platform (progressive or otherwise) to voters other than, "we're not Republicans.". Especially at the local level.

ManMythLegend fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Nov 6, 2020

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006

Stultus Maximus posted:

The midterm election didn't have Trump at the top to get the chuds out.
Cult of personality.

This is my take away too. I think it’s naive to say anything beyond this because Biden flipped a lot of counties he was supposed to, Trump just cut leads in Miami Dade and the like.

I think dems should definitely push left, especially in cities, then push worker rights, infrastructure, and health care in conservative areas. I think pushing too far in rural areas works against them, but if they keep it local while still being progressive it can work I think.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

McNally posted:

Trump's got the second most votes of any presidential candidate in history.

Yeah, that's the thing that really complicates matters in trying to figure out where to go from here. With Clinton in 2016, turnout was down from the Obama years, so it was easier to pick apart her campaign and the lack of enthusiasm for her candidacy. But Biden (And most Democrats!) got huge, record breaking turnout that would have swept the election any other year—but Republican turnout was just as high, and even greater in many swing congressional districts. And where Democratic candidates outran Biden, it was often moderates like Mark Kelly in Arizona, Roy Cooper in North Carolina, Steve Bullock in Montana (Who lost, but did so five points ahead of Biden), and so on.

There's a lot of info we can't really know until the full election results shake out, but I have a sinking feeling there aren't going to be a lot of good answers as to what to do next. Like, hell, as the numbers currently stand a greater percentage of eligible voters cast their ballots for Biden than voted for FDR during World War II. If those numbers could only produce a narrow, desperate victory, what the hell is the path forward?

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

Didn't that hitchhiker robot get destroyed in Philly after safely traveling across the continent?

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

ManMythLegend posted:

I'm seeing a lot of this take and I don't buy it.

I'm really struggling to believe that there is this untapped vein of people who would vote for Karl Marx if he was on the ticket but pulled the lever for Trump instead of Biden.

They’re not voting for Karl Marx, but they are voting for policies like a fifteen dollar per hour minimum wage.

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