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bulletsponge13 posted:I recently read Kill Anything That Moves, a book draws largely from US Govt sources, and Jesus loving Christ, we were loving monsters. I get that war dehumanizes a man; I understand that it's ingrained to remove a bit of the enemy's humanity in your head; but holy god drat Christ. Yeah, Nick Turse does not hold back with that book. I got to hear him speak about it and answer questions and it really did a number on him.
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I'm not going to truly believe we're past the worst of the danger zone until Biden sits in the Oval Office. The GOP is ramping up its "THE DEMONRATS ARE STEALING THE ELECTION" rhetoric and folks are treating it as them just being sore losers that will come to nothing. There's a non-zero chance that the Republicans talk themselves into taking steps that would tear the country apart. They're already telling their voters that Democrats are the ones actively doing so, so rallying their base to the "defense of the republic" is not outside the realm of possibility, unthinkable through it may be.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Yeah, Nick Turse does not hold back with that book. I got to hear him speak about it and answer questions and it really did a number on him. The part that loving killed me was (paraphrasing) 'every single operational Infantry company in theater admitted they took human trophies'. I know that I have a horribly romantic of what a Grunt is, and how they operate, but what does taking ears and fingers do? Nothing. It doesn't "scare" the enemy anymore than a loving ambush, arty, air strike, or napalming their loving village does. Maybe I'm the anomaly, but the job of an Infantryman is not to kill indiscriminately; it's to effectively apply violence until you achieve compliance of the objective. You are supposed to be loving professional. You kill who needs to be killed, when they have to be killed. Like, it was one of the few times I felt a bit of shame that I shared the title.
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Maricopa new numbers: Biden- 972,570 (+28,285) Trump- 912,115 (+31,716)
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Yeah. Same. Especially with all of the violence done to innocents that Turse did a very good job of not shying away from
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CBJSprague24 posted:Maricopa new numbers: WOOOOOOOO https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324743941271506945?s=19 https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1324744444810301440?s=19
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bulletsponge13 posted:I recently read Kill Anything That Moves, a book draws largely from US Govt sources, and Jesus loving Christ, we were loving monsters. I get that war dehumanizes a man; I understand that it's ingrained to remove a bit of the enemy's humanity in your head; but holy god drat Christ. Racism definitely factors into it. American forces on the European western front in WW2 were downright gentlemanly compared to the barbarity of their counterparts in the Pacific and their successors in Vietnam.
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facialimpediment posted:WOOOOOOOO 
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Racism definitely factors into it. American forces on the European western front in WW2 were downright gentlemanly compared to the barbarity of their counterparts in the Pacific and their successors in Vietnam. 
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"Intellectual inconsistency" was just uttered by John King as a nice way of saying "Trump's campaign are mental midgets and hypocrites".
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Nov 6, 2020 17:12
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Racism definitely factors into it. American forces on the European western front in WW2 were downright gentlemanly compared to the barbarity of their counterparts in the Pacific and their successors in Vietnam. I think the ETO/PTO difference also comes down to how the enemy fought to an extent. After seeing what the Japanese did, it would be easy to just view them as inhuman monsters.
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Nov 6, 2020 17:12
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Fuckin John McCain in Arizona and John Lewis in Georgia is just too fuckin' good. And we don't deserve Ilhan. https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1324699441778089985?s=19
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CBJSprague24 posted:"Intellectual inconsistency" was just uttered by John King as a nice way of saying "Trump's campaign are mental midgets and hypocrites". I really John King...and that he said Delco instead of Delaware County.
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facialimpediment posted:Fuckin John McCain in Arizona and John Lewis in Georgia is just too fuckin' good. Georgia is headed for a recount the SoS just confirmed...so I guess my shirt arriving today is still relevant. But yo Philly and PA, we saved the USA.
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AAAAAAA IT'S ALMOST OVER JESUS gently caress https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1324747076333379585?s=19 https://twitter.com/minakimes/status/1324558899819638784?s=19
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Oh and shout out to PPD for stopping that terrorist attack last night against Philly vote counters....(N)ACAB. Hey got to give them credit for preventing a delay at best and wholesale destruction of ballots and death at worst.
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facialimpediment posted:AAAAAAA IT'S ALMOST OVER JESUS gently caress those loving ghouls are already pushing for GOP legislatures to hijack electors so like someone said above, it isn't over until joe's in the oval.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Racism definitely factors into it. American forces on the European western front in WW2 were downright gentlemanly compared to the barbarity of their counterparts in the Pacific and their successors in Vietnam. I remember an a story from Hastings Armageddon: The Battle for Germany 1944–45 where late in the war I believe some British medics foolishly went into a town still occupied by the Germans to retrieve casualties and a tank commander yelled at them that they got a pass this time, but if they did it again they would be taken prisoner.
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brains posted:those loving ghouls are already pushing for GOP legislatures to hijack electors so like someone said above, it isn't over until joe's in the oval. Pennsylvania literally can't do it. https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1324577679287455745?s=19 There will be ghouls talking trash, and lawsuits flying, and people yelling fraud, and it will all amount to nothing. Joe did it and we'll still be some shambling husk of a democracy in January.
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bulletsponge13 posted:PA Goon here. Wishing misery on Trump is always worth it. Biden sucks poo poo but tossing Trump is something you'll be able to tell people you meaningfully helped make happen. That's great.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:The Vietnam documentary is pretty good but starts from a flawed premise about the legitimacy of the Republic of Vietnam, doesn't speak much to the common brutality faced by the Vietnamese people, and undersells the war crimes perpetrated by Americans, especially by focusing so much on My Lai when it was in no way an aberration or out of the normal for operations in Vietnam. I think my biggest problem with it is that it's probably one of the more watchable documentary series about Vietnam but it misses the mark quite a bit imho I had this very talk on Discord the other day. I don't think anyone believes that The Vietnam War is a 100% "authentic" take on the war, not just because documentaries will always have some form of bias, but also because it starts from an "incomplete" explanation of the situation in Indochina post-French-occupation, but that said, it's really the "best" piece about it out there, especially since it's the most extensive that I've ever seen. I agree about the whole "singling out" the My Lai massacre from a documentary standpoint, since its the only time that the war crimes really take the spotlight in an episode, but there's a whole ton of poo poo about atrocities covered from the point of view of the people interviewed in the series, it's just not really in the spotlight.
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Faithless electors would be such a brazen attack on democracy it would probably break things enough to generate a much stronger desire for change. At least that would be my hope but it would probably instead lead to nothing getting done.
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How do you even find someone who signs up to be a faithless elector? I can't imagine a quicker way to ruin your entire life and possibly even end up dead.
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not caring here posted:How do you even find someone who signs up to be a faithless elector? I can't imagine a quicker way to ruin your entire life and possibly even end up dead. That's not really a thing anymore with the Supreme Court decision (though it's vague-ish), and at this point, Donnie would need to flip like 40 electors. Nope. https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/1324752060621840389?s=19
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facialimpediment posted:That's not really a thing anymore with the Supreme Court decision (though it's vague-ish), and at this point, Donnie would need to flip like 40 electors. Nope. So what states could legally sent different electors? Arizona (currently) is Republican controlled. If they’re bat poo poo crazy enough to do it, is there anything in Arizona laws to prevent it? That said I’d be shocked if they could pull that off, because I’m sure the entire McCain family would just come out and trash dump on it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ko9TpduOhE Just a matter of time now, he's up 22k in NV, 9k in PA, 44k in AZ, and 1600 in GA. I admit I was surprised GA is going this direction, but I'm glad to be wrong.
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NEVADA: Now that the race is called, time to finally count more ballots! REST OF USA: where were you when we actually gave a poo poo NEVADA:
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Woofer posted:Trump is going to sue America. You're probably right. https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1324756312824205313?s=19 And I don't care. IT'S DANCE TIME MOTHERFUCKERS https://twitter.com/ambiej/status/1324751197216018432?s=19
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facialimpediment posted:You're probably right. This is wonderful, but oh dear white people can’t dance.
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Fister Roboto posted:I agree that they suck at messaging, but leftist issues like M4A, GND, UBI, etc are incredibly popular among all Americans. People are saying that the Democrats would be more popular if they embraced them, which is hardly a stretch. Forgive my ignorance but what is GND?
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Forgive my ignorance but what is GND? Green New Deal
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Forgive my ignorance but what is GND? Green New Deal E;fb
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I want to be happier than I am (because lol it's still Biden) but thank gently caress anyways
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Why are Rahm Emanuel and Chris Christie on a live ABC panel? Why have they not been told to calmly walk into the woods?
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bulletsponge13 posted:PA Goon here. I can't comprehend why voting for the lesser of two evils is a bad thing.
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CBJSprague24 posted:I can't comprehend why voting for the lesser of two evils is a bad thing. Because its still endorsing evil. Its a practical necessity tho
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CBJSprague24 posted:I can't comprehend why voting for the lesser of two evils is a bad thing. What... why is voting for the less lovely person a good thing?
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