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Stultus Maximus posted:McConnell obstruction aside, it's a calculation that had to be made. Is the help given to people by a one-time check alone worth another four years of Trump and McConnell destroying more lives? I wouldn't say that it is. I'm certain that people who failed to make rent or food until the democrats get their poo poo together will certainly appreciate this. edit: Comrade Blyatlov posted:Those percentage points meant they had a better chance of helping in future instead of a one time deal though. I guess we'll see, if I end up with two Democrat senators in my home state it'll have paid off. If it doesn't prepare for basically a lame duck term for two years. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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Defenestrategy posted:I'm certain that people who failed to make rent or food until the democrats get their poo poo together will certainly appreciate this. Eat for one more month so Trump can starve you the next month, sure sounds great.
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Worth noting that McConnell's line in the sand was "liability protections for businesses" (aka "We can force you to work in unsafe conditions with no negative reprecussions), which was an utterly monstrous position and nothing that was otherwise offered was worth swallowing that poison pill, regardless of any other political considerations.
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They're still not going to pass any sort of additional stimulus bill. They have no incentive to.
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Nov 8, 2020 18:44
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Trump absolutely could have bullied the Senate into turning on the money printer for the people but he didn't because he never truly understood how close he was to losing the election.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Trump absolutely could have bullied the Senate into turning on the money printer for the people but he didn't because he never truly understood how close he was to losing the election. Trump is also too lazy and stupid to actually drive legislative negotiations, which was why he always sent someone else to talk to Congress for him (before immediately undercutting them in an interview on Hannity)
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A Bad Poster posted:They're still not going to pass any sort of additional stimulus bill. They have no incentive to. Yup. They're real concerned about the deficit
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Nov 8, 2020 18:53
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Trumps numbers jump whenever he shuts up for any length of time. He could have ghosted October and won the election by 10+ points.
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not caring here posted:Mitch's red line was money given to anyone, or any help at all to anyone. His agenda was protecting business against law suits and tax breaks. It was never going to pass. Yeah and this is testing the waters of blaming Pelosi and Dems for no second stimulus. It's frankly bullshit and Mitch McCon should have his nose rubbed in "Grim Reaper of the Senate" or whatever his literal ghoul comment was about killing any bills.
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A Bad Poster posted:They're still not going to pass any sort of additional stimulus bill. They have no incentive to. Businesses, especially bars/restaurants, are still pretty hosed. Mitch wants money for businesses, but nowhere near as much as Pelosi, and especially not state/local aid. He doesn't want zero money, he just wants way less. But anyways, a bit of a fascinating story here. Politicians lie and embellish, but it's entirely possible that Biden is president because of one elderly lady in rural South Carolina asking Rep. Clyburn who he was going to vote for. Her response led him to go public, which led to the SC primary, and everyone scattering. https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1325509822155005953?s=19 Setting aside the "Bernie would've won" stuff, there's a serious, nonzero chance that we could've become a dictatorship if it wasn't for an elderly woman in a red state asking a Democratic representative who he was going to vote for.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Eat for one more month so Trump can starve you the next month, sure sounds great. You guys talk as if that was the only thing the dems could have done differently. They could have claimed credit for the stimulus checks if they had passed. Or they could have run on something actually popular, like, I dunno, Medicare for All that even fox is polling at 72% support. https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1323755297119363072
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaand https://twitter.com/TimMurtaugh/status/1325447194367971331?s=19 That's the poo poo right there. That's what I want.
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I don't buy into the fearmongering that Trump was going to somehow make himself dictator if he just won a second term. You can say that a second Trump would have been bad, but you don't have to veer into fantasy land.
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Comedy option would be trump having the office he didn't want foisted on him for life by the fash leaning electorate
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mlmp08 posted:You know how when someone's stuck down a 30 foot pit and about to die, and they make the leap to a handhold so they're only 20 feet deep and about to die? Those people usually are pretty pumped they made that small leap too. This sounds like some John Scalzi Senior NCO line. I love it.
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ZombieApostate posted:You guys talk as if that was the only thing the dems could have done differently. Stuff like this that 72% of people support, but what, 25%?, of congress support really pisses me off.
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Xenoborg posted:Stuff like this that 72% of people support, but what, 25%?, of congress support really pisses me off. Well, the AMA donates more than most Americans to campaigns, soo...
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Godholio posted:Well, the AMA donates more than most Americans to campaigns, soo... Land doesn't vote, but capital sure does
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facialimpediment posted:Aaaaaaaaaaaaand Yeah about that https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1325523301725319169?s=19 Lol https://twitter.com/WashTimes/status/1325525833713324034?s=19
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the pharma industry sure got their money's worth out of Jim Clyburn
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Weren't we supposed to be getting hit with a meteorite the day before the election
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DO IT
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I’d straight up ask if this isn’t some preemptive form of blackmail for pardons, normally I’d say I’m being silly and paranoid....but this family. Like this idiot would probably post pictures from the SIOP to “own the libs.”
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orange juche posted:DO IT Seriously. Show me the alien bigfoot ufo files.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Seriously. I want to see the proof they've been hiding that Mothman and Bigfoot are hiding in the Rockies. I know they're out there but they pretend they aren't.
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Bigfoot and Mothman probably run socialist communities in the abandon
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I missed some stuff too: https://twitter.com/DJJudd/status/1325526858625142784?s=19 The magic's just gone. He's now yesterday's news. https://twitter.com/apbenven/status/1325513882211934209?s=19
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Bigfoot and Mothman probably run socialist communities in the abandon Weird, I was just watching a youtube paranormal show that veered into that conspiracy. Those guys were all about misreading coincidence as part of the nefarious plot by the interdimensional aliens, so now I suspect that you are one yourself. This is just sad. He really does live in a deluded little bubble of his own creation. If this gets worse he might get 25th'd out of office before innauguration.
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As Nero Danced posted:Weird, I was just watching a youtube paranormal show that veered into that conspiracy. Those guys were all about misreading coincidence as part of the nefarious plot by the interdimensional aliens, so now I suspect that you are one yourself. Nah. I just love conspiracy poo poo surrounding crypto and ufos and ghosts and poo poo. I'm more worried that the simulation detected a flux in some inter-dimensional asswaves and instead of collapsing for a trump re-election we now have to wait for Stephen Greer to signal the aliens himself to push us to The Great Reset. Chupacabra was just telling me the other day he stole 100k trump votes and they're in a new mexico storage locker. Or I smoke too much weed.
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Hillary killed Q, so they're rudderless https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1325540827498770433?s=19 Edit: Alright, this recap got me. https://twitter.com/PoliticoCharlie/status/1325542642827014150 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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facialimpediment posted:
He would have had more votes because less of his supporters would have been dead.
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It's amazing how he should have had it in the bag because vast swaths of the electorate are just fine with his brand of fascism yet he couldn't help but trump it up. Hell, he probably could have even threatened mcconnell himself. Tell him if he doesn't pass another stimulus, anything, he'll visit Kentucky himself come reelection season and get the god drat republicans to vote for joseph loving stalin and they'd probably do it.
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Fister Roboto posted:I don't buy into the fearmongering that Trump was going to somehow make himself dictator if he just won a second term. You can say that a second Trump would have been bad, but you don't have to veer into fantasy land. Our government relies on unwritten norms and decorum among the politicians, and trust by the citizens among other things. Their breakdown is a self-reinforcing cycle and I think the structure is a lot more unstable now than it was 20 years ago.
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Milo and POTUS posted:It's amazing how he should have had it in the bag because vast swaths of the electorate are just fine with his brand of fascism yet he couldn't help but trump it up. Hell, he probably could have even threatened mcconnell himself. Tell him if he doesn't pass another stimulus, anything, he'll visit Kentucky himself come reelection season and get the god drat republicans to vote for joseph loving stalin and they'd probably do it. For all we know that's what he tried. In the first couple years of the presidency Trump was open about offering his base to whip up support for his chosen candidates. And when they kept losing the GOP probably started to realize that Trump couldn't do anything for them.
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lightpole posted:Our government relies on unwritten norms and decorum among the politicians, and trust by the citizens among other things. Their breakdown is a self-reinforcing cycle and I think the structure is a lot more unstable now than it was 20 years ago.
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And the data folks are saying that Arizona's done. https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1325574965303910401 https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer/status/1325578469628018688 https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1325578272302903296 Arizona doesn't say what types of ballots are left, but it's looking like they chewed through the late-early heavily-republican votes. Edit: Now it's kinda really, really done. https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1325586888405749760 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Nov 8, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/alicelfc4/status/1324731431206244352 Edit, to avoid a double post: CNN is saying that Kushner and Melania are telling trump to give up. Who knows if it'll go anywhere, but it's a positive sign. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/08/politics/jared-kushner-donald-trump-concession/index.html Spoggerific fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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I saw there was a Trump documentary on Netflix and wanted to hatewatch it, but decided to hold off until after the election results in the hopes that I could watch it with the story having a happy ending. Fortunately, that panned out.
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