Stultus Maximus posted:

The specific post I responded to sure sounded like defeatist whining to me.

not caring here posted:

I think trump just put his personal chopper up for sale so I don't think he's got money for poo poo right now, so probably pretty safe

Defenestrategy posted:

I'm not the one chanting 'gently caress Trump' every time someone basically offers a slam or critique against the Biden Ticket. As if the correct option wasn't somehow launching Trump into the sun, pence to jail, Kamala to the middle of an ocean, and Biden to a retirement villa in Florida or some such.

We could have all come together to do that instead you know.

mlmp08 posted:

Climate change is that primo doomscrolling. Makes elections and economics look cheerful by comparison. And it’s very near term, not some philosophical heat-death of universe thinking.

Defenestrategy posted:

You don't have to tell me that, we just lived through a "Better things just aren't possible", The Election, but people should be pissed about having to do it in the first place not happy just because the Orange Man is no longer gonna be around to make things worse, especially since it'll be a miracle and a half for the rest of my fellow Atlantan's to save the countries rear end a second time.

Unless I've mistaken it for some sort of black humor "World is hosed and it aint gettin' better so may as well be happy for somethin'."

Stultus Maximus posted:

The specific post I responded to sure sounded like defeatist whining to me.

Defenestrategy posted:

Unless I've mistaken it for some sort of black humor "World is hosed and it aint gettin' better so may as well be happy for somethin'."

Soylent Pudding posted:

The trend across the various progressive spaces I'm in is that the greater percentage BIPOC or LGBTQ+ the space the more genuinely ecstatic they are right now. A community leader I'm friends with just posted a whole thing roughly paraphrased as "BIPOC organizers just kicked a fascist out of the White House and now a bunch of white male leftists are telling us that ain't good enough so we don't deserve to be happy about it."

Woofer posted:

We are not allowed to be happy about small progress when there are bigger issues.

I will not support another stimulus check because what we need is universal basic income.

mlmp08 posted:

Sure. Wanna knock a multimillionaire #Resist celebrity down a peg over their love of captialsim and exploitative behavior? Go hog wild!

Wanna piss in Georgian or Pennsylvanian community organizers’ Cheerios because we don’t have full socialism and the candidate you wanted? Tiresome whining.

Fister Roboto posted:

Well we're never getting another stimulus check anyway so that's moot.

But seriously, this is already getting really frustrating. For months we've been told that we have to elect Biden and then we can criticize him. And now that he's elected, we get nothing but bad faith deflections and excuses. I wish I could say I was surprised.

Woofer posted:

I don’t know who posted it but someone made the analogy that someone who is holding onto a ledge for dear life 60 feet deep in a pit would be ecstatic if they made ten feet of progress.

You’re the reminder that they still have 50 feet to go.

Let people enjoy that ten feet for a second, poo poo.

Fister Roboto posted:

Alright then, when will it be acceptable to criticize Biden?

Woofer posted:

Ok, now you’re just not arguing in good faith. You are absolutely making GBS threads on people being happy and you know it.

But wait, the president didn’t actually say those words!!

gently caress off, chud.

Woofer posted:

gently caress off, chud.

Woofer posted:

When he’s actually the president seems fair.

Why are you so opposed to people finding joy in getting a fascist out of office and not wanting you to poo poo on that joy? We’ve been intensely unhappy for four years straight.

gently caress, dude. Let people be happy for a bit, that’s all.

ZombieApostate posted:

First it was 24 hours after the election was called, now it's after he's actually president and once he's president it will be after his first term is over. This is literally the "it's not the time to discuss gun violence too soon after a mass shooting" argument.

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

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nwin posted:

Let’s be pissed of at Biden before he’s inaugurated and has had a chance to act as president. I also recommend we start getting pissed off at whomever wins the 2024 election for not taking action now. Actually they should have started acting on these issues before I typed that sentence.

For fucks sake this is stupid.

Fister Roboto posted:

Wow you're right, when you make it seem like I said things that I didn't, it does sound stupid.

The Democratic party is trying to start a narrative that progressive politics are electorally toxic. That's not just a lie, but it's a danger to our country's (and world's) future. If people are actually serious about implementing the radical changes that are needed to survive, then they shouldn't be making excuses for this.

Fister Roboto posted:

mlmp08 posted:

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1325890434187530247?s=21

lol

ZombieApostate posted:

There's nothing stopping you from being happy about the outcome, but you guys sure seem determined to shout us down, after we helped you win, despite our reservations. Be happy if you want, but don't try to tell us we're not allowed to still have concerns.

Hekk posted:

Epiphyte posted:

I mean, I kinda get that we can't wait to immediately start putting pressure

The data we have is too fragmentary and lovely to actually draw broad conclusions as to what worked and didn't work in the election, but that hasn't stopped the usual suspects from screaming about "THE SQUAD LOST THE ELECTION" And if you let that poo poo go unchallenged until we get the actual data, welp it's too goddamn late

CBJSprague24 posted:

Did we talk about Hair Fuhrer canning his Defense Secretary yet?