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McNally posted:I think you'll find that there are exactly zero posters in this subforum who don't have concerns, so I don't know who the gently caress you're talking to. I thought it was implied heavily enough that I meant concerns about Biden in particular, not concerns in general. If that didn't come through, I apologize. MazelTovCocktail posted:Inverse is true too. I mean... https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1325141128450961414 https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1323755297119363072 https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323752624341065734 https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1323755668835360773 In the absence of more data, these are some pretty strong looking hints.
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ZombieApostate posted:I thought it was implied heavily enough that I meant concerns about Biden in particular, not concerns in general. If that didn't come through, I apologize. Nobody is willing to risk it, because even though it polls well, they are afraid of "what if its wrong?" because all the old heads are more focused on staying in power than doing right by their constituents. AOC et al are all freshman congresscritters, and don't have 20+ years of wasting taxpayer money to be concerned about preserving. There should be term limits so that congress doesn't have to worry about preserving their 30 years on the government dole, because just like any other career, once you consider it your career, you start making maneuvers to preserve your career vs what would actually be the best choice for the situation.
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orange juche posted:There should be term limits so that congress doesn't have to worry about preserving their 30 years on the government dole. Staffers and lobbyists would be even more in charge than they are today.
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Nov 9, 2020 22:25
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Staffers and lobbyists would be even more in charge than they are today. System is hosed, but it can't be changed so why bother, I guess?
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orange juche posted:System is hosed, but it can't be changed so why bother, I guess? There are lots of things that should be changed, but imo term limits for legislators is not as clear of a positive reform as it is presented sometimes.
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ZombieApostate posted:I thought it was implied heavily enough that I meant concerns about Biden in particular, not concerns in general. If that didn't come through, I apologize. Hmm....man gun control really doesn't have that much strong support.  I get it, really I do, but at the same time what are the districts like where people who ran on M4A? If it's a D+30 like AOC, then it just means people like red meat, just like they do for certain polices in R+30 ones, of little utility for national trends. Also I trust a Fox poll about as much as a WCW web poll about Hulk Hogan....but cheap joke aside, it's really something that's going to need a lot more data (as you point out) and analytical work. I'm willing to remain open minded, but I need something harder then what is being offered right now. orange juche posted:There should be term limits so that congress doesn't have to worry about preserving their 30 years on the government dole, because just like any other career, once you consider it your career, you start making maneuvers to preserve your career vs what would actually be the best choice for the situation. Okay Newt! How about a balanced budget while we're at it too! Sorry I just never figured I'd get to make a Contract with America reference these days.
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Nov 9, 2020 22:37
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It also occurs to me that Donnie declared victory on Tuesday/Wednesday and everyone threw up a collective "lol" and here we are. His legal arguments are basically going to be I WAS LEADING EARLY.
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facialimpediment posted:For all the poo poo about Democrats attacking and eating each other, it's not exactly clean on the Republican side either. Yeah, gently caress the two of them. There is only one solution for secessionist trash from Georgia. I think we know that solution.
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And meanwhile, the schtick is getting old in non-primetime Fox News: https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1325917802457391107?s=19
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Hmm....man gun control really doesn't have that much strong support. It's not overwhelming like goverment run health care or investment in renewable energy, but it's still a solid majority. And if we can only get health care and green energy, that'd still be a huge improvement. quote:I get it, really I do, but at the same time what are the districts like where people who ran on M4A? If it's a D+30 like AOC, then it just means people like red meat, just like they do for certain polices in R+30 ones, of little utility for national trends. She specifically said swing states, but I guess they could still be in gerrymandered districts. Anyway, here's the lists I remembered seeing. https://twitter.com/JonathanCohn/status/1324732079733616641 https://twitter.com/Thom_Hartmann/status/1325209453252112384 quote:Also I trust a Fox poll about as much as a WCW web poll about Hulk Hogan....but cheap joke aside, it's really something that's going to need a lot more data (as you point out) and analytical work. I'm willing to remain open minded, but I need something harder then what is being offered right now. If anybody knows where you can find polling data about issues instead of candidates, I'd genuinely like to know where it is. The only things I could find were Trump vs Biden or favorability or whatever. Nothing issues based.
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orange juche posted:System is hosed, but it can't be changed so why bother, I guess? Your cause/effect/proposed solution/desired outcome/actual outcome aren't aligned is what he is saying.
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ZombieApostate posted:It's not overwhelming like goverment run health care or investment in renewable energy, but it's still a solid majority. And if we can only get health care and green energy, that'd still be a huge improvement. Pew is always great. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/08/13/important-issues-in-the-2020-election/
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Nov 9, 2020 23:49
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facialimpediment posted:And meanwhile, the schtick is getting old in non-primetime Fox News:  when not even the non opinion shows on Fox will Air your insane drivel, you know the ship is taking on water at an insurmountable rate.
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Nov 9, 2020 23:54
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ZombieApostate posted:I thought it was implied heavily enough that I meant concerns about Biden in particular, not concerns in general. If that didn't come through, I apologize. Please point to the posters who are completely okay with Biden so that we may all laugh at them together.
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Don't get me wrong though, Fox News does this dance ALL THE TIME. It's just funny when it happens in daytime, though the problem is always nighttime.
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orange juche posted:System is hosed, but it can't be changed so why bother, I guess? The system obviously needs to be reformed, but term limits are not a good solution.
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Nov 10, 2020 00:23
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facialimpediment posted:For all the poo poo about Democrats attacking and eating each other, it's not exactly clean on the Republican side either. They forgot what year it is and expected him to say "sure whatever I'm governor now, smdftb"
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shame on an IGA posted:They forgot what year it is and expected him to say "sure whatever I'm governor now, smdftb" He fears Sherman, like any good Georgian should.
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Nov 10, 2020 00:35
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Slim Pickens posted:The chuds are so delusional. They sure do take their time after the presidential primaries.
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Grip it and rip it posted:The system obviously needs to be reformed, but term limits are not a good solution. Yeah, all you need to do is look at any state that's actually enacted legislative term limits and see how they don't actually solve any problems—it just turns the entire chamber into a revolving door and gives undue influence to lobbyists. One of those ideas that I understand the sentiment, but it doesn't really work in practice.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Yeah, all you need to do is look at any state that's actually enacted legislative term limits and see how they don't actually solve any problems—it just turns the entire chamber into a revolving door and gives undue influence to lobbyists. One of those ideas that I understand the sentiment, but it doesn't really work in practice. Also that 25 year old poo poo head who just got elected to the House is proof that Young blood isn’t always good or preferable to some old rear end, on their 5th term Rep.
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Well, theyre gonna try it. McConnell is on board now too https://twitter.com/MCJalonick/status/1325947210098483200
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Well, theyre gonna try it. McConnell is on board now too Yeah McConnell just got done flapping his gums about a decisive republican senate victory and how the presidential results are "preliminary". They use the same loving ballots.
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McNally posted:I think you'll find that there are exactly zero posters in this subforum who don't have concerns, so I don't know who the gently caress you're talking to.  Literally the argument I made for weeks before finally losing my poo poo and getting 6ed. He doesn't get it. He doesn't want to. He's not going to stop these posts.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Hmm....man gun control really doesn't have that much strong support. I'm not an expert but I think the data we need is how the ballots look in the places that went for Biden as President but a Republican down ballot. If there are a lot of lefties who voted for Biden to get Trump out but said "gently caress that noise" to the centrist Democrats running for Congress, that would imply that the Democrats need to run harder left. If areas that poll heavily for M4A and higher minimum wage also voted heavily for Biden and Republican Congress then I don't even know what the gently caress.
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Stultus Maximus posted:If areas that poll heavily for M4A and higher minimum wage also voted heavily for Biden and Republican Congress then I don't even know what the gently caress. Republicans generally don't know the actual policy of either party. The chuds around me who haven't gone silent out of shame are still screeching how Biden is going to abolish the police and defund social security.
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biden didnt win because hes popular, he won because trump is that hated so hated that an actual record number of people voted against him
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Arven posted:Republicans generally don't know the actual policy of either party. The chuds around me who haven't gone silent out of shame are still screeching how Biden is going to abolish the police and defund social security. Just got off the phone with my grandma who said she held her nose to vote for Biden but hopes he can stand up to radical leftists like Schumer.
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At this point. Barr,McConnell and the rest of these sewer beasts are culpable for the most cumulative damage to the United States in our history And yeah I'm going to count the civil war in there.
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Here’s a bs argument floating around chud groups on Twitter. Manipulation of statistics to make it seems there is legitimate fraud. The account has a lot of cherry picked or falsified statistics to “prove” their side, with a health dose of “dems compromised by China” and “Hunter Biden’s laptop!” https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1325592112428163072.html
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Sorry for being such an rear end in a top hat everyone. I'll try to find some other place to be a sadbrains idiot. Please report me for a ban if I post here again.
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I really need to stop doomscrolling. https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/status/1325962351925981184 https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/status/1325966522108481536 He's got a loving month and then the vote goes final. gently caress him.
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Don’t lose faith bothers, but remember the words of our Patron Saint. Also I knew that fat piece of poo poo Barr was up to something. I was hoping him being absent from the public just meant he got Mark Meadows rona.
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