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Conservative talking points are also rooted in emotional response and fears, which is a lot easier to relate to than big plans and things. I'm not saying having big plans is bad, just that it is a harder sell for what conservatives are selling
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Conservative talking points are also rooted in emotional response and fears, which is a lot easier to relate to than big plans and things. I'm not saying having big plans is bad, just that it is a harder sell for what conservatives are selling Aren't emotional appeals basically the easiest way to sell poo poo to people? If you can create an emotional connection to the recipient of the message, you've basically got them. People are basically dumb animals and will readily fall for emotional poo poo, which is why there are sad doggo ads on TV all the time. orange juche fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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Nov 10, 2020 02:35
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Conservative talking points are also rooted in emotional response and fears, which is a lot easier to relate to than big plans and things. I'm not saying having big plans is bad, just that it is a harder sell for what conservatives are selling This probably helped defeat Trump. His complete failure to address the pandemic was a huge source of emotional response and fear that went against him. It's easier to be afraid of a virus that is visibly killing hundreds of thousands of people and keeping you from seeing your family than it is to be afraid of central American migrant caravans and Deep Staters sneaking into your house to steal your Bibles.
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Stultus Maximus posted:This probably helped defeat Trump. His complete failure to address the pandemic was a huge source of emotional response and fear that went against him. It's easier to be afraid of a virus that is visibly killing hundreds of thousands of people and keeping you from seeing your family than it is to be afraid of central American migrant caravans and Deep Staters sneaking into your house to steal your Bibles. Yeah but truimp had 10 million more votes than he did in 2016. really didnt think it was going to be this close in some states
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Nov 10, 2020 02:44
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/drvox/status/1325938910103396354?s=21 This is some West Wing Obama poo poo. "If only we can talk it out with the American people, surely we can lay out a cogent, logical case." If you're old enough to remember air america, you will also remember how bad dems/libs were at this.
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Nov 10, 2020 02:51
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stealie72 posted:This is some West Wing Obama poo poo. "If only we can talk it out with the American people, surely we can lay out a cogent, logical case." The one that managed to go bankrupt, right?
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I think he’s saying the opposite. West Wing wankery was “best speech wins” where instead the writer above is arguing “mass fuckin’ media is stronk; abuse the hell out of it”
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Nov 10, 2020 03:08
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mlmp08 posted:I think he’s saying the opposite. West Wing wankery was “best speech wins” where instead the writer above is arguing “mass fuckin’ media is stronk; abuse the hell out of it” And yeah, Air America, the quickly bankrupt AM radio chain that had all the star power of Al Franken.
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Nov 10, 2020 03:14
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stealie72 posted:Drink or three in tonight but thats basically what I mean. Trying to counter propaganda with a winning debate club speech. Propaganda is going to win, so get on it. Hey didn’t forget TV’s Frank... until they stopped booking him and he was bitching about it. Seriously if you told me it was a scam funded by right wing Republicans, it would actually be less embarrassing, then the reality it was just so pissed poorly done and ignored.
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Nov 10, 2020 03:22
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stealie72 posted:Drink or three in tonight but thats basically what I mean. Trying to counter propaganda with a winning debate club speech. Propaganda is going to win, so get on it. Don't forget Rachel Maddow and Mark Maron!!! Surely a big enough team to knock the wind out of Rush's sails!!!
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Nov 10, 2020 03:33
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How'd they get the next months' worth of NPR stories already?
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Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, did Alex Bennett ever work at air america? Or Lynn Samuels? I listened to Lynn for two years or so on sirius, every time I hear Abba now I think of her.
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 As a lawyer, you’d be surprised how often we do this. This isn’t meant as a slam or smart rear end remark, just more about the quirks of the legal profession.You’d be surprised who you’re regularly drinking with or settling cases with.
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Air America might have failed, but at least something is finally knocking the wind out of Rush.
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Thelonious posted:Air America might have failed, but at least something is finally knocking the wind out of Rush. I guess cancer owned the Libs by beating him, before they could?
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Nov 10, 2020 03:52
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Thelonious posted:Air America might have failed, but at least something is finally knocking the wind out of Rush. Both Rushes are casualties of 2020. Neil Peart died in January of glioblastoma  Rush Limbaugh has terminal lung cancer  Cancer is a land of contrasts.
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Nov 10, 2020 03:54
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orange juche posted:Both Rushes are casualties of 2020. No cancer pretty much loving sucks.
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Nov 10, 2020 04:26
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Grip it and rip it posted:No cancer pretty much loving sucks. Yeah, I mean if I could, I’d love having my left testicle back. If only just for the fact that my wife couldn’t grammar correct me when I refer to my ball and say balls. lol But no really it would be cool to have it back and also surgery and chemo realllllllly loving sucked.
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Grip it and rip it posted:gently caress cancer
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:There are lots of things that should be changed, but imo term limits for legislators is not as clear of a positive reform as it is presented sometimes. Not term limits, but age limits. You can't be in the legislature if you're over the age of 70.
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Nov 10, 2020 05:15
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PeterCat posted:Not term limits, but age limits. You can't be in the If we can accept that folks under 25 broadly aren't fit to assume a seat in the House, we sure as gently caress can assume that the average person over 70 is on the road to cognitive decline and simply lacks the mental agility to respond to new and changing circumstances required by just about any high pressure job.
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Nov 10, 2020 05:21
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Cugel the Clever posted:FTFY Betty Soskin can work as long as she drat well wants. 
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The left will never have a propaganda machine to rival Fox and poo poo like that. There's billionaires willing to fund the GOP media empire for messaging purposes and personal profit. Anything on the other side would cost them money. So we're hosed, is what I'm saying. It's a battle that will never even be started much less won.
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bird food bathtub posted:The left will never have a propaganda machine to rival Fox and poo poo like that. There's billionaires willing to fund the GOP media empire for messaging purposes and personal profit. Anything on the other side would cost them money. Maybe if you try to counter them with the same format. They have several decades head start and a resource advantage. One of the messages AOC has been trying to get through is that there are other options and many Dems don't take advantage of them or even try them out. Obama managed to overcome the propaganda with a grass roots effort as she pointed out. Otherwise I guess just giving up now is a valid option.
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lightpole posted:Maybe if you try to counter them with the same format. They have several decades head start and a resource advantage. One of the messages AOC has been trying to get through is that there are other options and many Dems don't take advantage of them or even try them out. Obama managed to overcome the propaganda with a grass roots effort as she pointed out. Sometimes I'll be surprised to find an at-all left leaning FM/AM station, typically in a college town. Usually with a really low budget production and the host is a sophomore in Broadcast but it's something. no, NPR isn't left. People give TYT a lot of poo poo but I do think a group like them with a bigger stage would be a net positive for dems.
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Cyks posted:Sometimes I'll be surprised to find an at-all left leaning FM/AM station, typically in a college town. Usually with a really low budget production and the host is a sophomore in Broadcast but it's something. no, NPR isn't left. I really liked when Sam Seder was out for Mike Thernovich's blood, that was funny, too bad most of the time he is up his own rear end pretty far. I don't really get how the younger conservative hosts get a following, most of these guys are painfully unfunny, and they don't bring anything to the table Mike Savage and Rush aren't already doing. Like Dave Rubin and Baked Alaska are racing to be the most cringey fucks on YouTube.
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I'm ing that the solution here is: "Fox News, but lefty." I'm cracking up just trying to imagine what their editorial positions would be. Leftists can barely agree on how to spell Marx's name, let alone run a major news and opinion outlet with a unifying message. Leftists' general hatred for everyone other than themselves is why mobilizing in the US has never happened outside of isolated policy issues. For Christ's sake, this very thread had leftist edgelord's come in here and call anyone who was happy Trump lost a centrist shill because of whatever reason is currently striking them. But sure, it's clear that a 24/7 news outlet is the best solution to the US's partisan divisions even without ideological unity on the left, and would never become nationally broadcast proof why the left should never be given power.
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It probably wouldn’t really work to cheerlead because 1: lame 2: circular left firing squad 3: woke landmine derails What might work: nonstop drumbeat that mega rich institutions are bad for you and your family and the inherent anti-democratic and anti-individual positions of the GOP Not just rich people, because demonizing individual rich people is how Fox News misdirects by riling people up against a singer or professional athlete while going to bat for Exxon.
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https://twitter.com/ishaantharoor/status/1326182248958353408?s=19 Honestly, if the staffers all get golden parachutes and no one is held accountable, it is gonna be Obama all over again and regular people will get hosed hard again
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Nov 10, 2020 16:36
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mlmp08 posted:It probably wouldn’t really work to cheerlead because Going anti-corporate is the correct path, however that just points all the money in the world directly at your heart like a spear.
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https://twitter.com/toddgillman/status/1326019818588409857?s=21 Refusing to concede to
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mlmp08 posted:It probably wouldn’t really work to cheerlead because No one who believes the rich and corporations are the problem is anywhere near democratic leadership.
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Nov 10, 2020 17:50
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Internet Wizard posted:He’s bumped it up, it was 50% earlier It's even worse than that. Before it was 50/50 Donny's campaign/recount effort. Now it's 60/40 Donny's campaign/the RNC.
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A Bad Poster posted:It's even worse than that. Before it was 50/50 Donny's campaign/recount effort. Now it's 60/40 Donny's campaign/the RNC. And someone just caught that the Donniemoney is going into a brand-new DonniePAC that he can use for whatever doesn't pay off his debts. Woo!
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facialimpediment posted:And someone just caught that the Donniemoney is going into a brand-new DonniePAC that he can use for whatever doesn't pay off his debts. Woo! If he has any money left. I have my doubts that the next 4 years is gonna be nice to Trump finances.
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I'm confident he can turn being absolutely worshipped by 70mil + people into a profitable endeavor if he hasn't already
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Best Friends posted:I'm confident he can turn being absolutely worshipped by 70mil + people into a profitable endeavor if he hasn't already Didn't he just sell his personal chopper, despite constant and increasingly desperate please to his base for more money?
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