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Hope y'all are ready for 4 years of "stolen election!" and "he's not my president!"
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For those playing along at home, 306-232 is exactly the same as 2016.
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Nov 13, 2020 06:01
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:For those playing along at home, 306-232 is exactly the same as 2016. It’s better, actually; Trump got 304 EV due to 2 faithless electors. Biden did better than his YUGE LANDSLIDE WIN
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Nov 13, 2020 06:07
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Riot Carol Danvers posted:Hope y'all are ready for 4 years of "stolen election!" and "he's not my president!" Honestly I just expect the "He's not my president!" poo poo to continue from whichever side loses from now on.
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Nov 13, 2020 06:34
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Elmnt80 posted:Honestly I just expect the "He's not my president!" poo poo to continue from whichever side loses from now on. Probably
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Nov 13, 2020 06:50
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Riot Carol Danvers posted:Hope y'all are ready for 4 years of "stolen election!" and "he's not my president!" So just like when obama was president?
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Nov 13, 2020 07:07
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https://twitter.com/NicoleConlan/status/1326928011963195397
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Nov 13, 2020 10:12
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Time Crisis Actor posted:It’s better, actually; Trump got 304 EV due to 2 faithless electors. Biden did better than his YUGE LANDSLIDE WIN Why would you say this The EC vote hasn't happened yet Their next tactic is to try to get enough faithless electors in play to swing the result (they won't) or claim the resulting margin means they have no mandate (more likely but still probably not)
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Nov 13, 2020 10:51
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Aw man I can’t wait to see what my Facebook friends from Arizona are going to post now....I really used to like it there.
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Nov 13, 2020 11:34
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Woofer posted:If I was a mod I would probate you until inauguration day for insinuating that Donald Trump is cute. It's cruel to rats to compare them to trump, who is more of a shape that America's hate and ignorance has taken the form of.
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Nov 13, 2020 12:10
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On the other hand, rats were also responsible for a major plague.
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Nov 13, 2020 12:45
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Stultus Maximus posted:On the other hand, rats were also responsible for a major plague. They truly are an animal of contrast
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Nov 13, 2020 13:01
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Stultus Maximus posted:On the other hand, rats were also responsible for a major plague. Wasn't that the fleas rather than the rats?
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Nov 13, 2020 13:22
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nwin posted:Aw man I can’t wait to see what my Facebook friends from Arizona are going to post now....I really used to like it there. I drove through Tonto Forest and loved the scenery. Beautiful part of the country.
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Nov 13, 2020 13:26
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Pine Cone Jones posted:Wasn't that the fleas rather than the rats? Correct, and that plague would have been sorted out with some basic antibiotics. Instead, the black plague rawdogged Europe until about the only people left had a genetic resistance/immunity to the bacteria.
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Nov 13, 2020 13:30
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https://twitter.com/Inky_Dan/status/1327254151110291457?s=20 Sounds fishy that D clerks tried their best to cure ballots whereas R clerks DGAF. It is pretty great that Rs always want federalism until it doesn't work for them
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Nov 13, 2020 14:25
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Mr. Nice! posted:Correct, and that plague would have been sorted out with some basic antibiotics. Instead, the black plague rawdogged Europe until about the only people left had a genetic resistance/immunity to the bacteria. The plague has a case fatality rate of one in ten even with antibiotics.
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Nov 13, 2020 14:28
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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-discussed-replacing-electoral-college-with-loyalists-nyt-2020-11 You know what, if 2020 is gonna take the dumbest route but have any redeeming value, it would be great if one state did this but wasn't enough to actually change the election so the backlash would be to destroy the EC (unlikely) or pass the national voter's compact (more likely)
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Nov 13, 2020 15:31
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Mr. Nice! posted:Correct, and that plague would have been sorted out with some basic antibiotics. Instead, the black plague rawdogged Europe until about the only people left had a genetic resistance/immunity to the bacteria. Fun fact, the bubonic plague is endemic in New Mexico and Colorado by way of the prairie dogs everywhere. One of my exes learned the hard way not to joke about having the plague when she accidentally triggered a minor panic in the ER
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Nov 13, 2020 15:54
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-discussed-replacing-electoral-college-with-loyalists-nyt-2020-11 Or everyone in charge would throw their hands in the air and say "well he didn't break any of the rules so he gets another 4 years".
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Nov 13, 2020 16:43
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"And like Benjamin Franklin, Gritty is very popular with older women." Nice.
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Nov 13, 2020 17:18
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CNN has called the final two outstanding states- GA to Biden, NC to Der Fuhrer.
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Nov 13, 2020 19:25
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Don Dongington posted:Why would you say this The party that wins a state uses their own electors to case the votes. They're usually faithful party people. I don't see why Biden wouldn't get 306
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Nov 13, 2020 20:00
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Don Dongington posted:Why would you say this Why the gently caress have the electoral college system if you can have faithless electors go against how people have voted?
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Nov 13, 2020 20:09
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How long until big strong orange loser start rattling out ideas to try and bribe electors into going faithless?
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Nov 13, 2020 20:13
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Leavemywife posted:Why the gently caress have the electoral college system if you can have faithless electors go against how people have voted? Umm, excuse me, haven't you seen the hit musical Hamil--*garrotted*
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Nov 13, 2020 20:21
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Leavemywife posted:Why the gently caress have the electoral college system if you can have faithless electors go against how people have voted? In theory, it was meant to counter the illiterate, unwashed masses from choosing a president like Trump. The electors were supposed to be the "voice of reason". As time has passed, this function no longer happens, especially with some states passing laws that prohibit "faithless electors". Once ALL states pass laws about their electors being bound to vote a certain way, the electoral college will be obsolete.
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Nov 13, 2020 20:24
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ASAPI posted:In theory, it was meant to counter the illiterate, unwashed masses from choosing a president like Trump. The electors were supposed to be the "voice of reason". As time has passed, this function no longer happens, especially with some states passing laws that prohibit "faithless electors". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact Its getting close!
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Nov 13, 2020 20:30
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ASAPI posted:In theory, it was meant to counter the illiterate, unwashed masses from choosing a president like Trump.
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Nov 13, 2020 20:40
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Leavemywife posted:Why the gently caress have the electoral college system if you can have faithless electors go against how people have voted? Theoretically to prevent people like Donald Trump from becoming president.
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Nov 13, 2020 20:45
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stealie72 posted:Pretty sure the EC is already obsolete because it had its chance to do its job for the first time in 226 years in 2016 yet didnt do it. ~*~bUt wE'vE aLwAyS dOnE iT tHiS wAy~*~
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Nov 13, 2020 20:46
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stealie72 posted:Pretty sure the EC is already obsolete because it had its chance to do its job for the first time in 226 years in 2016 yet didnt do it. Woofer posted:Theoretically to prevent people like Donald Trump from becoming president. I never said it functioned as intended. I just happen to know the intent. The ONE time the EC was supposed to step in, we got Trump.
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Nov 13, 2020 20:52
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Who do I have to bother for a gang tag, how does this stuff work?
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Nov 13, 2020 23:28
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bird food bathtub posted:Who do I have to bother for a gang tag, how does this stuff work? McNally in the Sherman’s BBQ thread.
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Nov 13, 2020 23:29
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Woofer posted:Theoretically to prevent people like Donald Trump from becoming president. I thought it was to theoretically prevent people like Barack Obama from becoming president.
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Nov 13, 2020 23:31
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stealie72 posted:Pretty sure the EC is already obsolete because it had its chance to do its job for the first time in 226 years in 2016 yet didnt do it. The Electoral College was obsolete before the ink was even dry. The original intent was that educated men could be selected by the state governments to meet and decide who would be the best President, with the second-highest vote getter becoming Vice-President, and this system immediately broke down the second people realized "what if we just select the dude who says he'll vote for the guy we actually want." In the aftermath of the first contested election, 1796, Adams (President) and Jefferson (Vice-President) couldn't stand each other, the election of 1800 featured both parties trying to game the system and accidentally throwing the election to the House. The 12th Amendment was literally written in response to how much of a shitshow those elections were, and even then the EC has featured multiple failures in the centuries since. It's a lovely system, one of the worst ideas that made it into the constitution, and any attempt to justify it is utterly laughable. God I hope it gets scrapped within our lifetimes.
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Nov 13, 2020 23:49
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The Electoral College was obsolete before the ink was even dry. The original intent was that educated men could be selected by the state governments to meet and decide who would be the best President, with the second-highest vote getter becoming Vice-President, and this system immediately broke down the second people realized "what if we just select the dude who says he'll vote for the guy we actually want." In the aftermath of the first contested election, 1796, Adams (President) and Jefferson (Vice-President) couldn't stand each other, the election of 1800 featured both parties trying to game the system and accidentally throwing the election to the House. The 12th Amendment was literally written in response to how much of a shitshow those elections were, and even then the EC has featured multiple failures in the centuries since. It's a lovely system, one of the worst ideas that made it into the constitution, and any attempt to justify it is utterly laughable. God I hope it gets scrapped within our lifetimes. Um actually it's a product of the founding fathers and therefore perfect.
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Nov 14, 2020 00:20
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DurosKlav posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact Considering the states who've said they will or might implement this, wouldn't it massively favour the republicans because there's still populous republican leaning states that'll do it the old way regardless, thus giving republicans a share of electoral votes in traditionally democratic states without giving anything up in return?
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Nov 14, 2020 00:22
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Grip it and rip it posted:Um actually it's a product of the founding fathers and therefore perfect.
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Churchill posted:Considering the states who've said they will or might implement this, wouldn't it massively favour the republicans because there's still populous republican leaning states that'll do it the old way regardless, thus giving republicans a share of electoral votes in traditionally democratic states without giving anything up in return? Not really, since Republicans would be required to win an actual popular vote election, which they haven't pulled off in nearly 40 years. The law would de facto kill off the Electoral College and probably lead to the EC being abolished as long as the compact passed the constitutional sniff check (it should, because it doesn't actually appropriate any new powers to the states that they didn't already have, it is just an agreement among states controlling the majority of EC votes to respect a National Popular Vote). It would absolutely upend the landscape though because third-party candidates would suddenly be viable contenders, as long as they can convince the largest percentage of US voters to cast ballots for them. orange juche fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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