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Biden was sharp and answered questions in depth and accurately. If your takeaway is "he got some names mixed up" you're an idiot.
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One out of two ain’t bad.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Biden was sharp and answered questions in depth and accurately. If your takeaway is "he got some names mixed up" you're an idiot. The trouble is that the debate happened and the mixups are getting more commonplace and even more ill-timed. He's always made mix-ups with the content fine - he's just making more mix-ups and having events like that debate where he no longer could express the content and froze like McConnell. The story will remain "President Putin" and "Vice President Trump". Though I suppose you could make a good ad out of that AND THEY REALLY SHOULD. Biden's running in the wrong year. He's giving great, long-form answers to a voting public with a collective mind cooked by tiktok. He's a policy wonk with good government stewardship talking to a public that wants good speakers and zingy one-liners ready for social media. edit: SOMEONE GOT MY MEMO https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1811559621791752554
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At this point all that matters is having someone who can beat Trump. Doesn't matter if Biden has an over 9000 IQ, the media has successfully painted him as a doddering old fool.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:At this point all that matters is having someone who can beat Trump. Doesn't matter if Biden has an over 9000 IQ, the media has successfully painted him as a doddering old fool. CNN has decided that the presser just didn't happen since it doesn't work in their narrative.  https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1811550389541425233 Stultus Maximus fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Jul 12, 2024 |
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do you at least get a paycheck for this slavish devotionVincent Van Goatse posted:At this point all that matters is having someone who can beat Trump. Doesn't matter if Biden has an over 9000 IQ, the media has successfully painted him as a doddering old fool. BECAUSE HE IS
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Proud Christian Mom posted:do you at least get a paycheck for this slavish devotion Don't start poo poo like that. Disagree without being a jackhole.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:At this point all that matters is having someone who can beat Trump. This is the entire premise behind replacing Biden with a more viable candidate, seeing as most of the criticism is about him more than likely failing to pull this one through. It's practically down to fear mongering at this point since he barely accomplished 28% of his promises from the 2020 campaign. Apathetic Medic fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Jul 12, 2024 |
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Jul 12, 2024 06:58
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Apathetic Medic posted:This is the entire premise behind replacing Biden with a more viable candidate, seeing as most of the criticism is about him more than likely failing to pull this one through. It's practically down to fear mongering at this point since he barely accomplished 28% of his promises from the 2020 campaign. That's exactly what I was trying to say, yes.
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Apathetic Medic posted:This is the entire premise behind replacing Biden with a more viable candidate, seeing as most of the criticism is about him more than likely failing to pull this one through. It's practically down to fear mongering at this point since he barely accomplished 28% of his promises from the 2020 campaign. Politifact’s count is funny as hell. Look at the ratings on climate change and COVID for examples.
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Apathetic Medic posted:This is the entire premise behind replacing Biden with a more viable candidate, seeing as most of the criticism is about him more than likely failing to pull this one through. It's practically down to fear mongering at this point since he barely accomplished 28% of his promises from the 2020 campaign. Who is the more viable candidate?
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PookBear posted:Tell me why I should vote for biden without referencing any republicans or saying "but trump!". biden (or his cabinet) has done a lot of really good poo poo and things are materially better than they have been as a result of those efforts PookBear posted:I'm going to vote democrat but yall are missing the entire point: no one is dragging any friends to the poll because of biden enthusiasm. this is very much the case though. there is no enthusiasm, just a drive to survive
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Stultus Maximus posted:Biden was sharp and answered questions in depth and accurately. If your takeaway is "he got some names mixed up" you're an idiot. he thinks trump is his VP
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Grip it and rip it posted:Who is the more viable candidate? I'm not a representative of the DNC, how exactly am I supposed to speak to that. I'm just agreeing with vince about the writing being on the wall with this one.
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Kith posted:this is very much the case though. there is no enthusiasm, just a drive to survive kumite kumite kumite https://youtu.be/gUNV_2AP7A8?si=LwbN7eMBjpIo_Pm- Also that's the main argument for a switch. Enthusiastic people vote and convince others to vote, as do panicked people. The trouble is that Biden's spreading apathy and apathetic voters don't turn out to vote. An additional cloud is that Donnie's basically +20 with the really infrequent voters that only show up every now and again (primarily presidentials!). PookBear posted:he thinks trump is his VP Nah, he said trump as he was describing Kamala. Joe's still got his brain in there, it's just surrounded by old and he's loving up more words than even he used to. Still can run the country, lovely candidate for running a campaign that's behind.
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PookBear posted:he thinks trump is his VP please do not post so badly an image macro from imgur can dunk on you 
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Using Trump to measure worthiness lowers the bar so significantly it nullifies all criticism of a candidate. This is the guy who had to drop out of his 1988 presidential bid because of plagiarism, let Clarence Thomas slide on a workplace sexual harassment incident off of race baiting, and got put on the presidential ticket in 2020 when they used gamesmanship to put him before other viable candidates. How hard is it to understand that people are asking for a candidate that can accomplish something and also doesn't make constant gaffes. By this kind of logic most other people could stand in his place, but won't be able to because his ego is bigger than the country's future. This dude already used up 'it's better than the alternative' in 2020. That well is dry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc Apathetic Medic fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jul 12, 2024 |
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That well is never dry. As long as there are terrible candidates, I will always vote for the least terrible, because, well, they're better than the alternative. It loving sucks, and I hate it. But that's the unfortunate reality we live in.
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Apathetic Medic posted:Using Trump to measure worthiness lowers the bar so significantly it nullifies all criticism of a candidate. This is the guy who had to drop out of his 1988 presidential bid because of plagiarism, let Clarence Thomas slide on a workplace sexual harassment incident off of race baiting, and got put on the presidential ticket in 2020 when they used gamesmanship to put him before other viable candidates. How hard is it to understand that people are asking for a candidate that can accomplish something and also doesn't make constant gaffes. By this kind of logic most other people could stand in his place, but won't be able to because his ego is bigger than the country's future. sure do wish my sense of ideological purity was bigger than the countries future, but they gonna try to literally kill me if they take power so I lack that kind of privilege.
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MonkeyFit posted:That well is never dry. as long as fascists are trying to maneuver themselves into power, it never can be dry
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Apathetic Medic posted:Using Trump to measure worthiness lowers the bar so significantly it nullifies all criticism of a candidate. This is the guy who had to drop out of his 1988 presidential bid because of plagiarism, let Clarence Thomas slide on a workplace sexual harassment incident off of race baiting, and got put on the presidential ticket in 2020 when they used gamesmanship to put him before other viable candidates. How hard is it to understand that people are asking for a candidate that can accomplish something and also doesn't make constant gaffes. By this kind of logic most other people could stand in his place, but won't be able to because his ego is bigger than the country's future. And your suggestions for the alternative who is a known name that can gain sufficient support from voters in less than 4 months is who, precisely?
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Apathetic Medic posted:I'm not a representative of the DNC, how exactly am I supposed to speak to that. I'm just agreeing with vince about the writing being on the wall with this one. Presumably when someone asks a candidate to step down they have someone in mind as a replacement because it would be self-defeating otherwise, or they think the opposition is also just fine.
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Apathetic Medic posted:I'm not a representative of the DNC, how exactly am I supposed to speak to that. I'm just agreeing with vince about the writing being on the wall with this one. Yeah lots of Americans say they want Congress to change but they all love their own representative. I want Biden to stay in. You want him replaced, but can't say by whom. Which of us has a more serious proposal for how to deal with the current political climate?
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why don't the people calling for biden to drop out instead call for convicted felon & sexual assaulter + treasonous document thief trump to drop out
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ded posted:why don't the people calling for biden to drop out instead call for convicted felon & sexual assaulter + treasonous document thief trump to drop out And sure, there's fuckwits in the media who are unduly downplaying Trump's abject unfitness in favor of highlighting Biden's own shortcomings. That's reprehensible! But it's not the whole of the skepticism toward continuing Biden's candidacy.
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Cugel the Clever posted:I don't understand why people feel like this is a useful point to make. The good-faith portion of those calling for Biden to step aside have been fighting Trump since day one and know calling for the fash shield around him to crumble isn't going to get anywhere. The argument for Biden to step aside is that someone else would better rise to the challenge and a decision sooner than later gives more runway for the new campaign to coalesce. This has nothing at all to do with bidens abilities trump is a convicted felon, convicted sexual assaulter, stole more classified information than that idiot air force kid. any single one of these things would have people calling for biden to drop out, if it was him that did these things
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I mentioned that I'm not a representative to the DNC for a reason fellas. I can't give you polling numbers or stats on who would be a viable candidate. That stuff that people here have been lampooning, like the media going out of their way to state how he should step down, are the first steps towards understanding that. It requires canvassing and campaigning to understand who would be a viable replacement. Is there something I missed here, because it sounds like you guys think that political campaigns are decided in these forums. Politically speaking a replacement candidate would be Kamala Harris, but it's not like it's the only actual option out there. poo poo's just hosed is all. Apathetic Medic fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Jul 13, 2024 |
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I wish they were decided in these forums, then we would finally, as a nation, honor Sgt. Chowdown as the hero he always was
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ded posted:trump is a convicted felon, convicted sexual assaulter, stole more classified information than that idiot air force kid. any single one of these things would have people calling for biden to drop out, if it was him that did these things Whether Biden is the best candidate to beat him, however, is a completely different debate that isn't in any way refuted by pointing at Trump. The only thing pointing at Trump is good for is reminding everyone that we need to coalesce around the strongest candidate to beat him. That may be Biden! But his performance in the campaign thus far has a lot of people questioning this.
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the same people that are saying biden should drop out should also be saying trump should drop out as well all of these news outlets talking about it skip over if trump should actually be running
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Cugel the Clever posted:He should be prosecuted for treason. No, he really shouldn't. I'm not wild about opening that can of worms up. There's a reason why nobody's been prosecuted for treason since the end of World War II.
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McNally posted:No, he really shouldn't. I'm not wild about opening that can of worms up. There's a reason why nobody's been prosecuted for treason since the end of World War II. Emotionally? The man directed an attack against Congress and broke the country's tradition of a peaceful transfer of power, with only incompetence and laziness saving the country from a much worse scenario.
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Apathetic Medic posted:poo poo's just hosed is all. Well that's not exactly a helpful position for anyone, is it.
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:Well that's not exactly a helpful position for anyone, is it. It's a recognition the situation lacks an ideal result and is more than likely going to lead to more backsliding. I may vote for a zombie president but I won't go out fighting for him in the streets.
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The New York Times once again goes to the mat for the president when it matters, in Friday’s Daily podcast.quote:Biden spoke with fluency and command about the war in Gaza, America's policy toward China, and his relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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