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Tiny Timbs posted:Bro was dissolving at every appearance he did. Money may have been pushing the position in the media but stop telling people to disbelieve their lying eyes. You've never actually spent much time around elderly people, especially those with actual, diagnosed dementia, have you.
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:You've never actually spent much time around elderly people, especially those with actual, diagnosed dementia, have you. I have, actually. Do you have a point?
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Tiny Timbs posted:I have, actually. Do you have a point? They let you out?
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Turns out, the early debate and loving up was actually a positive. If he showed up like he did for a September-October debate, holy loving gently caress. Even I couldn't defend that poo poo.Suicide Watch posted:It literally has to be Harris, given campaign funds and the previous primaries. She has enough name recognition and has real ties to the Biden administration. Still I'm getting strong glass cliff vibes with this move Kamala of 2024 isn't the Kamala of 2020, in an extremely positive way. She's been a hell of a campaigner and appears to have ditched her worst instincts and staff turnover. She also doesn't have multiple-decades of baggage, though she's also not tight with The Democrats either. Can pretty easily pick/choose on which parts of the administration's record to emphasize or ditch. As you can tell, I'm rapidly talking myself into it. The sheer comedy of the first woman president being black (pissing off Donnie) and not Hillary (pissing off her) would be worth it just for that alone.
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She's / He's with her. https://x.com/BillClinton/status/1815102085198958657 psydude posted:Republicans did Democrats a massive favor in letting Trump pick Vance as a running mate. He's basically campaigning against himself. Democrats can do a weeklong propaganda effort at the DNC on how Kamala is the best person ever and she won't spend 70 minutes talking about her Hannibal Lector endorsement.
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psydude posted:Republicans did Democrats a massive favor in letting Trump pick Vance as a running mate. He's basically campaigning against himself. I’m still not convinced Vance won’t fall back in line after he’s had his chance to stretch his legs. He didn’t have any issue recanting his “Trump will be America’s Hitler” statement once he realized the way the wind was blowing.
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AFGE Statement on President Biden's Withdrawal from 2024 Presidential Contestquote:American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) National President Everett Kelley issued the following statement after President Biden announced that he will not seek reelection in the 2024 presidential race:
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They're still trying to hit the ground running on the Harris campaign, but they've at least swapped out (one instance of) Biden's name on the donation page: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/social-bfp-july-2024-v2 Still has "$46" as a cutesy donation option. I went ahead with $47. For the first time in months, I'm actually feeling excited to donate and volunteer rather than just desperate and resigned to doing so.
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Cugel the Clever posted:For the first time in months, I'm actually feeling excited to donate and volunteer rather than just desperate and resigned to doing so. That's the #1 thing given by this whole switcheroo. Hope's back on the table (or in the coconut tree). https://www.forbes.com/sites/conorm...iden-drops-out/
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Yeah I'm not 100% sure it was the right decision, but there is relief in the decision being made and there being a path forward. To quote Charles Dickens' Sam Weller, 'It’s over, and can’t be helped, and that’s one consolation, as they always says in Turkey, ven they cuts the wrong man’s head off.' It seems like at least so far folks are mostly falling in line behind a Harris candidacy. She may not be the ideal candidate, but she's definitely sharp and doesn't appear senile.
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I enjoy it every time this woman speaks: https://x.com/jasmineforus/status/1815085938822775144
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It’s really funny to hear the “most consequential president” line when Barack Obama is right there! I saw it the other day from someone who had lived through LBJ’s term, even.
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Platystemon posted:It’s really funny to hear the “most consequential president” line when Barack Obama is right there! I mean, she probably doesn't want to count the racist backlash resulting in the Trump presidency as a consequence of Obama. In terms of policy, Biden did more progressive stuff in 4 years than Obama in 8.
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for what it's worth, it's basically a coronation: https://x.com/tammybaldwin/status/1815110809673994418 https://x.com/CaptMarkKelly/status/1815116346491084878 when swing state senators are up front with their endorsements after running away from Biden in a hurry, this thing's cooked. Convention will probably be clean.
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facialimpediment posted:for what it's worth, it's basically a coronation: Has Obama done so yet?
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OddObserver posted:Has Obama done so yet? Nope: https://x.com/BarackObama/status/1815110737095721109 But that's not a huge surprise, there's a lot of Biden resentment towards Obama lately. Probably going to take a few days so it doesn't look like he was one of the shivvers. It's an "open primary" statement though. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jul 21, 2024 |
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frankly i'm just happy that there's not going to be any more BIDEN OLD coverage anymore
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Kith posted:frankly i'm just happy that there's not going to be any more BIDEN OLD coverage anymore Oh, they'll probably do a bit more to celebrate.
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Kith posted:frankly i'm just happy that there's not going to be any more BIDEN OLD coverage anymore why, it's old news! 
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Kith posted:frankly i'm just happy that there's not going to be any more BIDEN OLD coverage anymore Weirdly, I've seen a couple voices that are upset that Biden is stepping aside concur with this bad line of reasoning.
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OddObserver posted:Oh, they'll probably do a bit more to celebrate. Yup, it’ll take a week or three to change the narrative, but at least there should be enough time to get it out of voters heads before November. Good decision, should have been made six months ago.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Stupid because they're giving us 3 months instead of 4 years. Go to school and learn to read If you want to be an rear end in a top hat do it somewhere else.
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Tiny Timbs posted:Oh so it’ll be Linda Yaccarino Think you can safely X that one off the list
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Stultus Maximus posted:In terms of policy, Biden did more progressive stuff in 4 years than Obama in 8. Yep. In online spaces that skew white dudes on the internet, this is often overlooked, because if you didn’t have kids, work for a union, suffer unemployment, low income, etc, might not have personally seen that in your wallet, but it’s true.
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Among others, the Clintons and Elizabeth Warren have endorsed Harris. So has the Congressional Black Caucus. Whitmer and Newsom have stated they will not seek the nomination. So has Shapiro, and he's outright endorsed Harris. Tennessee and Texas DNC delegates have released statements that they are pledging Harris. ...WTF Barry? What are you doing? Stultus Maximus fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jul 22, 2024 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:...WTF Barry? What are you doing? It's fine. There were A LOT of articles spelling out the Biden-Obama relationship as turning frosty, like Biden thinking Obama might've been more a part of the orchestration than he let on (more than just their personal phone call). Give it a few days. A leading snake just went off the board. https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1815168477562646858
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Stultus Maximus posted:...WTF Barry? What are you doing? I get we've all been conditioned to assume the worst and get upset about it by a couple decades of social media poisoning, but it doesn't hurt to withhold judgement until there's some actual action taken one way or another.
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Cugel the Clever posted:There's been an insistence from some quarters that this has all been a manufactured putsch by party elites. My guess is they're holding back to avoid being seen as too eager to be directing the path forward, giving Joe some grace and recognition that he's still president and the ultimate decision maker. I dunno, I feel like not endorsing Kamala comes up as more like that for me. Whatever else, she was ultimately picked by Joe Biden.
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I'll add the caveat that I'm perplexed AOC and Bernie haven't come out with endorsements for Harris yet. Wasn't the main thrust of their argument that Democrats must align on the candidate to defeat Trump, just that they thought Biden was best positioned over an alternative? AOC in particular called out party elites as trying to circumvent Harris. Surely the best way she can push back on that possibility now is through an immediate endorsement?
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Cugel the Clever posted:I'll add the caveat that I'm perplexed AOC and Bernie haven't come out with endorsements for Harris yet. Wasn't the main thrust of their argument that Democrats must align on the candidate to defeat Trump, just that they thought Biden was best positioned over an alternative? It's only been six hours.
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1815163415687573770 Also this is two years old, lol. Vincent Van Goatse posted:It's only been six hours. Yes, but a) Biden clearly has been making calls to line up the support for a while now and b) Obama did come out with a statement soon afterwards that pointedly did not mention Harris at all.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It's only been six hours. 
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jfc now I know where the clicks are coming from in articles like this ”it took 17 minutes longer for person A than person B to endorse [thing]. Our social media and body language experts weigh in.”
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NoJoe (2024) (Rev A).nes  suddenly got reminded of this nugget and had to make an updated version
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