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The Whitehouse had a revolving door for the majority of his time in office - but also the individual getting thrown through it had usually provided a laundry list of defensible reasons within the past handful of days as to why they should have been. Also, Pence was probably the only guy not related through blood or marriage that stayed the entire term. Clearly Miller/whoever is actually making the strategy calls on behalf of Diaper Don recognises that dumping the VP a bigger deal? edit: But also this Tiny posted:There are ways for trump to make vance voluntarily drop out (or cease to be a viable candidate) where he can go "drat, what a shame, so here's sarah palin!" and never have to admit making a mistake. He's spent his whole life doing that poo poo, he's not good at it but he's good at getting away with it.
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RFC2324 posted:Remember one of his original claims to fame is "YOUR FIRED!" And look at how many cabinet secretaries he went through. The vice presidency is kind of special in that, once they take office, POTUS cannot dismiss the vice president at will. But they also have little official power when they’re not breaking ties in the senate, so it’s up to presidential discretion to give them a significant role, make them eat a poo poo sandwich, or have them more or less just be on call for the traditional annual colonoscopy. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Jul 24, 2024 |
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While Trump could hypothetically dump Vance, I'm not sure he would if only because Vance is exactly who he wants: a spineless goon who will do exactly what he is told. Vance is also backed by a lot of right-wing tech ghouls like Peter Thiel, and their money is ironically going to have far more impact on the race than Vance himself likely will.
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I think if Kamala can manage to bring on someone actually popular instead of the usual "appease the other wing of the party by going with their empty suit establishment pick" candidate, having a pick like Vance opposite could make a real difference to the outcome. Of course, we're asking a lot from the Democrats to leave both feet un-shot at the same time.
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 We finally have a Democratic candidate that truly knows how to get through to millennials and zoomers alike: by making 30-year-old Simpsons references. I continue to be astounded at the fact the DNC basically toggled the "give a poo poo" switch to on for the first time in fifteen years and at how much rock-it sauce is coming out of the newly declogged tubes.
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Even if Republicans somehow block Kamala's access to Joe's war chest, Democrats have raised $250m since Sunday. https://wapo.st/4d56rea
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Don Dongington posted:I think if Kamala can manage to bring on someone actually popular instead of the usual "appease the other wing of the party by going with their empty suit establishment pick" candidate, having a pick like Vance opposite could make a real difference to the outcome. who the heck is actually popular among notable dems at present. that whole "yeah, nobody has name recognition other than Biden" wasn't exactly wrong Fetterman's rather... lost some of his appeal (although more for progressives, whom the party doesnt feel the need to court), there's no way in hell it's gonna be one of the squad, and idk who else there is. one of the governors people have been mentioning? idk that any of them is that nationally recognized, though presumably one will satisfy the "moderate-ish, has a policy track record, is white to stave off cries of 'all DEI ticket' somewhat criteria
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Qtotonibudinibudet posted:presumably one will satisfy the "moderate-ish, has a policy track record, is white to stave off cries of 'all DEI ticket' somewhat criteria I mean that's better than I'd typically have hoped for, provided they can also get up in front of people and stir up a bit of energy. Edit: Given the status quo has typically been "career senator nobody has actually heard of" with an optional side of "and the more you dig into their voting history, the less appealing they become" Don Dongington fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Jul 24, 2024 |
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Don Dongington posted:I think if Kamala can manage to bring on someone actually popular instead of the usual "appease the other wing of the party by going with their empty suit establishment pick" candidate, having a pick like Vance opposite could make a real difference to the outcome. As much as it would be my dream, I'm a bit less hopeful on Kamala going with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
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That video is at least 11 years old, so really it's only a 20 year old Simpsons reference.
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McNally posted:That video is at least 11 years old, so really it's only a 20 year old Simpsons reference. Dangit. I only noticed because one of the classic Simpsons showrunners pointed it out on Twitter today.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:As much as it would be my dream, I'm a bit less hopeful on Kamala going with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez We can all predict what would happen, and besides it'd be a massive waste of talent. Even dropping her into a cabinet position somewhere would arguably be a net loss, at least until a few more angry DSA-types are able to fight their way into safe blue seats and continue the work of "calling the gerontocracy out on their bullshit".
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Don Dongington posted:I think if Kamala can manage to bring on someone actually popular instead of the usual "appease the other wing of the party by going with their empty suit establishment pick" candidate, having a pick like Vance opposite could make a real difference to the outcome. Kamala's #1 liability is "too liberal", followed by border stuff, so probably won't get a hyper-progressive. A very positive thing is that the VP bench is deep, even in the hyperwhite category, so she won't bring on a freak. Even the empty suits have a lot in them. In fact, most of the VP candidates are focusing on just how much of a freak Vance is. Example from Minnesota: https://x.com/JoshRaby/status/1815889888207892619?t=o10YYSN5GJSsRQqxkpI3kw&s=19 Qtotonibudinibudet posted:who the heck is actually popular among notable dems at present. that whole "yeah, nobody has name recognition other than Biden" wasn't exactly wrong Throw a dart at a swing state Democratic governor and you can't really go wrong. Example from North Carolina: https://x.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1815373101313482990?t=GtUfNU_wYQ12hJSCY5rxkw&s=19
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The right is going to bite their own tongue by yelling that Harris is radical left, while simultaneously trying to depress leftist turnout by pointing to her history as a prosecutor. They need to pick a lane, but they’re not going to. They’re going to run right into the K-rail.
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I mean, I'd rather talk to a bunch of sorority members than the PM of Israel too.
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Plus, electorally speaking, its probably a good strategy to have no strong opinions on Israel/Palestine.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean, I'd rather talk to a bunch of sorority members than the PM of Israel too. Ordinarily, it's an absolute waste of time for a democratic presidential candidate to spend a single minute in the state of Indiana. https://x.com/franklinleonard/status/1815449131990872516?t=4dcaHuW91pMnq-BYTcTnPA&s=19 But activating a massive get-out-the voltron is time well spent. And keep the gently caress away from netanyahu unless it's in a private meeting (Thursday I believe for the VP).
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gently caress Netanyahu, its well past time to attach preconditions to any kind of aid provided to Israel.
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TheKingslayer posted:https://x.com/badfoxgraphics/status/1816058087825891778?s=46&t=z9kKoD6SvSexS4Ufy9E4Hg In my unfortunate experience of my dad having FOX on when I was with him, Kilmeade is like the dollar store knock off of the already gatbage opinion show hosts they have and I hope Lawrence beat his rear end off camera. e- https://x.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1815900250407616756 
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From my CE thread crosspost: quote:full self driving $45M donations by 2017 And speaking of Fox News, there appear to be Buttigieg trial balloons floating today (though I doubt the campaign is organized to float poo poo yet). Say what you want about Mayo Pete and his rat/snakelike tendencies, but the fucker can talk on Fox News.
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Michelle Obama is still the correct choice.
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facialimpediment posted:Ordinarily, it's an absolute waste of time for a democratic presidential candidate to spend a single minute in the state of Indiana.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:If we just let historically African American sorority alumni run the world all our problems would disappear. Every Delta Sigma Theta I've ever known has been a rock solid, level-headed, charitable woman that gets poo poo done. Agreed, IME African American Greek organizations generally and the sororities specifically turn out terrifyingly competent people with a strong sense of social responsibility. Every one of them I've ever met felt like they were absolutely capable of anything. Honestly if a side effect of Kamala's campaign is getting them more involved with the Democratic party then that's potentially a major win by itself.
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J.D. Vance is also skipping out on the Prime Minister’s visit.
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Mappo posted:J.D. Vance is also skipping out on the Prime Minister’s visit. https://x.com/sahilkapur/status/1816179571781423295?t=uvE3rmBEXJnN1mnBvPpChQ&s=19 And someone got the memo: https://x.com/jmart/status/1816181339147710928?t=CUXlAFun_lTbs1-VPk9W9w&s=19
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facialimpediment posted:https://x.com/sahilkapur/status/1816179571781423295?t=uvE3rmBEXJnN1mnBvPpChQ&s=19 gently caress police unions, though.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:gently caress police unions, though. Was it the Houston police union that had such an absurd contract the city had to pay for divorce attorneys?
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Props whenever a union negotiates such solid benefits
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Tiny Timbs posted:Props whenever a union negotiates such solid benefits I’m leaning towards all unions should be as powerful as police unions.
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Nystral posted:I’m leaning towards all unions should be as powerful as police unions.
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Nystral posted:I’m leaning towards all unions should be as powerful as police unions except for police unions.
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Nystral posted:I’m leaning towards all unions should be as powerful as police unions. 
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Oops, turns out the potential First Dude's ex is on good terms with Kamala https://x.com/katierogers/status/1816255856121393586?t=cW6BSJF3Ps-AnVaWo0RnMQ&s=19 dang, there goes the childless cat lady attack (nah it won't stop anything)
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Good semi-final speech by Joe, it's officially joever and it's nice to no longer worry about speech quality anymore!
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i wanna hear the conversations during prep time with the camera people "can we do anything about whatever's goin on with the tie and the camera with the weird scanline pattern? no? okay gently caress it" also i wanted at least one malarkey mention
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facialimpediment posted:Good semi-final speech by Joe, it's officially joever and it's nice to no longer worry about speech quality anymore! 
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