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orange juche posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbmlTaQyW5Y It's gonna be real funny how racist they are even when they're actively trying to not be racist. Like 'black people will love trump because he's a criminal now too!' poo poo.
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facialimpediment posted:I'm still not sick of it, but that's usually a sign that there's only a few more days left to the gag. Look at this idiot saying we're done. What a complete complete loving moron. https://x.com/ampol_moment/status/1759265374439116874?t=xmYOwHcHJknAVjpQ6LnX-A&s=19 https://x.com/torriangray/status/1816822806581248267?t=PBC1_wCNyGruYUTSSFN7Tw&s=19 Edit: oh dear god https://x.com/JasonKirk_fyi/status/1816867292636209616?t=SClYCLyWBGJZCo1JUKVVGw&s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jul 26, 2024 |
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facialimpediment posted:Contain has been completely, utterly lost: couchfucking made Colbert: final day will be someone coming forward with some semen covered couch from a frat house and claiming it is vance's old college couch and they can spend two days figuring out how to deny that without having to say 'not my semen covered couch' in the process
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Vortex Street posted:https://x.com/bennetthaselton/status/1816867335329948024?s=46&t=oRCnrb4msSDeZI7cDdUq5A 
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Just wait until Vance turns on the rizz https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1816677033423892770
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"If JD Vance didn't gently caress a couch then why do I keep insisting he did?" is some hilarious turnabout for the post-factual era that Republicans have been working so hard to establish.
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We just need Vance to deny the rumor on national television, and we can put this whole thing behind us.
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Have some cokehead DJTJr and his best bro Vance https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1816607972803371009
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Linking because it's a big batch, but more data that the swap-out worked and it's tied. https://x.com/umichvoter/status/1816957417835356254?t=j94stFGwZJMLsCfsjAow3w&s=19 I've seen other polling that basically says the same thing - Kamala's hitting Joe's highest numbers right now and it's all margin of error poo poo. Not much more to it than that, equally winnable by either side, arguably with way, way more Kamala upside.
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Speaking of swing states: https://x.com/NewsWire_US/status/1816825686004219946?t=gO-hA5ti3pQDhSIhVeVduw&s=19 Asking rhetorically, is this bad? 
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facialimpediment posted:Linking because it's a big batch, but more data that the swap-out worked and it's tied. The “Harris Honeymoon” effect. Hopefully they settle higher than Joe but I don’t think they’ll remain this high until November. I believe that most voters are still in the imprinting stage of the Harris candidacy, which will end eventually as they get to know her better and where she stands on various issues, and therefore result in shedding some voters as a result.
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Nystral posted:The “Harris Honeymoon” effect. Hopefully they settle higher than Joe but I don’t think they’ll remain this high until November. I believe that most voters are still in the imprinting stage of the Harris candidacy, which will end eventually as they get to know her better and where she stands on various issues, and therefore result in shedding some voters as a result. Absolutely true - but Donnie's just coming out of getting shot and the RNC. He just wussed out of a September debate and I'm not aware of a massive groundswell of money and volunteers on Donnie's side. And Kamala still has the VP announcement and DNC coming up. More typically-positive events on Kamala's calendar (at least two) versus Donnie (zero). Plenty of room for both to shed voters as various effects wear off! And now it's the Republican side infighting with no way out (Democrats had a way out and used it!) https://x.com/willsommer/status/1816976486747734383?t=kexbTsZQfowLZg78r5hhnQ&s=19
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Nystral posted:The “Harris Honeymoon” effect. Hopefully they settle higher than Joe but I don’t think they’ll remain this high until November. I believe that most voters are still in the imprinting stage of the Harris candidacy, which will end eventually as they get to know her better and where she stands on various issues, and therefore result in shedding some voters as a result.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Why do you think this can only go down as she campaigns? Her ability to get out there and vigorously sell a forward-looking message is a key difference from Biden. I'd guess she stands to bring out a bunch of low-info voters who were generically dissatisfied with Biden. This, she's got the potential to just drive out voters. I don't think she's going to have less support as more money is spent on driving turn out.
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facialimpediment posted:Absolutely true - but Donnie's just coming out of getting shot and the RNC. He just wussed out of a September debate and I'm not aware of a massive groundswell of money and volunteers on Donnie's side. And Kamala still has the VP announcement and DNC coming up. More typically-positive events on Kamala's calendar (at least two) versus Donnie (zero). Plenty of room for both to shed voters as various effects wear off! A rare hit from the Bee.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Speaking of swing states: yes, but because state parties generally want to be spending money as fast as it comes in. that reads as an incompetently high balance to me.
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facialimpediment posted:Absolutely true - but Donnie's just coming out of getting shot and the RNC. He just wussed out of a September debate and I'm not aware of a massive groundswell of money and volunteers on Donnie's side. And Kamala still has the VP announcement and DNC coming up. More typically-positive events on Kamala's calendar (at least two) versus Donnie (zero). Plenty of room for both to shed voters as various effects wear off! I also feel like the couchfucker is helping solidify Trump's ceiling.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Why do you think this can only go down as she campaigns? Her ability to get out there and vigorously sell a forward-looking message is a key difference from Biden. I'd guess she stands to bring out a bunch of low-info voters who were generically dissatisfied with Biden. Because at the end of the day Harris the candidate will crystallize in voters minds like Biden and Trump already are and some voters will opt to choose someone else or not vote. We’ve see this in many cycles in the past where a candidate is hot and polls well then fades because of one reason or another. As noted above there are two more potentially positive boosts coming for Harris with the VP pick to help secure a state, and the formal nomination. But these bumps are ephemeral, and ultimately only imply that we’re going to see something closer to a 2020 election vs a 2012 election.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I also feel like the couchfucker is helping solidify Trump's ceiling. He's feeling the need to clarify earlier comments, like the Cat lady one. He's already done. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump ditches him.
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Nystral posted:Because at the end of the day Harris the candidate will crystallize in voters minds like Biden and Trump already are and some voters will opt to choose someone else or not vote. good point, like that time in 2016 all polling indicated Hilary was going to win. thank you for words about how we shouldn't think Harris can drive voter turnout or whatever. drat, I was excited, but now I know better. past results dictate what happens in the future. wow.
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https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490 He said the quiet part out loud regarding what he and the Republicans would very much like to happen.
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Donnie's also got a big problem that was obscured by Biden Old. Donnie's lost his juice. https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1816998734552510629?t=s8wiG7rUsfUuLy_-UlbDXw&s=19 And his trusty racism dial is starting to give him force feedback shocks https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1817001282432864587?t=BFmlAXximgjKaEZoELNS4g&s=19 It appears that the Kamala frame is that the Republican ticket is old and weird. I don't think that shifts any voters towards Republicans! The Republican frame is that Kamala is anti-Israel, a DEI hire, and too liberal. That's doing Kamala's job for her with young voters!
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one more… https://x.com/dwade/status/1816543395059302902?s=46&t=oRCnrb4msSDeZI7cDdUq5A
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maffew buildings posted:good point, like that time in 2016 all polling indicated Hilary was going to win. thank you for words about how we shouldn't think Harris can drive voter turnout or whatever. drat, I was excited, but now I know better. past results dictate what happens in the future. wow. Sorry I’m a pessimist? I try and keep a level of detachment when considering these things. Just kind of how I’m wired. The good news is that Harris is polling significantly better than Biden. The bad news is that her numbers will likely retreat. But the polling results in 85% of the states won’t matter. This election will likely come down to just a few states - AZ, MI, MN, NV, PA, WI, and to a lesser extent GA. Of those key states, the single most important state is Pennsylvania. Harris likely makes that a Democratic win. If she can secure Pennsylvania she can then win one of the others and basically secure the victory. Before Biden MI and MN were in danger and WI, NV, and AZ were likely lost. GA wasn’t really even in play, Harris has changed all of this. By bringing GA back into play, there is a very reasonable chance she can secure another massive voter turnout in the greater ATL area and have a win there like Warnock and Ossif rode to victory in 2020 / 2022. What I was trying to convey is that we’re seeing temporarily high polling numbers that will likely settle lower than they are now. This is expected and will likely still be better than Biden. Harris being the nominee is unequivocally A VERY GOOD THING, I just don’t want to see panic when things slip in a few weeks.
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Cythereal posted:https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490 Oh come the gently caress on In a sane world that would get him run out of the race Why can't that be our timeline
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Cugel the Clever posted:Why do you think this can only go down as she campaigns? Her ability to get out there and vigorously sell a forward-looking message is a key difference from Biden. I'd guess she stands to bring out a bunch of low-info voters who were generically dissatisfied with Biden. I mean this is it, actually. When she gets in front of a group of people and starts pushing the policy that they plan on running those 'generic dissatisfactions' will still be apparent in many ways. Here's an article from a left leaning political magazine https://prospect.org/politics/2024-01-22-problems-with-biden/ quote:There are, I think, three chief obstacles that stand between Biden and re-election: the public’s perception of the economy, the public’s perception of immigration, and Biden’s own weaknesses as an advocate for his policies and his presidency. So going forward with the campaign you have to consider if Kamala Harris will set a different precedent than Biden with: - The economy under a democratic leadership - The enforcement of immigration policy - The strength of Kamala Harris to keep her promises and maintain order during her presidency It's kind of tiresome to hear from so many people on this forum handwaving away any kind of doubt in a candidate. It's not unreasonable, seeing as most of the people here prefer to avoid a Trump presidency at any cost. Consider not everyone is willing to have the cost, maybe don't simplify the argument against something you want into people being ignorant. The left, as in socialists and communists, have not had a leg in the race for decades. It's not just know-nothing voters out there, many people fail to see how the candidates actually work towards an agenda that applies to them. It's why the democratic party runs on a platform based in fear of the other party. I don't know how to tell you all this, but the democrats are in a beneficial relationship with the republican party, and there is no need for them to do away with how they handle business. It's extremely advantageous for them politically to be contrasted with their policies. They practically don't need to promise or accomplish poo poo. Something that has lead to the current situation. --- Edit: Don't get me wrong, people are more hopeful with her as the candidate in Joe Biden's place. All of the smear campaigns they were running were based on his persona, and now all they can do is attack her by proxy. It's a prosecutor vs a felon, it's a good angle to attack from. It just peeves me when people refuse to see the harshness of reality because of the fear of a poor outcome. Apathetic Medic fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Jul 27, 2024 |
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Nystral posted:Harris being the nominee is unequivocally A VERY GOOD THING, I just don’t want to see panic when things slip in a few weeks. All very fair! Kamala is probably best positioned to stop that inevitable bedwetting as well. Plus, competitive down-ballot candidates are happy to be with her, so lots of good vibes even if the polls turn more icky. Arrath posted:Oh come the gently caress on He's riffed on this poo poo before - "vote for me this election then I don't care if you ever vote again" is his usual message. But to quote popehat: "I mean realistically he’s not confessing to wanting a monarchy he’s just completely incoherent and his brain works like a pinball machine" Though you're still right! Edit: I also agree with this comment - "College courses will be taught on the press strategy Kamala Harris’ team cooked up this week" https://x.com/Jemsinger/status/1817011879610372365 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jul 27, 2024 |
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Apathetic Medic posted:The left, as in socialists and communists, have not had a leg in the race for decades. It's not just know-nothing voters out there, many people fail to see how the candidates actually work towards an agenda that applies to them. It's why the democratic party runs on a platform based in fear of the other party. I don't know how to tell you all this, but the democrats are in a beneficial relationship with the republican party, and there is no need for them to do away with how they handle business. It's extremely advantageous for them politically to be contrasted with their policies. They practically don't need to promise or accomplish poo poo. Something that has lead to the current situation. Internet Leftists: "Here's a list of policies we want!" *Biden delivers several of said policies* Internet Leftists: "Biden has done literally nothing."
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psydude posted:Internet Leftists: "Here's a list of policies we want!" I said this before, but he's only delivered on approx. 30% of his promises. But hey, go off and paint everyone you disagree with as a moron. Apathetic Medic fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jul 27, 2024 |
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Apathetic Medic posted:I said this to you before, but he's only delivered on approx. 30% of his promises. Your choice to ignore that. 30% of something is better than 100% of nothing. And managing to accomplish 1/3 of his stated policy goals feels like a pretty remarkable achievement in an era where Republicans refuse to even vote on their own immigration bill to avoid giving him a win. E: I didn't call you a moron. I'm pointing out that the "Biden did nothing!" line ignores reality. psydude fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jul 27, 2024 |
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psydude posted:30% of something is better than 100% of nothing. And managing to accomplish 1/3 of his stated policy goals feels like a pretty remarkable achievement in an era where Republicans refuse to even vote on their own immigration bill to avoid giving him a win. Yeah, and that's why I said: quote:It's extremely advantageous for them politically to be contrasted with their policies. They practically don't need to promise or accomplish poo poo. Something that has lead to the current situation. What is it about this statement that is confusing you?
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Apathetic Medic posted:Yeah, and that's why I said: What's confusing is that - by your own admission - he DID accomplish poo poo, and yet you're saying he didn't.
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Not needing to do something is not equivalent to not having done something. I hope that's understandable? The idea that America is actually a one-party state is not a new idea. Noam Chomsky, Christopher Hitchens, and Julius Nyerere are all quoted for saying as much. If you don't know who those people are I would recommend reading some of their literature! Might help you with your confusion of what you believe an 'internet leftist' is and what I'm referring to, which is actual socialists, communists, and anti-colonialists. You know, leftists. not Hitchens, gently caress him
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Apathetic Medic posted:I said this to you before, but he's only delivered on approx. 30% of his promises. Your choice to ignore that. For another, measuring this in percentages is nonsensical, as if one delivered policy is weighted equally to any other. Is the huge win of getting America out of Afghanistan balanced out by the stalled agenda to deliver broadband Internet to rural communities? Depends on your priorities, but anyone with a brain is going to put the former ahead of the latter. Apathetic Medic posted:The idea that America is actually a one-party state is not a new idea. Noam Chomsky, Christopher Hitchens, and Julius Nyerere are all quoted for saying as much. 
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Well the entirety of the American population doesn't have the brain trust of the Something Awful forums to sway their opinions, now do they?
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Apathetic Medic posted:Not needing to do something is not equivalent to not having done something. I hope that's understandable? Biden campaigned on policy positions in 2020. He was able to get several of them passed, including the IRA, which was the Green New Deal - a piece of legislation conceived of by groups like the DSA - remarketed in a way that appealed to a broader group of people. What continues to perplex me is the refusal of leftists to acknowledge and - and most importantly internalize how - they got the win. They complain about being ignored, and yet Democrats passed a signature piece of leftist legislation. Instead of figuring out how to repeat that success, they decide that it's not worth participating because why bother settling for some of what they want.
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Biden did not deliver on the one thing that matters - Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism. SAD!
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psydude posted:Biden campaigned on policy positions in 2020. He was able to get several of them passed, including the IRA, which was the Green New Deal - a piece of legislation conceived of by groups like the DSA - remarketed in a way that appealed to a broader group of people. I don't understand what you mean. The Green New Deal was already below the necessary thresholds to have a meaningful impact on the issues it's designed to engage in. Being appealing to a broader group of people is something I would really like you to expand on as well. My understanding of the green new deal is that it is a policy that has been pushed for 18 years, (with the original target for full implementation being 2030), and it's only gotten as far as government officials recognizing the dangers of climate change. It hasn't even passed as a policy, it's just a resolution at this point. If you have any information to educate me with, I would love to see it! Also, I haven't heard people in leftist circles describe their feelings on the green new deal the way you describe. Are there sources for those statements, or is it just a summary of how you have assessed those people feeling? If you are referring to how climate activists are responding to the lack of action in the United States government to address climate change, I think you'll find that they have a very good reason to be upset! Edit: It's fine actually, I'll be checking out of this thread now. No need to be in a place that is designed to mock outside opinions. Apathetic Medic fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jul 27, 2024 |
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