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Apathetic Medic posted:Edit: It's fine actually, I'll be checking out of this thread now. No need to be in a place that is designed to mock outside opinions. Straw manning the left while simultaneously calling the left a circular firing squad is a time honored tradition in these threads at this point. The one thing I don't like about this thread/the current events thread.
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Vance’s granny was less of a regressive than he is.https://www.businessinsider.com/jd-vance-convinced-himself-gay-hillbilly-elegy-trump-vp-2024-7 posted:Vance, now former President Donald Trump's vice presidential nominee, recounted the tale in his 2016 autobiography as he discussed his grandmother's relatively tolerant approach when it came to Christian teachings.
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ZombieApostate posted:Straw manning the left while simultaneously calling the left a circular firing squad is a time honored tradition in these threads at this point. The one thing I don't like about this thread/the current events thread. If someone wants to offer the extremely unoriginal take that Biden has done nothing, then it's fair to ask them to explain their position by responding with an extremely unoriginal take about leftist circular firing squads. But I'll admit that it took a lot of effort not to post something mean when they invoked the freshman year Poli Sci reading list. psydude fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Jul 27, 2024 |
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Apathetic Medic posted:I said this before, but he's only delivered on approx. 30% of his promises. But hey, go off and paint everyone you disagree with as a moron. Holy poo poo he’s delivered on 30% of his promises?
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Apathetic Medic posted:Not needing to do something is not equivalent to not having done something. I hope that's understandable? Are you really citing Julius Nyere to describe politics in the US in 20 loving 24.
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Platystemon posted:Vance’s granny was less of a regressive than he is. That’s the most “and everyone stood up and clapped” thing in that book that didn’t happen. And what grandma is talking about out sucking dicks to a 9 year old the groomers are coming from inside the book
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Tired: VP Kamala Harris wants to defund the police Wired: My VP nominee JD Vance hates the police https://x.com/ElectProject/status/1817204209701224652?t=qNKI3hu7vzDCbXWjAbqWQg&s=19 Inspired: my photo editor hates JD Vance https://x.com/Patrici82941571/status/1817211211554890146?t=14CzN74kXk-4W0AU2mHd3A&s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jul 27, 2024 |
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facialimpediment posted:Tired: VP Kamala Harris wants to defund the police Turns out he’s a stopped clock. Besides being intersectional and interspecies sexual he’s really gonna going for the fridge right wing cop hating vote.
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Hot drat, they really are running the "these fuckers are weird" strategy. https://x.com/KThomasDC/status/1817277864418353292?t=nHfmgEcKlAx6wa6GEjsGxw&s=19 btw, burnt monkey testicles https://x.com/meiselasb/status/1817272512625119580?t=z2jcQN6o2pxliNs_N2mzaQ&s=19
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lol at the single party suggestion. There was perhaps a single political party from the end of WWII through the 1980s. Today we have the Dems and the relatively new American Fascist party. If you can't tell the difference between the two you likely have some kind of serious head wound.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG2rU76HvIE Bro, what the gently caress, Trump is losing in loving The Villages in Florida, dude if you've lost The Villages you are hosed. orange juche fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Jul 28, 2024 |
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orange juche posted:Bro, what the gently caress, Trump is losing in loving The Villages in Florida, dude if you've lost The Villages you are hosed. It's not really that Donnie is losing / will lose The Villages (it's like Trump +40 and there were past blue streaks with The Villages in videos like that). But you can clearly draw the conclusion that the switcheroo worked and Democrats everywhere are fired the gently caress up. It's a lot like this: https://x.com/PhillipJerez/status/1816985595614265352 Does this mean Kamala could win Florida, even with an abortion amendment on the ballot there? Meh, I'm not really convinced. But it'll sure make the state closer, maybe matter downballot, and exactly why swing state downballoters want rallytime with Kamala when they were SPRINTING from Joe. And Kamala now has the money to take fliers on state organizations. Edit: Oh and pollsters were having trouble modelling turnout as it was, since Donnie's voters are trending as low propensity. Not many low-propensity voters on the Democratic side right now.
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Florida is not a swing state, Florida will not be a swing state until the state Democratic party is burned to the ground and rebuilt. Still if you have the resources it's fine to force the Republicans to defend. If you have the resources.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Florida is not a swing state, Florida will not be a swing state until the state Democratic party is burned to the ground and rebuilt. Cross out Florida and write in Texas and it is the same
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Stultus Maximus posted:Florida is not a swing state, Florida will not be a swing state until the state Democratic party is burned to the ground and rebuilt. Oh yeah, no, Florida's solidly red, but still, having Democratic rallies in the heart of Trumpland probably gets hair furor in a sweat.
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I feel the resources would be better spent in winnable states like GA, PA, AZ, WI, and NV vs 2600 people in Florida. Hell throw money at NC instead of FL and it’s retirees.
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Florida also has an abortion amendment on the ballot and a not-lovely Senate candidate, so poo poo, why not? So long as they don't go crazy with their investment it's a low-risk, high-reward strategy.
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Nystral posted:I feel the resources would be better spent in winnable states like GA, PA, AZ, WI, and NV vs 2600 people in Florida. Hell throw money at NC instead of FL and it’s retirees. My understanding is that I'm overselling Kamala's investment into the Florida thing. It appears to be pre-existing field offices and a shitload of unpaid volunteers coming in and wanting to do poo poo. Can't really move them to other states, unless they're calling for turnout/donations to people in other states. Though for the same reasons I'm skeptical about polling nowadays, I'm equally skeptical that phone banking stuff can actually contact real, live voters much anymore.
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florida has 22 million people in it, third biggest state. that's not nothing. kamala pulled in over $100M in fundraising in the last few days alone, so as long as she's not going overboard, i think some money in florida is well-spent. in today's connected age, people in florida are gonna talk to other people, and it *really* helps the blue in florida feel like they're not getting totally ignored in a deep red state. they might not win it, but if it can push any downticket races to a W... speaking of, there's been a surge of volunteers in FL quote:Originally Published: July 26, 2024 at 4:48 p.m.
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Zamujasa posted:florida has 22 million people in it, third biggest state. that's not nothing. 7000 new ground game volunteers is definitely notable. Depends on whether the Florida Democratic org can get its head out of its rear end though.
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Again, I do not believe in polling much nowadays. While the mathematics are sound, I just don't think sample weighting and creative interviewing methods can overcome the extreme response rate problems. But the people they are getting are shifting in ways I've never really heard of before. https://x.com/billscher/status/1817551523846537518?t=HDQ9r6lvDHX7n9ozlLbC4w&s=19 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris-sees-boost-favorability-after-biden-drops-race/story?id=112306763 quote:The vice president's favorability rating has jumped to 43%, with an unfavorability rating of 42%, according to the ABC News/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos' KnowledgePanel. In an ABC News/Ipsos poll released a week ago, Harris’ favorability rating was 35%, while 46% viewed her unfavorability. It's on the table that Democrats made the best political move in modern history and that's just fuckin astounding to me. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jul 28, 2024 |
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What should really astound you is that a politician voluntarily gave up a chance to remain in power.
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Coasterphreak posted:What should really astound you is that a politician voluntarily gave up a chance to remain in power. I'd say it's unprecedented, but it's actually happened twice before in US history. First with Washington, then with TR, though he later regretted it when Taft showed his true colors. Still, I can't help myself but be impressed, and I am not one to give any establishment politician even the slightest benefit of the doubt. If Trump loses this one, he's done. That doesn't mean the threat he represents is over. Far from it, but the fascists and neo Confederates who rallied around him are going to have to find a figurehead that isn't as deeply off-putting as most of their rank and file are. Of course, that's only if Trump loses.
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Coasterphreak posted:What should really astound you is that a politician voluntarily gave up a chance to remain in power. Yeah, especially how tons of people who were checked out now have a reason to be engaged. It’s interesting how I’ve heard no good arguments that in retrospect Biden should have stayed, other than some bad faith columnists who also insist Harris needs to stop firing up the base & giving down ballot candidates relief & instead wait for an open convention.
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Coasterphreak posted:What should really astound you is that a politician voluntarily gave up a chance to remain in power. The ghost of Cincinnatus returns every now and then to possess a president.
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I had been ridin' with Biden for so long because even though it seemed headed for ruin, I could not in a million years believe that the Democrats wouldn't gently caress up a replacement even worse.
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A.o.D. posted:If Trump loses this one, he's done. That doesn't mean the threat he represents is over. Far from it, but the fascists and neo Confederates who rallied around him are going to have to find a figurehead that isn't as deeply off-putting as most of their rank and file are. Of course, that's only if Trump loses. If Trump loses, he will attempt to run again. He's not going to give up his position as head of the GOP; he won't appoint an heir and then calmly step aside. I don't expect his base to automatically leave him because he lost again, he will claim a rigged election just like last time. Trump isn't going away until he falls over dead, and then there will be a massive power vacuum in the republican party because no one can match his charisma.
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Mappo posted:If Trump loses, he will attempt to run again. He's not going to give up his position as head of the GOP; he won't appoint an heir and then calmly step aside. I don't expect his base to automatically leave him because he lost again, he will claim a rigged election just like last time. Trump isn't going away until he falls over dead, and then there will be a massive power vacuum in the republican party because no one can match his charisma. If he doesn't get elected, SOMETHING is going to stick in the courts. And he will be what? 81-82 next presidential election cycle?
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The GoP has done a better job of the Democrats at cultivating a stable of Gen X and millenial second-tier leaders, but none of them commands the attention or fealty that Trump does while simultaneously being extremely offputting. His son might attempt to step in to the power vacuum once he's gone, but he's got the same issues.
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Flikken posted:If he doesn't get elected, SOMETHING is going to stick in the courts. And he will be what? 81-82 next presidential election cycle? Whatever sticks in the court, he will appeal to the Supreme Court, which will rule on presidential immunity. The Republican party and its donor base will fund all of his legal fees. Trump will still be campaigning in his 80s so long as he still can; he won't give up power until he falls over dead.
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Mappo posted:If Trump loses, he will attempt to run again. He's not going to give up his position as head of the GOP; he won't appoint an heir and then calmly step aside. I don't expect his base to automatically leave him because he lost again, he will claim a rigged election just like last time. Trump isn't going away until he falls over dead, and then there will be a massive power vacuum in the republican party because no one can match his charisma. I didn't mean to imply that he'd fade into the sunset. No, the man is too in love with himself. If he loses 2024, he'll immediately start campaigning for 2028. What I mean is that his viability as a candidate will come to an end if he loses this October.
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If Trump loses, I'd be very surprised if hos health issues didn't catch up to him before the next election. Dude eats like poo poo and does no real exercise. And the documents case against him is actually about as solid as they come. Do I think he'd see jail time? No, but only because I would expect him to have a stress induced heart attack before then.
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MonkeyFit posted:If Trump loses, I'd be very surprised if hos health issues didn't catch up to him before the next election. Dude eats like poo poo and does no real exercise. And the documents case against him is actually about as solid as they come. Do I think he'd see jail time? No, but only because I would expect him to have a stress induced heart attack before then. https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/351120640180355072?t=FZNsLJB8TAOPnSYGR_fEJg&s=19
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