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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Gen. Ripper posted:

UPDATE: Right-wingers are now insinuating Walz hosed his dog. Very normal etc.

https://x.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1820909246994694450

This is gonna end up being 100% projection by the end of the year.

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Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Terrifying Effigies posted:

Just six weeks ago it was Joe, to this. Goddamn.

Walz is going to eat JV (lol) Vance alive if they ever get to a debate stage.

It was Joe two and a half weeks ago. They've literally compressed an entire year-long campaign process into half a month. It's loving unreal.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
it's loving wild seeing establishment, mainstream dems on the attack like this. i love it.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Wingnut Ninja posted:

It was Joe two and a half weeks ago.

:catstare: *rapidly counting on fingers* gently caress

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

nullandvoid posted:

Is there a difference between this and a Command Sergeant Major?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/06/tim-walz-military-career-national-guard/74685414007/

"Walz served in the military for 24 years, enlisting in the Nebraska National Guard at 17 in 1981 and then transferring to the Minnesota National Guard in 1996. He retired in 2005 to begin his successful run for the U.S. House, representing Minnesota as command sergeant major, among the highest ranks for enlisted soldiers. His battalion went on to deploy to Iraq shortly after Walz's retirement."

A Sergeant Major and a Command Sergeant Major are the same pay grade, but a Command Sergeant Major is in a leadership role as the highest ranking enlisted person in a unit above company level, while a Sergeant Major is in some other senior role. Referring to a CSM as "Sergeant Major" is correct under most circumstances.

Do not under any circumstances refer to a First Sergeant as a Master Sergeant.

A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Aug 6, 2024

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

The man is a living embodiment of a dad joke and I cannot get enough of it.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Madurai posted:

I feel like someone should have taken the Obama Hope poster format and done one for Walz that says Ope by now
The internet has your back.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 27, 2008

Brute Squad posted:

(not my pic)



Hell yes, time to replace the Hogg with the Dogg

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

DEER CRACKERS

I object to the innuendo.

Vance would never bring his partner to orgasm.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Yeah it’s wild how upbeat people are, can’t believe the plan was Biden, & Harris was an afterthought. Joe’s early debate idea was spectacularly good.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1820971860550406322?t=DQs5dPbeAAAzr61FYuXnDw&s=19

woooof

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 28, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


I love Harris in the background watching Walz, there seems to be a like quiet sense of relief in her face like 'okay I think I did the right thing, this is gonna be fine.' I'm sure trying to make the VP decision over the past few days/weeks has been stressful af on top of the whole 'oops guess I'm running for president now.'

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

DEER CRACKERS
Do you think that they rush printed the graphics or is there a HARRIS–SHAPIRO banner out there that’s about to become shop rags?

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

A.o.D. posted:

A Sergeant Major and a Command Sergeant Major are the same pay grade, but a Command Sergeant Major is in a leadership role as the highest ranking enlisted person in a unit above company level, while a Sergeant Major is in some other senior role. Referring to a CSM as "Sergeant Major" is correct under most circumstances.

Do not under any circumstances refer to a First Sergeant as a Master Sergeant.

1) thank you sincerely for the detailed information. It clarifies quite a bit.

2) My First Shirt at Vandenberg was the coolest SNCO (who was also an instructor in basic) that I'd ever met. Never once would I have considered referring to him as something else other than 'First Shirt'.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Platystemon posted:

Do you think that they rush printed the graphics or is there a HARRIS–SHAPIRO banner out there that’s about to become shop rags?

the firm "its shapiro" rumors over the weekend were probably triggered by them getting both walz and shapiro stuff ready

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 20, 2006

Platystemon posted:

Do you think that they rush printed the graphics or is there a HARRIS–SHAPIRO banner out there that’s about to become shop rags?

I’m guessing a mad rush. I heard an interview with Jake Tapper and some VP Harris surrogate about the decision. Apparently in the interview for VP, Shapiro was making demands and I quote “giving off main character energy” to the point that Harris was turned off. Walz apparently was just saying he’d love to do good for the country with her. Seems like Shapiro doesn’t know how to turn off his ambition and play second fiddle. He must have missed that upgrade in the Democratic position factory, since even Buttigeig can play support.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Thank you, Johnny Hockey.

This defensive coordinator was insane enough to send the house on first down and drat it, if he didn't have a corner annihilate the quarterback and scoop 'n score for his efforts.

"Did you see what I did there?" gently caress me, I want this guy to debate TRUMP.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

I’m guessing a mad rush. I heard an interview with Jake Tapper and some VP Harris surrogate about the decision. Apparently in the interview for VP, Shapiro was making demands and I quote “giving off main character energy” to the point that Harris was turned off. Walz apparently was just saying he’d love to do good for the country with her. Seems like Shapiro doesn’t know how to turn off his ambition and play second fiddle. He must have missed that upgrade in the Democratic position factory, since even Buttigeig can play support.

I am kinda curious as to how particularly ambitious people deal with vice presidency... On one hand, VP is the shortcut to nomination for President. On the other, it's 4-8 years of going to all the events that are too unimportant for the President to deal with.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
I'm finally watching the rally (https://www.youtube.com/live/iRsE3LvSZUI?si=5zsQRw_uPQ2uTccj) and the key takeaway 15 minutes in is that everyone involved is having the loving time of their lives.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


I am actually relieved that Shapiro is gonna stay governor for a while. I've spent enough time in the state house to know he is at least keeping that system stable. I've heard some heinous poo poo in there.

The republican base tried real hard once Wolfe hit term limits and they've mostly shut up since publicly.

SquirrelyPSU fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Aug 7, 2024

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005


Ursine gear Axii Geralt is a dogshit build, I can see it

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

I’m guessing a mad rush. I heard an interview with Jake Tapper and some VP Harris surrogate about the decision. Apparently in the interview for VP, Shapiro was making demands and I quote “giving off main character energy” to the point that Harris was turned off. Walz apparently was just saying he’d love to do good for the country with her. Seems like Shapiro doesn’t know how to turn off his ambition and play second fiddle. He must have missed that upgrade in the Democratic position factory, since even Buttigeig can play support.

An additional big contributor wasn't Gaza, but unions. The UAW and lots of other unions are Shapiro-skeptics because of the school vouchers, while Walz has walked picket lines. That kind of thing will break a tie.

Flikken
Oct 22, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

nullandvoid posted:

Is there a difference between this and a Command Sergeant Major?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/06/tim-walz-military-career-national-guard/74685414007/

"Walz served in the military for 24 years, enlisting in the Nebraska National Guard at 17 in 1981 and then transferring to the Minnesota National Guard in 1996. He retired in 2005 to begin his successful run for the U.S. House, representing Minnesota as command sergeant major, among the highest ranks for enlisted soldiers. His battalion went on to deploy to Iraq shortly after Walz's retirement."

He had the top enlisted slot in a battalion or higher organization

Suicide Watch
Sep 8, 2009

McNally posted:

wtf do you think a career NCO is?

Yeah I (somewhat) know. My point in mentioning them was, there are so few enlisted elected or cabinet senior officials to begin with. Chuck Hagel as SecDef already was an anomaly.


Apparently Tim Walz is a huge data nerd, here he is giving a talk for the people who make ArcGIS this year.
Link to talk https://mediaspace.esri.com/media/t/1_d2sqkrju

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/08/06/former-geography-teacher-tim-walz-is-really-into-maps/ posted:

Walz said he was an early adopter of GIS software in the 1990s, using it, among other things, to teach high school students about the Holocaust.

He had his students build maps of the contemporary world using different layers of data that scholars believed could factor into modern-day genocides. “They started looking at food insecurity, potential drought, just like the UN was doing around famine early warning,” Walz said.

In 1993, he asked his sophomores where they thought the next genocide might happen, based on the geographic data. They pinpointed Rwanda. The following year, the Rwandan Genocide occurred. The New York Times interviewed some of the students involved in the project in 2008, when Walz was a U.S. congressman.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Hey gang, so I went back to the Bad Site(TM) instead of Bluesky to see how they were reacting and laughed at the current attack against Walz' service. Apparently because he retired at 24 YOS instead of going to Iraq, that makes him a loser and abandoning his folks. I've had to explain to relative and non-military folks that everyone in the service, short of your Grace Hoppers or Hyman Rickovers, is replaceable usually have a close enough replacement stepup and get the job done

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Thank you, Johnny Hockey.
What kind of punishment does a senior NCO in the Guard get for a DUI on the military side?

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

CBJSprague24 posted:

What kind of punishment does a senior NCO in the Guard get for a DUI on the military side?

I found something that says his DUI was in 1995, which seems to predate his enlistment date.

Archived:
https://archive.ph/tJO0H

Live:
https://www.postbulletin.com/news/deafness-a-factor-in-1995-walz-arrest

I am unfamiliar with these sites, so I don't know how accurate this is.


Edit: disregard, he was in the Minnesota national guard in 1996.

nullandvoid fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Aug 7, 2024

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Nick Soapdish posted:

Hey gang, so I went back to the Bad Site(TM) instead of Bluesky to see how they were reacting and laughed at the current attack against Walz' service. Apparently because he retired at 24 YOS instead of going to Iraq, that makes him a loser and abandoning his folks. I've had to explain to relative and non-military folks that everyone in the service, short of your Grace Hoppers or Hyman Rickovers, is replaceable usually have a close enough replacement stepup and get the job done

His personnel records don’t appear to be out there yet but I saw something saying that he retired a full year before his unit deployed so it seems that line of attack may be completely bogus?

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Suicide Watch posted:

Yeah I (somewhat) know. My point in mentioning them was, there are so few enlisted elected or cabinet senior officials to begin with. Chuck Hagel as SecDef already was an anomaly.


Apparently Tim Walz is a huge data nerd, here he is giving a talk for the people who make ArcGIS this year.
Link to talk https://mediaspace.esri.com/media/t/1_d2sqkrju

Stop making me like this man more and more with each passing moment.

hobbesmaster posted:

His personnel records don’t appear to be out there yet but I saw something saying that he retired a full year before his unit deployed so it seems that line of attack may be completely bogus?

And even if it wasn't, imagine arguing in 2024 with a straight face that it's bad actually, that someone saw the Iraq War for what it was, and retired honorably rather than go along with that poo poo. It ain't 2008 anymore.



Anyways, went out with my in-laws for dinner for the first time in awhile. My normally suburban republican voting mother in law who broke for Biden in '20 but was having reservations about voting for him again this go around really likes Harris, but LOVES Walz. I know it's only been a day, but I think Harris fuckin' nailed the pick.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB
24 years he can retire whenever the hell he wants to.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Thank you, Johnny Hockey.

Handsome Ralph posted:

Stop making me like this man more and more with each passing moment.

And even if it wasn't, imagine arguing in 2024 with a straight face that it's bad actually, that someone saw the Iraq War for what it was, and retired honorably rather than go along with that poo poo. It ain't 2008 anymore.

Who WOULDN'T get out after 24 years when facing down the seeming likelihood of getting sent to the sandbox at any moment? Who can blame him?

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

I think Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt probably have him beat. Jackson took a shot to the chest in a duel, then killed the other guy before he became the only president to have killed a man in a duel.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Handsome Ralph posted:

Anyways, went out with my in-laws for dinner for the first time in awhile. My normally suburban republican voting mother in law who broke for Biden in '20 but was having reservations about voting for him again this go around really likes Harris, but LOVES Walz. I know it's only been a day, but I think Harris fuckin' nailed the pick.

Donnie "Late Great Hannibal Lecter" Trump and JD "Project 2025" Vance exude creepy/weird vibes that are an absolute turnoff to suburban normie types. Kamala/Walz have normie-enough vibes that they're absolutely willing to jettison any "too liberal" concerns. Especially when Kamala/Walz can spin the "too liberal" stuff as poo poo people are in agreement with (school breakfast/lunch, LGBT+ rights, abortion rights, telling the creepy pregnancy surveiller to go gently caress themself).

I don't think Donnie's band of fuckers has the skill to turn the prosecutor into a commie and the hunter into a socialist. They've been huffing their own farts for too long, they don't know how to speak normie anymore. To some extent, neither do the major papers spinning Walz as the "Kamala didn't go to the center" pick. They weren't listening to tonight's speeches - they're aimed at those center/rural/suburban voters that just need permission to finally go "these fuckers are weird".

Example: https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1820964896558727180

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

piL posted:

I think Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt probably have him beat. Jackson took a shot to the chest in a duel, then killed the other guy before he became the only president to have killed a man in a duel.

Also, you know, the 4 that got shot to death.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Suicide Watch posted:

Yeah I (somewhat) know. My point in mentioning them was, there are so few enlisted elected or cabinet senior officials to begin with. Chuck Hagel as SecDef already was an anomaly.


Apparently Tim Walz is a huge data nerd, here he is giving a talk for the people who make ArcGIS this year.
Link to talk https://mediaspace.esri.com/media/t/1_d2sqkrju

that's great, as VP will he have enough juice to replace NGP-VAN with something that isn't radioactive dogshit

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

DEER CRACKERS

Nick Soapdish posted:

Hey gang, so I went back to the Bad Site(TM) instead of Bluesky to see how they were reacting and laughed at the current attack against Walz' service. Apparently because he retired at 24 YOS instead of going to Iraq, that makes him a loser and abandoning his folks. I've had to explain to relative and non-military folks that everyone in the service, short of your Grace Hoppers or Hyman Rickovers, is replaceable usually have a close enough replacement stepup and get the job done

A Democrat who retires gracefully and lets capable leaders from the next generation take the torch?

Dang. We’ve found a unicorn.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

OddObserver posted:

Also, you know, the 4 that got shot to death.

Yeah!

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....
Quote a trump-hating but mostly conservative / republican acquaintance: "The democrats found an old white guy I actually want to vote for. Goddamnit."

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

https://x.com/OhPoorPup/status/1820929455847539046


friends don't let friends use 18 gauge speaker wire

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
His response to an interviewer asking what the last thing he did by himself was "going to Menard's to buy an air filter for my furnace." Which is one of the most Midwestern answers possible.

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