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Irony.or.Death
Apr 1, 2009




Debbie Does Dagon posted:

Can we please add Naked Lunch to this list

I haven't seen Naked Lunch so I am 100% in favor if you tell me it's horror enough.

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married but discreet
May 7, 2005




Taco Defender

Re-nominating Park Chan Wook, since I did him last time and wasn't so sure about including The Handmaiden. Upon further pondering the movie slaps and is horror adjacent enough to be included.

Thirst (2009)
The Handmaiden (2016)
Oldboy (2003)
Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (2002)
Lady Vengeance (2005)
Stoker (2013)

Irony.or.Death
Apr 1, 2009




OK I promise this will be my last nomination post unless nobody else gets around to cleaning up a Miike nom. There are again some anthologies in here and I'm not entirely clear how we're dicing those up, but I'm throwing in everything letterboxd has to be safe:

Kuei Chih-Hung
1. The Boxer's Omen
2. Bewitched
3. Hex
4. Corpse Mania
5. The Bamboo House of Dolls
6. Curse of Evil
7. The Killer Snakes
8. Ghost Eyes
9. Spirit of the Raped
10. Hex After Hex
11. Hex vs. Witchcraft
12. The Criminals, Part 5: The Teenager’s Nightmare
13. Fearful Interlude
14. The Criminals, Part 2: Homicides

Lam Nai-Choi
1. The Seventh Curse
2. The Cat
3. Her Vengeance
4. The Peacock King
5. Erotic Ghost Story
6. The Ghost Snatchers

Someone who wants to make more executive decisions than I do should dig into the modern Indonesian scene; you could put together a solid team out of Joko Anwar and Kimo/Timo, but there's a bunch of edge-case thriller stuff/shorts/co-directed productions to sort out.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Irony.or.Death posted:

There are again some anthologies in here and I'm not entirely clear how we're dicing those up, but I'm throwing in everything letterboxd has to be safe:
I've thought about this a lot and that's what I'm doing too. I think with these solo directors who have massive catalogues its just easier to put everything in now, drag the movies, and if we can't access them or they shouldn't apply for some reason we just redraw them then. That feels easier than checking every one and litigating them now. Its different if its someone with a short catalogue but of a Director has 20 films and 10 of them are invalid we'll just redraw until we get a good one.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



Ok, choosing a few weirdos to toss in here for some true Anything Can Happen action:

Al Adamson

Blood of Dracula's Castle
Horror of the Blood Monsters
Dracula vs. Frankenstein
Brain of Blood
Blood of Ghastly Horror
Doctor Dracula

Andy Milligan

The Ghastly Ones (aka Blood Rites)
Bloodthirsty Butchers
The Rats Are Coming! The Werewolves Are Here!
The Man with Two Heads
Legacy of Blood
House of Seven Belles
Carnage
The Weirdo
Surgikill

Shinya Tsukamoto

Tetsuo, the Iron Man
Tetsuo II: Body Hammer
Tetsuo, the Bullet Man
Hiruko the Goblin
Gemini
Haze
Nightmare Detective

Freddie Francis

Paranoiac
The Evil of Frankenstein
Nightmare
Dr. Terror's House of Horrors
The Skull
The Deadly Bees
Torture Garden
Dracula Has Risen from the Grave
Trog
Mumsy, Nanny, Sonny and Girly
Tales from the Crypt (1972)
The Creeping Flesh
Son of Dracula
The Ghoul
Legend of the Werewolf
The Doctor and the Devils
Dark Tower

Fred Olen Ray

Demented Death Farm Massacre
The Brain Leeches
Alien Dead
Scalps
Biohazard
Deep Space
Beverly Hills Vamp
Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers
Billy Frankenstein
Tomb of the Werewolf

Uwe Boll

Amoklauf
Sanctimony
House of the Dead
Alone in the Dark
BloodRayne
BloodRayne II: Deliverance
Seed
BloodRayne: The Third Reich

Jan Svankmajer

Alice
Faust
Conspirators of Pleasure
Little Otik
Lunacy
Insects

José Mojica Marins

At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul
This Night I'll Possess Your Corpse
The Strange World of Coffin Joe
Awakening of the Beast
The Bloody Exorcism of Coffin Joe
Hellish Flesh
Hallucinations of a Deranged Mind
Embodiment of Evil

M. Night Shyamalan

The Sixth Sense
Signs
The Village
The Happening
The Visit
Split

TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Dec 8, 2020

married but discreet
May 7, 2005




Taco Defender

This rules! I can't wait to actually watch these movies.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out



TrixRabbi posted:

Ok, choosing a few weirdos to toss in here for some true Anything Can Happen action:

You beautiful, beautiful goon

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



Tarnop posted:

You beautiful, beautiful goon

We gotta spice it up for the sequel!

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



Amando de Ossorio

Malenka, the Vampire's Niece
Tombs of the Blind Dead
Return of the Blind Dead
The Ghost Galleon
Demon Witch Child
Night of the Seagulls

Jesus Franco

The Diabolical Dr. Z
Necronomicon (aka Succubus)
The Bloody Judge
Count Dracula
Vampyros Lesbos
A Virgin Among the Living Dead
Female Vampire
Jack the Ripper
Devil Hunter
Oasis of the Zombies

TEAM: Andrzej Żuławski & Other Poles

The Third Part of the Night
The Devil
Possession
On the Silver Globe
Mother Joan of the Angels (directed by Jerzy Kawalerowicz)
The Beast (directed by Walerian Borowczyk)

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Ok, first 32 eliminated from the first round have been tabulated.

7 had 6+ films and have been automatically nominated. Koji Shirashi, Don Coscarelli, Mary Lambert, Terence Fisher, Mike Flanagan, Herschell Gordon Lewis, and Kiyoshi Kurosawa.

Another 12 fell short. Jack Arnold, Tod Browning, William Lustig, Karyn Kusama, Yoshiaki Kawajiri, Jacques Tourneur, Ed Wood, Clive Barker, James Wan, Alexandre Aja. Lucky McKee, and Michele Soavi

Everyone else has already been nominated on their own or as part of a team.

I’ve created a second sheet and put them on it. I’m gonna add all the other “holdovers” who haven’t been chosen so you can easily check. I’m not really sure why I wasn’t doing that already.

After I add Trix's.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rzRuxycZQQAkq1VjkgDyqTpmhrN_uVRSyk5d4D0I7Ig/edit#gid=1138728559

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Mar 12, 2008

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Ok, I've transfered all the "Holdover" people (and a few others) to a second sheet of unnominated people. Some of them had enough movies for automatic nominations. Roy Ward Baker, Ruggero Deodato, David DeCoteau, Ryuhei Kitamura, Charles Band, and Herbert L Strock.

This would be a good time to mention a few format changes we've been discussing for the Tournament.

1) I'm leaning towards a Play In round. If you're not a sports fan that's simply 2 teams playing for 1 of the 64 slots. I feel like we all want to watch movies and we all want to see every entry get a chance... even the joke ones... so why not add a round where everyone gets at least 1 movie? We're still gonna vote for seedings and it will be important because we're not only voting to see where they seed in the tournament but effectively for byes past the play in round. This will extend the tournament a week or two (depending on how many we have) but it just means more movies so I assume everyone will be in. If not let me know.

2) As I mentioned, I've stopped double checking availability or eligibility of these solo directors' movies. It still matters for 6 qualification but after 6 I'm defaulting to waiting until its time for the tournament to worry about that. It seems like the easiest and most effective method. So if you want to nominate a director with a ton of movies you don't have to name them all. Nominate who you want and as long as they've got 6+ I'll handle it.

3) When the tournament is happening I'm gonna draw movies randomly each round like Shreck did. But I'm also gonna redraw them if they're impossible to watch or ineligible. This all might happen behind the scenes before anything's posted but I want to be open about it so there's no confusion.

4) Its been discussed that if a director has sequels of his own films i the pool then it makes sense that if a sequel is drawn to just default to the original, so there's no need to have to seek out the previous ones. So if Bad Ben 7 gets pulled we'll just watch Bad Ben instead. Sound kosher? This obviously won't apply if the previous film isn't in the director's pool. So if Mike Flanagan draws Doctor Sleep he obviously doesn't suddenly get a Kubrick film.

Sound good? Still lots of directors not nominated including people not on the sheet. If you have a favorite film or director and can't figure where to put them, post it. Maybe someone else will have an idea or help you out. We're up to 80 noms but there's no limit... it just makes the play in round a little longer which means more movies.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Dec 8, 2020

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005





Team: Deb Tricks You Into Watching Porn

Directors: Bruce LaBruce, Alain Guiraudie, Walerian Borowczyk, Carlos Atanes

(Bruce LaBruce)
Otto; or, Up With Dead People

(Alain Guiraudie)
Stranger by the Lake

(Walerian Borowczyk)
The Beast
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Miss Osbourne

(Carlos Atanes)
Maximum Shame
Gallino, the Chicken System

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Jaume Balagueró and Paco Plaza - The two Spanish directors made international hit [REC] together and made all their sequels, and both have had expansive careers including Plaza’s Veronica. This is fudging the rules a bit so if anyone objects I’ll pull the entry, but I can’t figure out how to separate the two and so much of their catalogue is linked it feels appropriate to put them together. Let me know if you disagree.

[REC]
[REC]²

Jaume Balagueró,
Sleep Tight
[REC]⁴ Apocalypse
Fragile
Darkness
The Nameless
Muse

Paco Plaza
Veronica
[REC]³ Genesis
A Christmas Tale
Romasanta: The Werewolf Hunt

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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I wouldn't have any appointment



Grimey Drawer

Debbie Does Dagon posted:

Team: Deb Tricks You Into Watching Porn

Directors: Bruce LaBruce, Alain Guiraudie, Walerian Borowczyk, Carlos Atanes

(Bruce LaBruce)
Otto; or, Up With Dead People

(Alain Guiraudie)
Stranger by the Lake

(Walerian Borowczyk)
The Beast
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Miss Osbourne

(Carlos Atanes)
Maximum Shame
Gallino, the Chicken System

This team is genius.

married but discreet
May 7, 2005




Taco Defender

I can't find Nicolas Roeg (Don't Look Now, The Witches, Cold Heaven, Puffball?) on any of the lists. Could be a nice time member.

Yesterdays Piss
Nov 8, 2009




I just like watching new movies, and I don't care about who wins. Therefore, in my capacity as a senseless martyr, and as a gesture of goodwill towards all, I volunteer a list of vaguely interesting, but mostly unremarkable, movies by small-time directors. It can serve as a wild card to ensure that someone's fav gets a second wind in the first round if they're unfortunate enough to get a stinker.

Team Somebody's Gotta Go First (A.K.A Team Dollar Store Grab Bag )

Joel Potrykus:
Buzzard (2014)
The Alchemist Cookbook (2016)
Relaxer (2018)*

Ujicha:
Violence Voyager (2019)

Zach Gayne:
Homewrecker (2019)

Mike Ahern and Enda Loughman:
Extra Ordinary (2019)

*Debbie referred to this as a horror during a stream, and who are we to say that she's wrong? Otherwise, I'm swapping it for Satoshi Kon's Perfect Blue, and your chances of being exposed to a dreaded anime are doubled. Choose wisely!

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

Another strange C-Tier director: Kevin Tenney

Night of the Demons (1988)
Witchboard
Witchboard 2
WitchTrap
Pinocchio's Revenge
The Cellar
Brain Dead (2007)
Endangered Species

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



Debbie Does Dagon posted:

Team: Deb Tricks You Into Watching Porn

Directors: Bruce LaBruce, Alain Guiraudie, Walerian Borowczyk, Carlos Atanes

(Bruce LaBruce)
Otto; or, Up With Dead People

(Alain Guiraudie)
Stranger by the Lake

(Walerian Borowczyk)
The Beast
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Miss Osbourne

(Carlos Atanes)
Maximum Shame
Gallino, the Chicken System

Along with Jean Rollin and Jesus Franco I feel like this is gonna be a horror-softcore heavy tournament this time around.

I know there's a lot of heavy hitters who got eliminated early last time (Carpenter, Craven, Argento, etc.) who need another chance but I'd be down to exclude directors who made it to the third round or higher entirely (Cronenberg, Lynch, etc.) just to give more space to weirdos and obscurities.

edit: For reference, that would be Takashi Miike, Stuart Gordon, George Romero, Ishiro Honda, Bong Joon-ho, Chuck Russell, Ari Aster, Brian Yuzna, Ridley Scott, David Lynch, Sam Raimi, David Cronenberg, Alfred Hitchcock, Peter Jackson, Guillermo del Toro, Ken Russell and Larry Cohen. Not sure how people feel about that, but it would certainly ensure this tournament has a different feel with an emphasis on new or underexplored names.

TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Dec 8, 2020

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005





Franchescanado posted:

This team is genius.

:kimchi:

Yesterdays Piss posted:

Otherwise, I'm swapping it for Satoshi Kon's Perfect Blue, and your chances of being exposed to a dreaded anime are doubled. Choose wisely!

I would actually love your help in constructing a whole anime team, or bringing forward a few horror anime directors. Let's make fools of this thread's reticence.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



As much as I have an aversion to anime I'm all for getting some more in here.

Part of the reason I'm lobbying for excluding directors who made it to at least the third round is I don't want us to be pitching all these obscure and offbeat directors only for them to get tossed in seed voting for a bracket that more or less looks the same as last time but with different movies. Like, I love a lot of those directors and there's a lot of good stuff they didn't get to play, but since this is also functioning as a gamified Film Club I think it's more fun to emphasize new and weird poo poo.

Plus, we'll definitely still have folks like Carpenter and Craven around to balance things out.

married but discreet
May 7, 2005




Taco Defender

Purgin' with Friends
The Purge (2013) - James DeMonaco
The Purge: Anarchy (2014) - - James DeMonaco
The Purge: Election Year (2016) - - James DeMonaco
The First Purge (2018) - Gerard McMurray
Assassination Nation (2018) - Sam Levinson
Assault on Precinct 13 (2005) - Jean-François Richet

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005





TrixRabbi posted:

Part of the reason I'm lobbying for excluding directors who made it to at least the third round is I don't want us to be pitching all these obscure and offbeat directors only for them to get tossed in seed voting for a bracket that more or less looks the same as last time but with different movies. Like, I love a lot of those directors and there's a lot of good stuff they didn't get to play, but since this is also functioning as a gamified Film Club I think it's more fun to emphasize new and weird poo poo.

My only aversion to this, is the idea of losing Miike. I think he's unique in that he's simultaneously divisive and yet undeniably talented. Even though he made it to the final, he's still a weirdo outlier in my heart.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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TrixRabbi posted:

Along with Jean Rollin and Jesus Franco I feel like this is gonna be a horror-softcore heavy tournament this time around.

I know there's a lot of heavy hitters who got eliminated early last time (Carpenter, Craven, Argento, etc.) who need another chance but I'd be down to exclude directors who made it to the third round or higher entirely (Cronenberg, Lynch, etc.) just to give more space to weirdos and obscurities.

edit: For reference, that would be Takashi Miike, Stuart Gordon, George Romero, Ishiro Honda, Bong Joon-ho, Chuck Russell, Ari Aster, Brian Yuzna, Ridley Scott, David Lynch, Sam Raimi, David Cronenberg, Alfred Hitchcock, Peter Jackson, Guillermo del Toro, Ken Russell and Larry Cohen. Not sure how people feel about that, but it would certainly ensure this tournament has a different feel with an emphasis on new or underexplored names.

If people want to ban Directors who went far I'm ok with that but here's my case for why I didn't do that.

1) That's why I want to do a play-in round, so at least each weirdo entry gets one shot to win people over.

2) This is only kinda a Director's tourney. Like people talked about doing movies or subgenres and I think they're all delivery systems to watch movies. I just though Directors was the easiest way to do it.

3) I don't think we necessarily sacrifice new stuff with the old guard. I'm as unfamiliar with Miike's deep library as any other entry. I do have some concerns that Team David will roll again but its one entry in a massive field. And you know... maybe by total chance the brackets might set up some knockouts or interesting matchups that resul in the same kind of blood bath we sa last time.

4) I think we'll get the same vibe towards offbeat entries and away from the traditional choices that we got last time. Its just that now the offbeats aren't people like Lynch, Cronenberg, Miike, and Russell. They're establishment now. So maybe they'll catch the same pushback?

married but discreet posted:

I can't find Nicolas Roeg (Don't Look Now, The Witches, Cold Heaven, Puffball?) on any of the lists. Could be a nice time member.

I assume it goes without saying but the Unnominated pool is just a helpful tool. Of course ANY director/film that hasn't been nominated is eligible. That sheet is just names that were holdovers from the last tournament, have come up in here, or like last night I just went through my best rated horror films and added all the ones I thought deserved being added to see if they find homes.

I'm definitely finding teams for Revenge and As Above, So Below before noms close.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Dec 8, 2020

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

At this point, might it behoove us to rework the thread to be "Horror Movie Bracketology 2021" or something? Since we keep developing so many teams, it being director-centric is misleading.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Franchescanado posted:

At this point, might it behoove us to rework the thread to be "Horror Movie Bracketology 2021" or something? Since we keep developing so many teams, it being director-centric is misleading.

That's fine with me, but I can't do that in the thread title.

My spreadsheet is now Spook A Doodle Horror Bracketology II - Coming in 2021 for whatever its worth.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

STAC Goat posted:

That's fine with me, but I can't do that in the thread title.

I think I know someone who can.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

So we all collaborated and brainstormed in discord and came up with this team:

Team It's Not A Cartoon, Mom! It's Art! <:mad:>

Eiichi Yamamoto
Belladonna of Sadness

Satoshi Kon
Paprika
Perfect Blue

Toyoo Ashida
Vampire Hunter D

Hisayuki Toriumi
Lily C.A.T.

Takayuki Hirao
GYO: Tokyo Fish Attack

Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Dec 8, 2020

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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What have I done?

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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STAC Goat posted:

What have I done?

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Just watched Sputnik. Was pretty good. Realized there's no russian representation in here. 91 nominees. We're past the point of restraint. Why the hell not?

In Russia Doodle Spook You

Egor Abramenko
Sputnik

Georgiy Kropachyov, Konstantin Ershov
Viy

Svyatoslav Podgaevsky
The Bride
Baba Yaga
The Mermaid: Lake of the Dead
Queen of Spades: The Dark Rite

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Since The Beast got added to my Zuwalski's list and Debbie's porn list, maybe swap it out on mine for Zuwalski's Cosmos which I haven't seen but is more of a surreal thriller. I've read the book, which certainly has some grim imagery in it.

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Mar 12, 2008

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I didn't realize we doubled up. Sorry, Deb. Beast has to stay on Zuwalski's team.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

STAC Goat posted:

I didn't realize we doubled up. Sorry, Deb. Beast has to stay on Zuwalski's team.

By your rules, that would mean TrixRabbi either has to also take Dr. Jekyll and Mrs. Osbourne and remove Mother Joan of the Angels, or we just find a Polish film to replace The Beast on TrixRabbi's team.

edit: Another compromise, if we don't go with TrixRabbi swapping out The Beast for Cosmos (which I think would be cool), there's also Rainer Sarnet's November (2017) or Marcin Wrona's Demon from 2015 for the Polish team, or Adrien Paneck's Werewolf from 2018.

Or pick something from this list: Letterboxd list of films tagged with both Poland and Horror: https://letterboxd.com/films/popular/genre/horror/country/poland/size/small/

(I already have The Lure on my Femme Fatale list)

Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Dec 9, 2020

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Mar 12, 2008

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I actually misread that. I thought Trix was saying Beast was a Zuwalski movie.

It looks like the cleanest movie is what Trix said. And adding Cosmos to his team would make him have to cut one spot anyway.

Sorry, I just woke up.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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All good. Yeah, Zuwalski with five + a guest film, and then The Beast stays on Debbie's team is best outcome.

For what it's worth, I did not check the availability of those early Zuwalskis before submitting.

married but discreet
May 7, 2005




Taco Defender

An emergency polish movie, if needed, would be Demon (2015) by Marcin Wrona

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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When do we begin winnowing down these submissions into a final bracket?

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Mar 12, 2008

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I figured I'd give it at least to the end of the week. I started the thread early specifically to work out the kinks and deal with any complications or lure people in. I assumed we were still looking at January as a start date. I don't want to start before Christmas at least. But we can give nominations til the end of the week, do a week with seeding, and then figure out any "Play In" rounds we might want to do*.

So maybe Monday the 14th as a deadline for noms? Then I'll put a seeding vote together that can take us through Christmas and we can set our bracket and field in the week up to New Years? Or do we want to speed up the process? I tend to be methodical so you folks feel free to push me if you think I'm moving too slow.

There's still a LOT of big names and movies in the Unnominated Pool.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rzRuxycZQQAkq1VjkgDyqTpmhrN_uVRSyk5d4D0I7Ig/edit#gid=1138728559

*My original idea was something along the lines of 60 entries are chosen and everyone else plays for the last 4 spots. That way every entry gets at least one movie to sink or swim. Realistically we just have too many entries to do that. We'd be doing Play In rounds for a month and we'd need like 10 spots unless everything was an 8 way. So we're gonna just have to figure it out after we seed. The simplest solution is to just include anyone who gets stray votes and if too many to just pick the top X who do. I also figured we might default to the teams over the individuals since there's more thought, passion, and diversity in them. But all of this will be easier to sort out after we do a seeding vote and see who is in and who is out.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

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I see no reason to speed up the process, January as the actual start of the tournament itself sounds good to me.

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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

Honestly? A whole month of play-in rounds sounds fun. It would also give us a chance to spread the word around CineD and beyond for participants.


Basebf555 posted:

I see no reason to speed up the process, January as the actual start of the tournament itself sounds good to me.

Yeah, agreed.

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