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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007




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Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
https://twitter.com/deputywarlock/status/1456853368333275138?s=21

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.
:fart:

https://twitter.com/tpflug/status/1456891935889707013

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
https://twitter.com/drbronner/status/1456648757278347269?s=21

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004




lol

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012


no duh. 100 is not one of the power numbers. check the 1746th bottle in sequence

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
https://twitter.com/chixculube/status/1456780547972386816?s=21

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/status/1457866915079143429?s=20

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1457887196246122500?s=20

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002



holy poo poo lmao.

"I've been pilgrimage to the lost site!"

https://twitter.com/dailyportalz/status/1457509155363688448?s=20

Check the link about the journey on the reply tweet.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
https://twitter.com/yohosiefgc/status/1458118242816315407?s=21

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002



https://twitter.com/konel_bread/status/1458073325825978368?s=20

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

:monocle:

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




donít worry, be happy

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
https://twitter.com/liljonlovitz/status/1456128229803114496?s=21

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.
:fart:

https://twitter.com/jennplusplus/status/1458255973919952902

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Obviously the language is stupid but I think the spirit of the bill is correct.

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Sagebrush posted:

Obviously the language is stupid but I think the spirit of the bill is correct.
The language of the bill itself or the reporting thereupon?

Because that's rarely all that great. It hasn't hit the aba journal yet and I don't feel like giving it any more than a skim.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



my fellow americans, i'm pleased to tell you today that i've signed legislation that will outlaw algorithms forever. we begin bombing in five minutes.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Midjack posted:

my fellow americans, i'm pleased to tell you today that i've signed legislation that will outlaw algorithms forever. we begin bombing in five minutes.

FINALLY

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Sagebrush posted:

Obviously the language is stupid but I think the spirit of the bill is correct.

quote:

The term "opaque algorithm" means an algorithmic ranking system that determines the order or manner that information is furnished to a user on a covered internet platform based, in whole or part, on user-specific data that was not expressly provided by the user to the platform for such purpose.

no, i think the spirit is stupid too

Armitag3
Mar 15, 2020

Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.

duz posted:

no, i think the spirit is stupid too

What's wrong there? On first sniff it looks like the makings of an american GDPR

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


a simple answer is it would prevent serving up the mobile version of websites to phones until they click the mobile version link
it would also apply to other autodetected things like language and geo-ip lookups
like the gdpr, it would also result in a page blocking popup asking you to approve their use of everything that they were using pre-law instead of making companies change anything
the good part of gdpr is being able to request the data on you the company has and requesting they delete it, not that they tell you to give them permission to collect it

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

duz posted:

a simple answer is it would prevent serving up the mobile version of websites to phones until they click the mobile version link
it would also apply to other autodetected things like language and geo-ip lookups
like the gdpr, it would also result in a page blocking popup asking you to approve their use of everything that they were using pre-law instead of making companies change anything
the good part of gdpr is being able to request the data on you the company has and requesting they delete it, not that they tell you to give them permission to collect it

i dont think these details are what people mean by "the spirit of the law"

500 good dogs
Sep 12, 2001

duz posted:

a simple answer is it would prevent serving up the mobile version of websites to phones until they click the mobile version link
it would also apply to other autodetected things like language and geo-ip lookups
like the gdpr, it would also result in a page blocking popup asking you to approve their use of everything that they were using pre-law instead of making companies change anything
the good part of gdpr is being able to request the data on you the company has and requesting they delete it, not that they tell you to give them permission to collect it

since when is "serving a mobile version of a website" an "algorithmic ranking system"

Zlodo
Nov 25, 2006

duz posted:

it would also apply to other autodetected things like geo-ip lookups

you're saying this like it's a bad thing

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender
They got so butthurt over Instagram that they want chronological timeline legislation?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

duz posted:

a simple answer is it would prevent serving up the mobile version of websites to phones until they click the mobile version link
it would also apply to other autodetected things like language and geo-ip lookups
like the gdpr, it would also result in a page blocking popup asking you to approve their use of everything that they were using pre-law instead of making companies change anything
the good part of gdpr is being able to request the data on you the company has and requesting they delete it, not that they tell you to give them permission to collect it

even taking these dumb edge cases at face value, i would absolutely prefer having to press a button to switch from mobile to desktop mode to algorithmically wrecked search results

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


500 good dogs posted:

since when is "serving a mobile version of a website" an "algorithmic ranking system"

because it changes how the ranking is displayed

Zlodo posted:

you're saying this like it's a bad thing

if they arent storing the information, i find it hard to care that they are filtering the results to be close to where they think i am

rotor posted:

i dont think these details are what people mean by "the spirit of the law"

i mean, if the spirit is just "gently caress facebook", then maybe
but this law isnt about storage of pii or keeping it safe or any of the good things in the gdpr, its about search results not having enough conservative sources making conservatives upset

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

duz posted:

because it changes how the ranking is displayed

if they arent storing the information, i find it hard to care that they are filtering the results to be close to where they think i am

i mean, if the spirit is just "gently caress facebook", then maybe
but this law isnt about storage of pii or keeping it safe or any of the good things in the gdpr, its about search results not having enough conservative sources making conservatives upset

i'm sure it's partly conservatives mad about that, but the other impetus for it is that people don't realize that facebook is a skinner box that uses opaque selection algorithms to make its users as ignorant and angry as possible, and facebook shouldn't be able to pretend that's not what they're doing. this is the spirit of it that people like. (whether this implementation addresses that, or any implementation could, i don't know enough to say.)

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

duz posted:

a simple answer is it would prevent serving up the mobile version of websites to phones until they click the mobile version link
it would also apply to other autodetected things like language and geo-ip lookups
like the gdpr, it would also result in a page blocking popup asking you to approve their use of everything that they were using pre-law instead of making companies change anything
the good part of gdpr is being able to request the data on you the company has and requesting they delete it, not that they tell you to give them permission to collect it
lol no not even fuckin close

When you get past the definitions and exemptions and to the meat of the proposed law it says "yeah you have to offer a choice between opaque and transparent feeds" and geolocation is explicitly allowed for in the definition of an input-transparent algorithm which is right above what you've pasted

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.
:fart:

https://twitter.com/xsphi/status/1457963927040499712

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
*closure with an army and a navy

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Ellie Trashcakes posted:

lol no not even fuckin close

When you get past the definitions and exemptions and to the meat of the proposed law it says "yeah you have to offer a choice between opaque and transparent feeds" and geolocation is explicitly allowed for in the definition of an input-transparent algorithm which is right above what you've pasted

lol, thats what i get for being lazy and posting while lunching

https://twitter.com/pankenlewd/status/1458451987914268683

Zlodo
Nov 25, 2006

duz posted:

because it changes how the ranking is displayed

if they arent storing the information, i find it hard to care that they are filtering the results to be close to where they think i am

fair enough
I was thinking about the notices that say "our european visitors can go gently caress themselves are important to us, but" displayed by sites that choose to be pissy little bitches about gdpr instead of just allowing you to reject cookies

Zlodo fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Nov 11, 2021

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP

if you dont have a market for your product in gdpr nations, it saves you web traffic to do the former over the latter, and ensures a higher tracking rate if you dont allow cookies to be opted out of.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
big rips

https://twitter.com/kennethlogins/status/1458630592841535490?s=21

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Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


the traction this has gotten across twitter has resulted in me having to explain who Lowtax was to my mother

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