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Sopranos is good tv but it ain't the best thing ever or anything.
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Rhyno posted:Sopranos is good tv but it ain't the best thing ever or anything. It's hard to dismiss its historical significance, at the very least.
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Feb 12, 2021 17:31
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To be serious, I think comparing wildly disparate shows is pants. I mean, you don't hear country singers saying "My next album will be better than The Wall" because it's nonsense. Atlanta is a lot more enjoyable than Sopranos to me, though Sopranos is great, but to judge them side by side seems kinda pointless
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Feb 12, 2021 17:40
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I'm not doing that. But there are shows with more enjoyable casts and storylines.
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Feb 12, 2021 17:41
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tbf sopranos is the best show ever and most of y’all are talking nonsense right now
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Feb 12, 2021 17:43
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abelwingnut posted:i just hate all media that revolves around the mob or mafia or whatever. v Yeah, it's just not a setting/theme I enjoy. Tons of "really great" movies and such about em, but when watching 'em I'm always wishing it was about something else. Godfather I glaze over like that door shutting in my face, in my mind, everytime the mafia boys are doing mafia stuff. Shageletic posted:Sopranos makes you ruminate about toxic masculinity, toxic families, being toxic, etc. Atlanta doesn't have those aims I think (maybe I need to rewatch the eps). Just being online has me ruminating enough about those thing 24/7. I can just say "Sopranos is good" without bothering to watch it, like, I'm sure Citizen Kane is very good and it's Very Important that someone finally figured out camera angles or whatever but if I'm actually going to sit down and watch a movie right now, I'm going for Parasite or 100 other good movies I ain't seen yet, regardless of their eventual historical significance.
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Feb 12, 2021 17:45
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Rhyno posted:I'm not doing that. But there are shows with more enjoyable casts and storylines. I wasn't addressing anyone in particular. Nobody thinks wildly different shows should maybe not be compared? I'm really crazy for thinking that? I don't compare RPGs to FPS games, I don't compare rap to death metal, saying that the Sopranos or Atlanta are I just realized how pointless this post is, lol. Nobody's gonna agree with it or anything and I'm just gunna end up feeling bad. Never mind
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Feb 12, 2021 17:46
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Open Source Idiom posted:It's hard to dismiss its historical significance, at the very least. I don't know if this is you too, but that's what I say when I don't want to fluster people who love that show. I slogged through a few seasons before giving up years ago, but present-day setting mobster stuff just does nothing for me. I'm not going to say it's bad or anything, I've changed my opinions on a few shows since then that are way more outside my usual tastes. I don't really want to try again with it either though.
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Feb 12, 2021 17:52
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abelwingnut posted:i just hate all media that revolves around the mob or mafia or whatever. v Same. I just look at the characters and think "What a bunch of loving losers," from The Godfather to Goodfellas and beyond. Mythologizing the Italian mafia's deeply ugly exploits into genre feels like giving them attention and validation that they don't deserve, even if the films and shows are intended to be critical of that lifestyle.
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Feb 12, 2021 17:54
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Simone Magus posted:I wasn't addressing anyone in particular. That's not an unusual stance to take, I don't think anyone here would be comparing the two if Donald Glover didn't set the stage for it, and that stage is an arena for "best TV shows period" and Sopranos is one of the ones people throw in that ring. "Best art list" is certainly a foolish endeavor suited only for hierarchical-dependent apes, so all sorts of things end up fighting other things that don't make much sense.
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Feb 12, 2021 17:56
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Tony's kids and every plot involving them are miserable.
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Feb 12, 2021 17:56
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My dad grew up across the street from Terry Winter and hated him as a kid and never watched The Sopranos because of that. It always made me laugh when he would complain about Winter stealing a bunch of comics and baseball cards from him whenever the show was mentioned.
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Feb 12, 2021 18:00
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Khanstant posted:That's not an unusual stance to take, I don't think anyone here would be comparing the two if Donald Glover didn't set the stage for it, and that stage is an arena for "best TV shows period" and Sopranos is one of the ones people throw in that ring. "Best art list" is certainly a foolish endeavor suited only for hierarchical-dependent apes, so all sorts of things end up fighting other things that don't make much sense. A fighting game featuring characters from a bunch of wildly different TV series 
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Feb 12, 2021 18:05
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I wanna be Blanche from Golden Girls.
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Feb 12, 2021 18:07
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feedmyleg posted:Same. I just look at the characters and think "What a bunch of loving losers," from The Godfather to Goodfellas and beyond. Mythologizing the Italian mafia's deeply ugly exploits into genre feels like giving them attention and validation that they don't deserve, even if the films and shows are intended to be critical of that lifestyle. You should DEFINITELY watch The Sopranos
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Feb 12, 2021 18:24
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IRQ posted:I don't know if this is you too, but that's what I say when I don't want to fluster people who love that show. I slogged through a few seasons before giving up years ago, but present-day setting mobster stuff just does nothing for me. Yeah, this is absolutely me. I got halfway into Season 3, saw they were doing a -- I probably don't have to spoiler this, but I don't know how far you got -- rape plot with Doctor Melfi and it turned out to be just as miserable as I thought it would be. Not bad, absolutely not bad, just miserable. I just wasn't engaging with the story being told, because I just don't engage with the tropes its using and subverting. The comedy's great, one of the funniest shows on television. But it might as well have been a well-observed, highly detailed satire concerning the crazy habits of Antarctic marine biologists for all that it spoke to me. I realised I was watching it because it was good, rather than because I was engaging with it, so I stopped.
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Feb 12, 2021 18:43
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Wait what's this show about the arctic marine biologists, I'm sold.
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Feb 12, 2021 18:46
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Khanstant posted:Wait what's this show about the arctic marine biologists, I'm sold. No, sorry, it's ACTUALLY about Antarctic marine biologists, and I've decided you wouldn't like it.
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Feb 12, 2021 18:48
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Khanstant posted:Wait what's this show about the arctic marine biologists, I'm sold. There was a great The Thing-inspired episode of The X-Files about this.
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Feb 12, 2021 19:00
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Open Source Idiom posted:No, sorry, it's ACTUALLY about Antarctic marine biologists, and I've decided you wouldn't like it. gently caress the antarctic. Buncha shitbirds making GBS threads everywhere getting eaten by pokemon god forgot to finish drawing legs for, all taking place around earth's frozen rear end in a top hat. Yuck. Meanwhile Arctic popping off with wild apes, bears with cola for blood, cool birds, and they even got some plants for extra drama
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Feb 12, 2021 19:20
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Uh no, the arctic is nothing but a hole which leads into the Hollow Earth. But yes, that place is full of volcanos and psychic molemen and dinosaurs and is way better than the antarctic.
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Feb 12, 2021 19:37
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Yo Tone, did you know the North Pole is the exact intersection of the Earth's axis and its surface? Shaddup Chris, I'm trying to eat some gabagool on top of this penguin
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Feb 12, 2021 20:49
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The Sopranos is great both from a metatextual & thematic perspective, as well as just being drat well-made & -acted. As far as portrayal of the mob goes, it is incredibly generous to their actual competence and organizational structure. Donnie Brasco is the most realistic depiction of the mafia, in no small part because it's based on true people & events. Grifters one-upping each other and busting open stolen parking meters in their spare time. Nearly 20 years on from The Sopranos, the real mob today is just a bunch of guys bouncing around in Brownian motion, collecting debts for other, more well-run (offshore) criminal enterprises, stealing pills, selling guns, and getting shot by Q chuds or their own sons in McDonald's parking lots.
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Feb 12, 2021 21:01
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Yeah a member of the Gambino crime family got mercked by a random Qanon guy a few years ago over the latter's interpretation of a Q post. The Sopranos skewered the mafia a lot but real life is always way more cruel to its subjects.
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Feb 12, 2021 23:04
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Donald just posted this to his instagram story
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Feb 12, 2021 23:35
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Francesca Sloane is a writer on upcoming seasons of Atlanta who previously worked on Fargo s4, just so nobody else has to google her like I did This is so exciting!!!!! I assume it’s probably some original thing rather than a new version of that movie but that would be very amusing too e: actually it probably is some version of the spy thing tbh Escobarbarian fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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Feb 12, 2021 23:38
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Nundizo posted:Donald just posted this to his instagram story Huh. Seems a bit too soon to me, but could be interesting. Will and Jada are young enough to still play themselves if they wanted I reckon
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Feb 13, 2021 00:07
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muscles like this! posted:So the weird thing about the first episode of Resident Alien is that all the alien effects were good but for some reason they went with CG for any scene where you saw a car actually moving and it is super awkward. My wife and I got caught up last night and we enjoyed it. It kind of works with having a little boy be the central antagonist so far. It's childish but I couldn't stop laughing at Tudyk cursing out a little kid.
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Feb 13, 2021 00:14
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ok yep it’s a show based on the movie https://twitter.com/sepinwall/status/1360383663691685892?s=21
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Feb 13, 2021 00:28
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Nundizo posted:Donald just posted this to his instagram story Well that just bumped up to top 3 most incepted show to come. (Wheel of Time and Last Of Us are the other two).
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Feb 13, 2021 01:11
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Sirotan posted:The only person that even comes to mind today when I read "hey, its that guy from The Wire" is Isiah Whitlock Jr. and really only because he is still doing the sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeittttttttttttttttttt thing in half his roles some 20 years later. Why not buy the official Sheeeeeeeeeeit-talking Bobble-Head?
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Feb 13, 2021 02:44
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The Guest is such a good and underappreciated movie.
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Feb 13, 2021 06:04
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On last nights episode of the Blacklist, Reddington has to hunt down Huey Lewis. Not Huey Lewis playing a character, but Huey Lewis.
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Feb 13, 2021 08:57
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What about the news, did they get away?
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Feb 13, 2021 09:21
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Rhyno posted:Tony's kids and every plot involving them are miserable. I loved the "Tony trying to wack a guy while touring potential colleges for Meadow" storyline. And also the "Meadows boyfriend gets a job at a mob-run construction site" storyline.
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Feb 13, 2021 09:23
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MiddleOne posted:The Guest is such a good and underappreciated movie. Totally. Lance and Dan are the Fury and Cap of my heart. The moment the penny drops is just wonderful.
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Feb 13, 2021 17:04
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https://twitter.com/cisjender/status/1358896130419904514?s=20
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Feb 13, 2021 19:05
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Escobarbarian posted:You should DEFINITELY watch The Sopranos Same energy as goons recommending A Sword of Ice and Fire to people who hate fantasy books.
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Feb 14, 2021 00:20
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That would have been one crazy sword!
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1357336380418912258 This is from waaaaay back, but why is Archie fighting in World War II? I saw Riverdale up to season 3 or 4 and they were in modern times. Also, they're making Betty into Clarice Sterling (which, y'know what? sure, it might work).
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