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repiv posted:put a speaker system in the middle of fragment that plays baby shark at all times do you want to have dance parties? because this is how you get dance parties 
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Center of the map should be OOB for the first 5 or so minutes of the match, but have sick-nasty loot to lure moths to the flame afterwards
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i liked ring flares
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:WHOOOSH
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:WHOOOSH
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:WHOOOSH
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Somehow got a 13 kill, 2.8k damage game as Wattson in a random silver game. Almost killed the sweaty pathfinder at the end too but he was a pussy and ended up dying in the storm. https://youtu.be/UU-S8g3mxrM Edit: Looks like that pathfinder snagged the last kill from me. MarshyMcFly fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Sep 7, 2021 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:WHOOOSH
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:WHOOOSH
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:WHOOOSH
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re: tapstrafing https://twitter.com/realEuriece/status/1434734415314186248
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yeah there's definitely no way Eurice w/ kraber runs a gold lobby without tap strafing ???
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False equivalence. Saying x thing isn't busted because the example was on a gold doesn't mean poo poo. He probably wouldn't kraber hipfire either in a pred lobby. Or go into his menu to show off. Etc etc etc.
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 It wasn't busted regardless. People have invented a bogeyman and blown it way out of proportion especially after the announcement. The apex countryside wasn't besieged by M&K players tapstrafing hither and yon. It was a fun little piece of movement tech whose biggest strike was its inaccessibility to controller players. I find the "well ackchyually the devs didn't explicitly program it therefore it's an EXPLOIT" complaints to be worthless. Devs don't explicitly program lots of things. Any complex game will have player behavior not anticipated. It doesn't make it automatically bad. In this case Respawn decided to remove it which obviously their right. I'll just never agree it was necessary or good to do. tetsuo fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Sep 6, 2021 |
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We'll never know, but movement techs have a funny way of becoming almost required given enough time. See: Melee. E: granted I bet it's mostly just them not wanting tech debt and the next legend will likely have tap strafing dogstile fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Sep 6, 2021 |
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To me observing the general skill of players I was playing against in unranked (Diamonds/Masters/Preds) when playing with goons, I was legit starting to see more and more of it in the wild. That combined with observing both twitch and youtube stuff it really felt tap strafing was on the cusp of turning from a niche, nobodies heard of it skill to "if you don't learn how to use this tech you will never climb past a certain point". Bit of an exaggeration perhaps but I do feel it was closer to becoming more mainstream. Hell, just look at wall bounces as an example. Past a certain skill level you're more likely to see it than not. If you told me that the devs, before ultimately deciding to remove tap strafing, had tried to figure out ways for controller players (on consoles) to use it too before giving up and deciding it's better that tap strafing's more ridiculous form is gone I'd believe you. Respawn is generally pretty cool about keeping cool and awesome things in while removing or balancing the abusive/unfun poo poo they didn't forsee when adding it. Sometimes something that is fun is also kind of exploitive too.
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I personally can't wait to stop losing Arenas rounds because I was out-maneuvered by a tap-strafer.
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I wish Apex had text chat for console players. Am I the only person that wants this? Also, WHOOOOSH edit: also, good morning https://twitter.com/TSM/status/1434898853707329537 Napolean Bonerfarts fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Sep 6, 2021 |
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Ima Computer posted:I personally can't wait to stop losing Arenas rounds because I was out-maneuvered by a tap-strafer. Jokes on you, Arena is lame and somehow has a worse RP system than any other arena system i've seen made, where it actively encourages you to lose 5 maps in a row to start gaining RP at an optimal rate again. Chad BR > Loser Ranked arena Napolean Bonerfarts posted:WHOOOOSH
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tetsuo posted:yeah there's definitely no way Eurice w/ kraber runs a gold lobby without tap strafing ??? just trying to show a neat clip you weirdo
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tetsuo posted:In this case Respawn decided to remove it which obviously their right. I'll just never agree it was necessary or good to do. CS didn't wither and die when they removed bunny hopping. I remember seeing people post all the same things back then, and yet CS is now one of the biggest esports out there. Now if they had removed skiing from Tribes I would have burned down the studio.
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I'd like to see Apex move more towards Tribes than CS though. Lean in to more crazy action stuff and less tactical info gathering.
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Crimson posted:CS didn't wither and die when they removed bunny hopping. I remember seeing people post all the same things back then, and yet CS is now one of the biggest esports out there.
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I'm all for pros ragequitting if it means no more being queued against Preds in duos
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Bottom Liner posted:I'd like to see Apex move more towards Tribes than CS though. Lean in to more crazy action stuff and less tactical info gathering. Give me a spinfusor disc gun and a rocket pack. I demand Apex CTF, now.
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In ranked arenas and in the games where I'm not matched with or against silver and bronze players, I'm noticing much more tap strafing. It's typically used to make yourself a harder target when running away or reloading. It's not a niche flashy movement tech. It is very good. If it's left in it will be a required tech given how strong it is.
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It also looks like poo poo because of all the acceleration it gives you.
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It does not give you acceleration, it just maintains your momentum while changing directions. They said they're not removing the mechanic of air strafing as a whole, just the 180 change from scroll wheel business. Run-slide-hop-curve around a corner will probably still be possible given the statement and way they talked about what they're changing. Honestly I think just removing the ability to do it off of jump pads would fix 90% of the issue.
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You are accelerating if you change direction while maintaining a static speed. By doing this you can swap directions faster than you would be able to otherwise. If it wasn't clamped you would be able to fly off into the sunset.
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Yes, changing directions while maintaining the same speed is accelerating in that direction if you're talking physics, but you do not move faster after tap strafing in that new direction than you were already moving before you changed direction as I read your original post. And you couldn't "fly off into the sunset" unless tap strafing affected gravity.
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Bottom Liner posted:It does not give you acceleration, it just maintains your momentum while changing directions. changing direction IS changing momentum (and thus accelerating you) by the strict technical definition of the term.
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Bottom Liner posted:
If you removed the clamps on it, ie the total momentum limit you absolutely would. The point is it increases the amount you can accelerate by, within certain bounds, by a lot. It makes you a harder target to hit, and predict.
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if tap strafing was something totally different than it is you could fly off the map!
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Just trying to illustrate that it's adding a bunch of momentum change man
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dogstile posted:Jokes on you, Arena is lame and somehow has a worse RP system than any other arena system i've seen made, where it actively encourages you to lose 5 maps in a row to start gaining RP at an optimal rate again. I mean Arena is basically stock Blizzard RP, right? I can't distinguish anything different than launch Overwatch. Why would you need to lose 5 in a row?
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MJBuddy posted:I mean Arena is basically stock Blizzard RP, right? I can't distinguish anything different than launch Overwatch. Why would you need to lose 5 in a row? Apparently once you get to the higher ranks you can reset your MMR by throwing 5 games so your next win will be worth around 100 points instead of like 12. You lose 60 points but then your next few wins are worth much more.
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Regrettable posted:Apparently once you get to the higher ranks you can reset your MMR by throwing 5 games so your next win will be worth around 100 points instead of like 12. You lose 60 points but then your next few wins are worth much more. That's amusing that they've got an adjustment piece in there. They'll probably remove that then. How long does the win boost run for? I'm not confident the math would work out unless you got it for at least two wins. Throwing a game you have a 50% chance to win 5 times doesn't cost you 60 points, it costs you 90. Then you don't get a guaranteed win in the next game either, so the EV of the next match isn't 100, it's 44. So you'd need a boost to 100 per win for two games after the tank to break even, more or less. E: two things more: 1. I'm underestimating the loss from throwing because of streak bonuses. And 2. I'm not saying people aren't throwing it anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're also, you know, not realizing they're bad at EV calculations and just wanna see a big number. MJBuddy fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Sep 7, 2021 |
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MJBuddy posted:That's amusing that they've got an adjustment piece in there. They'll probably remove that then. Yeah, I don't really care about ranked arenas so I don't know the exact math but supposedly it runs for 3-4 wins. The top Preds were doing this for awhile so no one could catch up to them.
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