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e. nvm found the thread https://twitter.com/SlinkDiamond1/status/1455989381899030531?s=20&t=X-fW83s-HjGG63DCCr_mjg Man Musk fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Mar 21, 2022 |
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there's been a massive leak from an insider / playtester, complete with gameplay video of -9- future legends there's too much to post just check /r/apexuncovered if you want to see
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best thing there is Crypto heirloom. owns.
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Mar 23, 2022 03:59
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I wonder what the next weapon set it going to be. I feel like assault rifles are pretty one note right now. R-301 and hemlock both tend toward long range damage, I never pick up the havoc, and only sometimes think you craft the flatline. So with the floor guns just not a lot of variation. The smgs all feel distinct as do the lmgs.
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Carillon posted:I wonder what the next weapon set it going to be. I feel like assault rifles are pretty one note right now. R-301 and hemlock both tend toward long range damage, I never pick up the havoc, and only sometimes think you craft the flatline. So with the floor guns just not a lot of variation. The smgs all feel distinct as do the lmgs. I actually love that the flatline is craftable. I forget it exists and then someone accidentally crafts it and I remember why it's the best AR in the game.
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TLDR version of the leaked gun WIP's: machine gun bow with a charged shot for a arc-star detonation, light ammo LMG, akimbo energy pistols with charged shot, some too-early-to-tell energy guns
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lmao that first one would be the funniest thing they could possibly add to the game
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Carillon posted:I wonder what the next weapon set it going to be. I feel like assault rifles are pretty one note right now. R-301 and hemlock both tend toward long range damage, I never pick up the havoc, and only sometimes think you craft the flatline. So with the floor guns just not a lot of variation. The smgs all feel distinct as do the lmgs. There might be some change coming to the R301 as they apparently plan on removing its ability to use 3x/2x-4x scopes and (level 3?) stocks according to this mined data. Not sure who asked for this but OK. R301 tending toward long range damage though? It's more of a long-midrange deal IMO, being able to do some limited, mostly ineffective poking at proper long range. Hemlok is a very different weapon from the R301, both in handling and effective combat range. I mean, it's a burst/tap weapon, how does that blend together with a full automatic AR? I keep trying to attach sniper stocks to it for some reason because I apparently mentally categorize alongside the marksman weapons. Havoc is more of a close/mid range one, and deals crazy damage if one can manage the recoil - and again, this is something completely different from the R301 and Hemlok in handling. The Flatline can be crafted at any time for 30 craft bux so it's honestly never been easier to be guaranteed to get a hold of it, but I agree it's annoying not being able to find it on the floor. I guess what I'm saying is that it to me seems weird to complain about a lack of variety in assault rifles when you only use half of them, and that the R301 and Hemlok are nothing alike either.
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Mar 23, 2022 10:48
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Those attachment limitations are part of the way weapons are coded internally or something, not a roundabout way for them to nerf it in the next patch. I bet it gets care packed next since it’s become the go to the way the Flat was last season.
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Mar 23, 2022 11:48
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Maybe one day they could try buffing the poo poo weapons instead of dragging everything good down into the mud or hidden away in care packages.
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Mar 23, 2022 12:08
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They did that, its why the mozambique is currently the best shotgun. I'm only half joking
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PK is loving nutty right now too, is the only reason i wouldn't unconditionally agree. the non-eva 8s have had a lot of love lately
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Mar 23, 2022 12:19
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Yeah I *8* Love *8* the *8* PK *16* it *8* owns. I suck with it tho.
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Mar 23, 2022 12:43
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maggie who has recently ulted can slide so loving far, too. you can get a double reload sometimes.
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Does anyone ever get ... I dont know how to describe it other than *stuck* sliding after they hit a maggie boost?
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ZeusCannon posted:Does anyone ever get ... I dont know how to describe it other than *stuck* sliding after they hit a maggie boost? Yes. I think it's hilarious because you're still getting boosted while stuck in the slide. Like wave-dashing across the battlefield.
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looks like blisk was scrapped at some point, he's no longer on the roster
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Keito posted:There might be some change coming to the R301 as they apparently plan on removing its ability to use 3x/2x-4x scopes and (level 3?) stocks according to this mined data. Not sure who asked for this but OK. R301 tending toward long range damage though? It's more of a long-midrange deal IMO, being able to do some limited, mostly ineffective poking at proper long range. I dunno, I’ve felt a bit limited with mid to longer range weapons recently also. Pretty much every game I end up with some combo of flatline/301/rampage and a shotgun or SMG. Sometimes just the CAR and a shotgun. None of the energy weapons feel worth keeping after early game post the L-Star nerfs. If you manage to get a turbo the devotion seems decent, but even then you have to deal with the constant search for energy ammo. Havoc feels fine early but after that it doesn’t feel good enough at range and there are so many good close-mid range guns already. For heavy guns the hemlok feels strictly worse than the 301/flatline/rampage so it’s mostly just a temporary attachment carrier for me. Maybe I’m just sleeping on some good weapons here though?
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I don't think this is anyone else's experience but I have a lot easier time hip firing with the hemlok and prowler compared to other guns in the same weight range. And triple take is still really good.
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Mar 23, 2022 19:50
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both those received hipfire buffs in the last two seasons, yeah. i don't think the hipfire from the care package prowler ever went away. the l-star is still good but a bit like the devo and turbo you absolutely need a purple stab for it. it still kicks like gently caress close range from the hip too.
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Devotion is godly if you're aping. Just hipfire and try to stick it right in their guts.CoolCab posted:both those received hipfire buffs in the last two seasons, yeah. i don't think the hipfire from the care package prowler ever went away. Hemlok hipfire only got buffed because they nerfed it too much previously. It's still worse than it was prior to the initial nerf but is okay. It and the Prowler are still two of my favorite weapons. Prowler is much better for hipfiring though imo.
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Since I’m stuck on a bus:  I feel like this is probably my personal tier list in terms of which weapons feel strongest when I use them, where ideally I’d only be using stuff from S and A, maybe using stuff from B/C if I happen to get good attachments for them. Most of the stuff below S/A feels like I’m handicapping myself a bit though- some because they feel weaker than a close substitute even tho they are good (eg Hemlok), and some because I’m just bad at them even though they are a good gun (eg Wingman, Longbow). I could see someone who is better at the Prowler ranking it more on par with the other SMGs too for example. https://tiermaker.com/create/apex-legends-weapons-season-11-1355652 From a fun perspective I feel like the main change would be that wingman and 30-30 would jump right up near the top of the list. 30-30 feels really fun to use, but also like I just can’t be as effective as a flatline or 301 overall  .
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Wingman is definitely top tier. 2 or 3 long range shots can just win you a fight the same as 2 good Charge rifle shots can. 30-30 is just a weaker Wingman in basically every way. Yeah you can throw a 2-4 or a 3x on there, but 9 times out of 10 you're better off with a 2x on Wingman for the same range but also way better at mid and close. Wingman and CAR/301 has been my go to this season and it's a ton of fun. 301 feels like a good neutral point all other guns should be balanced around. Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Mar 23, 2022 |
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 something like this imo Flatline would be A tier if they hadn't nerfed damage this season.
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Did one, but it's not related to any kind of balance or what I think are the actual best guns, it's just my personal preference. E is meme tier, F is something I actively refuse unless I have literally no other option on a hot drop, and then I'll get rid of it at the first moment I can.  Yes, there is only one gun in F.
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to the lone gibraltar who must have been griefing his team: thanks for choosing my random watson fence to suicide with
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Im not arguing it because I loving love the C.A.R but why is it S tier? I always pick it because it's a short to mid smg that can take a slew of attachments and has good to great hipfire.
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the car is really great because it has good to great hipfire, flexibility in ammo attachments and is good at close to mid range. it also deals alot of damage very very quickly.
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ZeusCannon posted:Im not arguing it because I loving love the C.A.R but why is it S tier? Higher DPS than R-99, more damage per mag than the R-99, easier to control recoil than the R-99 because of the slower fire rate, and can use light or heavy ammo. The main downside is that bullet speed is a slower so you have to lead more at mid range. The R-99 is supposed to be the skill weapon but there's no real benefit to using it over the CAR.
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I think all my best games this season have been CAR + shotgun. Which probably means it's getting nerfed
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car is waaaaay better as a team player weapon too. if you are communicating clearly you can eg toss your bud your remaining heavy and just stick to light, share attachments a lot more fluidly. very very versatile gun rn
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there's like, literally two cases where I use the havoc and it's when it's the only gun I can get on a hot drop OR when I've already got a turbocharger and a good energy mag, but I haven't found a devotion yet. The p2020 is a gun that's godlike for upwards of 120 seconds into the round and then drops down to useless which makes it a weird one to consider for a tier list. If I land on a p2020 with like 3 teams nearby I'm thrilled, because it lets you just poo poo out fairly accurate bullets with next to no downtime, but I couldn't imagine choosing to leave the hotdrop with one, you know? edit: This is a stealth "is there any secret p2020 strats I've never seen, or have the dev team ever talked about giving it something to make it usable lategame?" post, btw. egg tats fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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it's been very significantly buffed (it does more bonus damage to flesh than either of the other hammerpoint weapons) but that doesn't make it as good as them since they're better at other stuff.
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I prefer the Havoc over the devotion. With a turbocharger it absolutely pumps fools at close-midrange and the recoil is an absolute breeze to control.
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the secret of the havoc is you have to prefire it until you get turbo which is different to all other guns (doesn't work as well with the devotion since it fires in the spinup). if you know you're about to turn a corner and fire you gotta be pressing that button before you leave cover.
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https://twitter.com/playapex/status/1507009456671887379
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CoolCab posted:it's been very significantly buffed (it does more bonus damage to flesh than either of the other hammerpoint weapons) but that doesn't make it as good as them since they're better at other stuff. oh yeah, these days if I'm feeling spicy I'll hold onto a moz, and the RE45 is a legit good gun, but finding a p2020 when you've got anything already in your hands is only ever good if you happen to need a bit of light ammo. but when everyone around has white shields and 0-1 guns, the p2020 is king (actually the moz is still probably my preference for hot drops but I digress) ErKeL posted:I prefer the Havoc over the devotion. With a turbocharger it absolutely pumps fools at close-midrange and the recoil is an absolute breeze to control. oh yeah, I've been melted by a havoc often enough to know that it can be good, BUT I know I'm useless with it without a turbo, and I prefer a Devotion if I have a turbo, so it's been so rare to actually use one that I've never bothered getting good with it (and even if I did I'd probably still rather have any other energy weapon)
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egg tats posted:The p2020 is a gun that's godlike for upwards of 120 seconds into the round and then drops down to useless which makes it a weird one to consider for a tier list. If I land on a p2020 with like 3 teams nearby I'm thrilled, because it lets you just poo poo out fairly accurate bullets with next to no downtime, but I couldn't imagine choosing to leave the hotdrop with one, you know? I'd say the P2020 is quite viable as a finisher weapon with Hammerpoint, four body shots to down a shield broken enemy which is easy to land considering its speed and accuracy. If you're decent with the Mozambique that's probably the better choice though, but I guess P2020 allows for a bit longer range.
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CoolCab posted:the secret of the havoc is you have to prefire it until you get turbo which is different to all other guns (doesn't work as well with the devotion since it fires in the spinup). if you know you're about to turn a corner and fire you gotta be pressing that button before you leave cover. That’s not a secret that’s just how the gun works? That’s like, the whole thing.
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Bottom Liner posted:That’s not a secret that’s just how the gun works? That’s like, the whole thing. you say that and yet the amount of times i see someone pop out of cover and furiously stare at me while i mulch them says differently
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