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Javik the Seer
Oct 11, 2021
I thought the idea would be pretty popular amongst folks, I'm surprised so many think it would work out that way.

If folks could craft banners after they've timed out, I think there are enough variables and uncertainty that it wouldn't make sense to do the "one in safety" strat. Relying on crafting (200 mats or more if you wanted to respawn two people!), relying on finding a suitable beacon (or crafting your own, even more mats!), relying on a SAFE respawn, and being able to re-kit two people in time to reengage without being found and having to do it all over again just doesn't seem viable. You'd be able to do it maybe once and that is only if you say, died IMMEDIATELY, and another person was off at a crafter before other teams found and engaged you. The most common outcome is that all you'd be doing is feeding other teams free RP as you die immediately and then die again. It simply leaves open a window to still have folks engaged and attempting to play rather than going afk once their banner times out.

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Audax
Dec 1, 2005
"LOL U GOT OWNED"
Hot take: i like to shootmans pew pew

Also respawn when u gib rocket launcher???

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


So I have a new idea for a crypto passive buff that I've yet to see mentioned before. It's called Off The Grid. Basically crypto is no longer affected by enemy scans. How it would work is that if you are scanned by an enemy, crypto would not be scanned. So if you have a bloodhound, and the bloodhound scans you, you wouldn't be scanned. Same with a Seer. If you get twerked on by Lil Seer X and he shoves his micro drones up uranus, you wouldn't be scanned or detected by Seer. So enemy scans don't scan you. And this would work for all scan abilities. The anti scan if you will. This would work with balancing and lore wise because crypto is a hacker and his whole premise is staying undetected and "off the grid" (the name of the ability) . Let me know what you guys think :)

Javik the Seer
Oct 11, 2021

SKULL.GIF posted:

So I have a new idea for a crypto passive buff that I've yet to see mentioned before. It's called Off The Grid. Basically crypto is no longer affected by enemy scans. How it would work is that if you are scanned by an enemy, crypto would not be scanned. So if you have a bloodhound, and the bloodhound scans you, you wouldn't be scanned. Same with a Seer. If you get twerked on by Lil Seer X and he shoves his micro drones up uranus, you wouldn't be scanned or detected by Seer. So enemy scans don't scan you. And this would work for all scan abilities. The anti scan if you will. This would work with balancing and lore wise because crypto is a hacker and his whole premise is staying undetected and "off the grid" (the name of the ability) . Let me know what you guys think :)

I actually had a similar idea so I like it quite a bit. I love the idea of making players more unique and somewhat a counter to certain abilities.

puppy party
Sep 21, 2008
Oooh yeah let's do dream character updates, that's more fun than this stupid banner chat.

Let Loba snatch banners from Ult. And let her open extra compartments on blue pills already. Also fix her bracelet. Give her a finisher where she cries a single tear when she finishes Valk (maybe kiss goodbye??? lore???)

Also let Gibby buttslam people by jumping over them and hitting crouch to buttslam them. Enemies phase inside of him and give him energy to become a bigger boy with more damage resistance. If you go inside Gibster you gotta play a pipe maze mini game to get out of him and if you lose you gotta wait until he gets someone else and then Gulag against the other player to get outta him.

Make Lifeline's passive that if you pick her it just deletes her from the game because lol she sucks.

Give bald wraiths a passive that they go 5% faster because she's more aerodynamic.

Hmmmm what else.

Valk should have a custom flight animation where any time she Ults with Loba they hug (maybe kiss??? lore???) as they fly up.

OK that's all for now I think.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
gibby gulag should just be a bubble fight with mozams no attachments

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

SKULL.GIF posted:

So I have a new idea for a crypto passive buff that I've yet to see mentioned before. It's called Off The Grid. Basically crypto is no longer affected by enemy scans. How it would work is that if you are scanned by an enemy, crypto would not be scanned. So if you have a bloodhound, and the bloodhound scans you, you wouldn't be scanned. Same with a Seer. If you get twerked on by Lil Seer X and he shoves his micro drones up uranus, you wouldn't be scanned or detected by Seer. So enemy scans don't scan you. And this would work for all scan abilities. The anti scan if you will. This would work with balancing and lore wise because crypto is a hacker and his whole premise is staying undetected and "off the grid" (the name of the ability) . Let me know what you guys think :)

Audax
Dec 1, 2005
"LOL U GOT OWNED"

Javik the Seer posted:

I actually had a similar idea so I like it quite a bit. I love the idea of making players more unique and somewhat a counter to certain abilities.

i think you got baited by a copypasta

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

While it is at least a novel idea. it really doesn't sound very fun. Setting aside how impatient players will still just dc in unranked anyway, in ranked it'll add another layer of things for people to be toxic about.

IMO it just sounds boring and tedious. Being able to craft banners doesn't really add anything meaningful to the game. In fact it takes away a number of choices that cause interactions between players, and not in a fun way as had already been pointed out. Gamers are also liable to immediately figure out the most degenerate strats possible and it's pretty easy to see how your suggestion could immediately be abused Javik.



puppy party posted:

Oooh yeah let's do dream character updates, that's more fun than this stupid banner chat.


OK that's all for now I think.

poo poo you right banner chat is dumb uhhh

what if they added a dog legend? Just run around shooting a gun mounted on your dog back, and you're even smaller than wraith. Your passive is your teammates can pet the dog to heal it.

the tacticool would be barking at people that makes enemies have to run away because dang watch out the dog is coming


the ultimate just wins you the game, because every dog had its day- I mean game.

Evil Kit fucked around with this message at 15:45 on May 26, 2022

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005
dog legend but they give it a human hitbox

boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005

Evil Kit posted:

poo poo you right banner chat is dumb uhhh

what if they added a dog legend? Just run around shooting a gun mounted on your dog back, and you're even smaller than wraith. Your passive is your teammates can pet the dog to heal it.

the tacticool would be barking at people that makes enemies have to run away because dang watch out the dog is coming


the ultimate just wins you the game, because every dog had its day- I mean game.

this would loving suck poo poo because then id have to shoot a drat dog every match and live with myself afterward, you monster

Javik the Seer
Oct 11, 2021

Audax posted:

i think you got baited by a copypasta

haha maybe.

I've seen those ideas suggested before though like why does Seer see heartbeats on characters that don't have one (Rev/Pathfinder/Ash). It would make total sense for Crypto to confound scans and stuff like that in some way as a kinda passive perk.



Evil Kit posted:

While it is at least a novel idea. it really doesn't sound very fun. Setting aside how impatient players will still just dc in unranked anyway, in ranked it'll add another layer of things for people to be toxic about.

IMO it just sounds boring and tedious. Being able to craft banners doesn't really add anything meaningful to the game. In fact it takes away a number of choices that cause interactions between players, and not in a fun way as had already been pointed out. Gamers are also liable to immediately figure out the most degenerate strats possible and it's pretty easy to see how your suggestion could immediately be abused Javik.


If they are gonna DC anyway, then no harm no foul. But for those non toxic ones, it gives a chance to keep playing the game. I actually have Bill Respawn on the other line and they seem receptive to the idea, expect to see it in the next patch.



Re: legend updates, every time we have to hear one of Newcastles cringey dad lines, everyone that can hear it takes 1 hit point of damage. Not shields, directly to health.

puppy party
Sep 21, 2008

Evil Kit posted:

what if they added a dog legend? Just run around shooting a gun mounted on your dog back, and you're even smaller than wraith. Your passive is your teammates can pet the dog to heal it.

the tacticool would be barking at people that makes enemies have to run away because dang watch out the dog is coming

the ultimate just wins you the game, because every dog had its day- I mean game.

You're close but not quite there because this is asking people to shoot a dog which wtf Kit.

New Legend is Cesar Millan. Tac is he has a tube of tennis balls (3) that he can throw to summon a prowler (1 per tennis ball). Can be thrown at enemies to make prowler fight bad people. If prowlers are merc'd they phase shift out of existence (NO KILL THE PETS PLZ). After you are out of tennis balls you gotta pick up the old tennis balls off the ground or craft more at crafter. Ult is whistle that pulls all enemy wildlife in area towards enemies. Passive is not being attacked by wildlife and ability to pet wildlife for health and possibly attachment drop because they are so pleased with pets.

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

puppy party posted:

You're close but not quite there because this is asking people to shoot a dog which wtf Kit.

New Legend is Cesar Millan. Tac is he has a tube of tennis balls (3) that he can throw to summon a prowler (1 per tennis ball). Can be thrown at enemies to make prowler fight bad people. If prowlers are merc'd they phase shift out of existence (NO KILL THE PETS PLZ). After you are out of tennis balls you gotta pick up the old tennis balls off the ground or craft more at crafter. Ult is whistle that pulls all enemy wildlife in area towards enemies. Passive is not being attacked by wildlife and ability to pet wildlife for health and possibly attachment drop because they are so pleased with pets.

the dog secret passive is if you try to shoot the dog the game's autoaim goes negative and makes you aim away.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Gimme a beast master legend that can throw those spiders at people. Some of my really funny fights are noticing some team is under a ton of those eggs and just tapping them all.

life_source
May 11, 2008

i got tired of looking at your edgy baby avatar that a 14-year old would be proud of
Stupid idea that would never work: Ultimate is a chaff grenade that replaces all models with the Spectre model and friendly fire is turned on. All kills get rewarded to the legend who used it.

Stupid idea that would work: Ultimate is being able to craft any attachment or hop up onto any gun.

Boosted Loader P2020 with sniper stock and supressor

Turbocharger Charge Rifle

Scattershot Devotion

Deadeye Tempo Mastiff

Double Tap Trigger Wingman

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Should just add the mobile legend to the real game.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
legend with an ult that's just the dogs killstreak from call of duty but with the jurassic park prowlers

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
Crypto being immune to scans would be extremely cool

yo mamma a Horus
Apr 7, 2008

Nap Ghost

SKULL.GIF posted:

So I have a new idea for a crypto passive buff that I've yet to see mentioned before. It's called Off The Grid. Basically crypto is no longer affected by enemy scans. How it would work is that if you are scanned by an enemy, crypto would not be scanned. So if you have a bloodhound, and the bloodhound scans you, you wouldn't be scanned. Same with a Seer. If you get twerked on by Lil Seer X and he shoves his micro drones up uranus, you wouldn't be scanned or detected by Seer. So enemy scans don't scan you. And this would work for all scan abilities. The anti scan if you will. This would work with balancing and lore wise because crypto is a hacker and his whole premise is staying undetected and "off the grid" (the name of the ability) . Let me know what you guys think :)

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007

Rev orbs become nearly transparent for allies and obnoxiously garishly opaque and bright for enemies.

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007

And I'll reup my idea that charged sentinel shots should spillover through a single layer of non-knockdown barrier for 40%~ damage, with a hop up that speeds up the charge time and ups the spill damage to 60%~.

Tokubetsu
Dec 18, 2007

Love Is Not Enough
They should make revenant some kind of vampire, that would be cool. Vampires are cool (and sexy, not that revenant isn't already the sexiest legend).

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



The next legend should be Morbius

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

Abroham Lincoln posted:

The next legend should be Morbius


Moebius from Legacy of Kain.

We really need to aim more at the super elderly for new Legend ideas. Just imagine him running around with his staff and those loose robes.

Tokubetsu
Dec 18, 2007

Love Is Not Enough
I am still waiting for them to add an ultimate thats just a titan with the cpu chip in it or w/e that makes it accurate against players from titanfall

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer

SKULL.GIF posted:

So I have a new idea for a crypto passive buff that I've yet to see mentioned before. It's called Off The Grid. Basically crypto is no longer affected by enemy scans. How it would work is that if you are scanned by an enemy, crypto would not be scanned. So if you have a bloodhound, and the bloodhound scans you, you wouldn't be scanned. Same with a Seer. If you get twerked on by Lil Seer X and he shoves his micro drones up uranus, you wouldn't be scanned or detected by Seer. So enemy scans don't scan you. And this would work for all scan abilities. The anti scan if you will. This would work with balancing and lore wise because crypto is a hacker and his whole premise is staying undetected and "off the grid" (the name of the ability) . Let me know what you guys think :)

Id like this also give Bangalore the ability to snuff fire with her smoke like in titanfall

Tetrabor
Oct 14, 2018

Eight points of contact at all times!

Tokubetsu posted:

I am still waiting for them to add an ultimate thats just a titan with the cpu chip in it or w/e that makes it accurate against players from titanfall

A pilot with a mobility kit and titan ult would be legit. Just give em some drawbacks like less inventory space and max purple shields.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
A pilot would murder everyone.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
I feel like a titan would distract slightly from the regular flow of a gun fight in apex when it fires bullets large enough to turn characters into a red mist.

Tokubetsu
Dec 18, 2007

Love Is Not Enough
Make it super slow to charge, only lasts 60 seconds. Give it that semi-auto 40mm? cannon i forgot what it's called. Obviously it can't follow in a lot of the areas on these maps but just think about how cute it'd be trying to pathway around to you while thud thudding.

It's nice to dream.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
There's absolutely no way to balance a titan ult, but there COULD be a special titan themed map/mode where there are a limited number of damaged titans you can work to bring online, with the final ring culminating in a titan brawl both supported and opposed by teamsl members that couldn't get one.

Spread the various parts out to make teams either go fetch them, or camp the titan frames, etc etc.

Truspeaker
Jan 28, 2009

Ooh are we doing dumb ult ideas? Mine is you get to see everyone on the servers (or, fine, in a huge rear end aoe) pings for like 30 seconds. Both on screen and in the map. People affected know they are, and if they don't ping every, idk 5 seconds they get revealed somehow.

It would probably completely ruin the game, but it also would be very annoying.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
Am I wrong in thinking that lifelines abilities are a bit under utilized in Arena? Or am I sleeping on just how powerful her automated revive and heal are?

I know that, as was pointed out earlier in ranked discussion, guns and gun play matter far, far more than character, but I'd be curious to hear how people think the various kits work in Arena vs Royale. I'm sure I'm being secret MMR'd into bronze or silver Arena btw, so please feel free to mention high level comparisons but it may be less applicable to me personally.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
buy gold backpack be incredibly broken

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
they took away her shield specifically because it'd be so imba in arenas

ErKeL
Jun 18, 2013
Potential to revive is a very real advantage to her in Arena. This however is shared and better utilised by the MvP of Apex: Mirage. Gold backpack that bad boy every round and you'll carry the team to wins.

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore
Arenas is just a teamfight where you know you won't be 3rd partied. As such in the higher lobbies people instantly w when they get a man advantage which makes it hard to get value from lifeline or any of the other res heroes.

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

she does get extra heals out of the blue pills which is not insignificant. It can really help you outlast the other time in pokewars.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


I only play Arenas for (much needed) shooting practice for the main game.

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