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kater
Nov 16, 2010

but i want my bocek nowwwwwwwwww

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Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

CAR back on the ground will be nice. Whenever a weapon is in the crafter it basically ceases to exist for my idiot brain.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
30-30 Was in that weird spot of being good but filling the same niche as the wingman which had better up close poking, so the wingman was just better.

The sniper ammo change means shotgun/wingman with 1 tab of ammo each or 2 tabs for wingman won't be all that's needed for a entire match and puts it more in line with literally every other gun loadouts ammo limitations on backpack space.

My poor friend has been directly targeted by the care package weapon changes constantly, first his scout and volt went in so he became a bocek god, now the bocek is in it.

Tweak
Jul 28, 2003

or dont whatever








Relyssa posted:

CAR back on the ground will be nice. Whenever a weapon is in the crafter it basically ceases to exist for my idiot brain.

Same I was just recently trying to figure out why I never saw it this season

Sai-kun
Feb 6, 2011

Is it ever going to be enough, to love another and be loved?
KC changes look pretty good. I'm glad for the lighting changes as well.

Lexusbeat
Jul 8, 2008

SKULL.GIF posted:

I am almost certain laser sights are going to be OP as gently caress. The SMG hipfire was already pretty good, imagine a R99 nerd with laser sights.

Given recoil actually doesn't do anything if you strafe while shooting, I wouldn't really worry about it being OP.

The mechanic is if your view is moving more than 3.3 degrees per second while in ads, there is no recoil pattern. Give it go in the firing range!

I think I've posted about it before, it's such a counterintuitive mechanic I just can't get over it.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


And here I am, having memorized the recoil patterns of the 301, Flatline, and Havoc like some sort of tryhard.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Lexusbeat posted:

Given recoil actually doesn't do anything if you strafe while shooting, I wouldn't really worry about it being OP.

The mechanic is if your view is moving more than 3.3 degrees per second while in ads, there is no recoil pattern. Give it go in the firing range!

I think I've posted about it before, it's such a counterintuitive mechanic I just can't get over it.

yup, it's to prevent hard kick from screwing up when you're trying to do a 180 or something and making you look above your target, i think. you can also achieve no recoil by drawing small circles on the target with your mouse or causing the mouse sensor to vibrate, either via mechanical means or with an arm tensing trick. all too much for me but the circles trick really helps with slower firing weapons (lstar and flatline) particularly.

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
so that’s why people nail me with every bullet in their flatline full speed while I’m maybe hitting 70% of my shots standing still

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



There's also the trick where you can ads and start firing then switch to hipfire while you're still firing and you get ads accuracy while hipfiring for about half a second.

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.


Everything looks awesome except the EVA 8 buffs. Leave it in the dirt Respawn. Please.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

they call it the eva 8 because when you see it you turn 8 degrees and walk away

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

Evil Kit posted:

Everything looks awesome except the EVA 8 buffs. Leave it in the dirt Respawn. Please.

Agreed with this. I was perfectly happy to let the EVA languish in the dumpster forever. Please keep it there.

repiv posted:

they call it the eva 8 because when you see it you turn 8 degrees and walk away

they call it the eva 8 because that's how much damage you'll do with it

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007

What's dumb is to ever get into the position where you're coding the ability to ADS with a shotgun.

puppy party
Sep 21, 2008
Nah, EVA8 rules (when it hasn’t been nerfed to poo poo for being too good). Excited to see it (hopefully) be good again.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

I would like a 3rd viable shotgun

Tokubetsu
Dec 18, 2007

Love Is Not Enough

puppy party posted:

Nah, EVA8 rules (when it hasn’t been nerfed to poo poo for being too good). Excited to see it (hopefully) be good again.

Agreed. Glad to see Eva-8 rise again. Now they need to cast the spell on Prowler too :qq:

puppy party
Sep 21, 2008
The prowler is already good. I run it as a secondary often.

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



puppy party posted:

The prowler is already good. I run it as a secondary often.

Yah, prowler is still good post-nerf just not god tier like pre-nerf. Also I do miss the EVA being good. They nerfed it way too hard.

Tokubetsu
Dec 18, 2007

Love Is Not Enough
Who do you guys think they're gonna put on the main menu splash screen along with vantage?

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Tokubetsu posted:

Who do you guys think they're gonna put on the main menu splash screen along with vantage?

Any one of: Bloodhound, Pathfinder, Mirage.

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

Kild posted:

I would like a 3rd viable shotgun

Mastiff, PK, Mozambique?

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Chemmy posted:

Mastiff, PK, Mozambique?

Ones a care package weapon. It doesn't count

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Kild posted:

I would like a 3rd viable shotgun

Triple Take!

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

Kild posted:

I would like a 3rd viable shotgun

Batshit to me they added Maggie, gave her a custom animation for the mastiff, then vaulted it the next season. Please bring my boy back :(

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

Tokubetsu posted:

Agreed. Glad to see Eva-8 rise again. Now they need to cast the spell on Prowler too :qq:

Full-auto prowler was my favorite weapon back in the day.

kater
Nov 16, 2010

just played first game as valk, i love how many more buttons to press

runchild
May 26, 2010

420 smoke 🎨artisanal🍑 melange erryday

Vantage’s character page is up. It doesn’t have the full ability descriptions yet, but it does list the names. Combined with the gameplay trailer we can get a pretty good idea of what they do (yes I know the leak info exists, I don’t care).

Tactical - Echo Relocation
Send Echo to a location, do a boost jump up to him, and then a double jump from there.

Passive - Spotter's Lens
When ADS and looking at an enemy, you get a readout that shows legend name, distance, and I think the armor type of all 3 members of their squad. Knowing if they’re missing a teammate or two also seems useful.

Ultimate - Sniper's Mark
5-shot sniper rifle that also paints a target on the enemy when hit.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
so she's got a movement ability, a third party enabler, and a kraber, cool cool

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


My first impression is "a worse Valkyrie", to be honest. I wonder how her ult compares to actual sniper rifles, if they're equal or if it's just straight up better like Rampart's.

Up Circle
Apr 3, 2008
I think in the leak it wasn’t a very strong sniper

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

Up Circle posted:

I think in the leak it wasn’t a very strong sniper

50 damage initially 100 damage on consecutive shots. You get up to 5 shots, one for each 20% of charge.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Relyssa posted:

50 damage initially 100 damage on consecutive shots. You get up to 5 shots, one for each 20% of charge.

Why would I use this over a Longbow? Does the marker boost teammate damage or something?

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

SKULL.GIF posted:

Why would I use this over a Longbow? Does the marker boost teammate damage or something?

well, it's not a weapon slot right so you could carry two non-sniper weapons, ult and burn it and engage i guess?

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

SKULL.GIF posted:

Why would I use this over a Longbow? Does the marker boost teammate damage or something?

Yes, if you hit someone with it your teammates deal 15% more damage to them. Also, like CoolCab says, it doesn't take up a weapon slot.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
if it works exactly like shelia presumably you could take it out to use like binoculars too, assuming it comes with a good scope.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

CoolCab posted:

if it works exactly like shelia presumably you could take it out to use like binoculars too, assuming it comes with a good scope.

Looks like it comes with at least an 8x, unsure about other zoom settings. This is judging from the gameplay trailer, anyway. Using it for spotting since you would also get her passive info through it would be pretty nice.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
one of the leaks said that you didn't need full ult charge to pull out the sniper and each bullet just cost 20%. Don't really believe in this but it makes the spotting ability much better

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012

dragon enthusiast posted:

one of the leaks said that you didn't need full ult charge to pull out the sniper and each bullet just cost 20%. Don't really believe in this but it makes the spotting ability much better

I believe it. Seems like a natural extension to being able to put away Sheila and take it back out whenever or just put it on cooldown pro rated for how much you shot it.

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Tokubetsu
Dec 18, 2007

Love Is Not Enough
Sounds solid to me. Especially if you play with a decent team regularly and can hit sniper shots. The ADS info might make her popular in high rank/league play because I know a common strat there is to poke for armor information. Now all they have to do is spot you and not give themselves away or waste resources.

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