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Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Schneider Inside Her posted:

Yeah dropping is a weird one. Messing up a hotdrop pretty much dooms your entire team to death but there is no real indication or instruction on how to do it properly.

Be the first group to arrive somewhere. Work with your team. Is that the instruction you need, or specifically how to drop?

Zesty fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Apr 11, 2021

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Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman

Zesty posted:

Be the first group to arrive somewhere. Work with your team. Is that the instruction you need, or specifically how to drop?

I can hotdrop fine, I'm just saying that there is no real way to learn other than trial and error. If I am jumpmaster I can get my team to the ground early. But I have been playing semi-regularly since this game came out.

Brain In A Jar
Apr 21, 2008

Zesty posted:

Be the first group to arrive somewhere. Work with your team. Is that the instruction you need, or specifically how to drop?

It's more to do with how drops work, the physics, should you use your W boost, what happens if you do, etc.

The game could really benefit from a Pilot Wings-style training where you need to land in a circle from different places, beat AI there, something like that.

For such a core component of the game, it's really under-explained.

man in the eyeball hat
Dec 23, 2006

Capture the opening of the portal that connects this earth of 3D to one earth of 4D or 5D. Going to the 5D.

Brain In A Jar posted:

It's more to do with how drops work, the physics, should you use your W boost, what happens if you do, etc.

is there a reason not to hold W at all times?

Sir DonkeyPunch
Mar 23, 2007

I didn't hear no bell
This discussion has me worried I don’t actually know how to drop properly :ohdear:

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

man in the eyeball hat posted:

is there a reason not to hold W at all times?

Trolling your teammates

egg tats
Apr 3, 2010

man in the eyeball hat posted:

is there a reason not to hold W at all times?

I think that for a long drop you want to hold W and point down until you hit a high speed, then level out and stop boosting? not going to lie I'm mostly saying this so someone else can specifically tell me how I'm wrong

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



Sir DonkeyPunch posted:

This discussion has me worried I don’t actually know how to drop properly :ohdear:

Always look straight down when first dropping from the ship to get maximum speed. If you're dropping into a hotspot, jump when 600m from your target and aim just under where you want to land so you have maximum speed for the entire drop. Should be right about 147m/s. If you're trying for a far drop, jump 1,000m from your target and dive until you hit 145m/s, level out, then every time your speed drops to 135m/s dive until it gets back up to 145m/s then level out again.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
there's 2 stances you take when dropping, either your limbs are next to your body when dropping down for speed or spread out when going for distance.

the trick is that you can get a huge speed/distance boost when switching from the speed stance to the distance stance, so you drop down until you hit a certain speed, then level out to get that boost

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames

xtal posted:

I've enjoyed suggestions I've seen that her ult should work as a respawn beacon and permanent DOC

Give it at least a chance to have a red weapon in it

Gunder
May 22, 2003

Simone Magus posted:

Give it at least a chance to have a red weapon in it

I think that would be too much.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
This seems like a good time to ask this. The red weapons don't auto reload as if they had a gold mag, right? I think I would rather have a Volt or R99 with a gold mag, than a Prowler. And for Peacekeeper, I set up markets to steal it, and my team doesn't even bother. Kraber is the only weapon that seems really good, and it's still really hard to use since you need to land headshots

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
the prowler auto reloads but the kreber doesn't have any attachments afaik, it's just a kreber, and shotgun bolts don't autoreload so the PK can't.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames

xtal posted:

This seems like a good time to ask this. The red weapons don't auto reload as if they had a gold mag, right? I think I would rather have a Volt or R99 with a gold mag, than a Prowler.

Hmm yes please keep joining my matches and leaving Prowlers around, thank you ;)

MarshyMcFly
Aug 16, 2012

https://youtu.be/lldmXcrJ-84

Seems kinda real.

man in the eyeball hat
Dec 23, 2006

Capture the opening of the portal that connects this earth of 3D to one earth of 4D or 5D. Going to the 5D.

why the gently caress did my teammates just throw themselves off the map after we won two third parties in a row? they literally jumped off the map after we won the fight, both of them. i grabbed both banners because gently caress you for bailing in ranked, i solod to second

repiv
Aug 13, 2009


So the leakers are straight up sneaking into the internal beta Apex server now?

thats bold lol

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


man in the eyeball hat posted:

why the gently caress did my teammates just throw themselves off the map after we won two third parties in a row? they literally jumped off the map after we won the fight, both of them. i grabbed both banners because gently caress you for bailing in ranked, i solod to second

Did you ask them?

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

man in the eyeball hat posted:

why the gently caress did my teammates just throw themselves off the map after we won two third parties in a row? they literally jumped off the map after we won the fight, both of them. i grabbed both banners because gently caress you for bailing in ranked, i solod to second

You should of been a part of their psychic link to know which piece of loot they had mental dips on that you took.

Your own fault really.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010

repiv posted:

So the leakers are straight up sneaking into the internal beta Apex server now?

thats bold lol

i think all this stuff is already in the client, they're just tripping event flags early using voodoo

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

dragon enthusiast posted:

i think all this stuff is already in the client, they're just tripping event flags early using voodoo

They show the event stuff active in an actual match, which would surely require the event flags to also be tripped on the server

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBOqsgSyfss

I wonder if they've managed to coax the public client into connecting to server instances meant for internal QA testing, hence the "CERT" gamemode on the menu

repiv fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Apr 12, 2021

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




im super ready for apex deathmatch mode. it will let me get my wigglies out whenever i want, and also hopefully make the real matches a bit more focused.

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

Lipstick Apathy

man in the eyeball hat posted:

is there a reason not to hold W at all times?

A very rare edge case use is you can just float there and watch for a stray/solo enemy flight path. Then you chase them down and beat them up for a finisher.

You know, for your Finisher daily challenge.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

man in the eyeball hat posted:

why the gently caress did my teammates just throw themselves off the map after we won two third parties in a row? they literally jumped off the map after we won the fight, both of them. i grabbed both banners because gently caress you for bailing in ranked, i solod to second

Was one of them Octane and was it on Olympus? There's a video making the rounds of an octane using a jump pad to get to make a big-rear end jump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhugwJuhnY
Japanese octane has a weird voice, especially since his exclamation after the jump is the original voice actor.

runchild
May 26, 2010

420 smoke 🎨artisanal🍑 melange erryday

https://twitter.com/playapex/status/1381706566986915840

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010

So is caustic her dad or something?

life_source
May 11, 2008

i got tired of looking at your edgy baby avatar that a 14-year old would be proud of

George H.W. oval office posted:

So is caustic her dad or something?

Her dad is dead, and she see lots of similarities so she is projecting a little bit (a lot).

They also have the mutual respect of being intellectuals/scientists.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
no, but implicitly he's dying of whatever killed her father, probably cancer. caustic is breaking bad.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

Cruising the information superhighway
These comics need more panels. They're cramming too much poo poo in there. I feel like the hard limit of four images to a tweet are ruining them.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


The layout and flow are a mess, yeah.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
They are very very hard to read and follow. Anyone want to give it the Cliffnotes version for us?

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
Wattson, who sees her dead father in caustic, suspects his mass murder plans are because he's dying of cancer. other legends do not seem to have a problem with this. Wattson goes to caustics house to find out his mass murder plans. he threatens to gas her, she calls his bluff, he flips because she's the only person he has literally ever expressed any positive emotions about in any context.

Wattson tases him, disables the gas bomb or whatever and threatens him to go to the Mafia with the knowledge that he wanted to do mass chemical terrorism (?) and as such the characters are one again at their old equilibrium. the art is good, the writing is poor imo

tildes
Nov 16, 2018
What are the best new guns/which legends are currently considered pretty good? I haven’t played since season 1 or so, and I’m super out of the loop on any balance changes etc. Is there a place to look for current summaries?

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


tildes posted:

What are the best new guns/which legends are currently considered pretty good? I haven’t played since season 1 or so, and I’m super out of the loop on any balance changes etc. Is there a place to look for current summaries?

Horizon and Octane are the meme right now but any of the OG legends are still very very good.

The top guns right now are Anvil Receiver 301/Flatline (protip: prioritize explosive holds) and the Shitfire, but honestly they're all very closely balanced, just use whatever you're comfortable and effective with.

I had a win yesterday evening where I ran Longbow/Charge Rifle. It really does not matter what gun you have as long as you know their capabilities and play around them.

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

Lipstick Apathy
I'm not gonna lie, I initially thought the official apex twitter was retweeting fanfics with those comics.


Also when did Octane suddenly become meta? The last change I recall was his jumppad getting two modes of flight, which was a very good change, but was that enough to suddenly push him to the front?

Revitalized fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Apr 13, 2021

Cretin90
Apr 10, 2006

Revitalized posted:

I'm not gonna lie, I initially thought the official apex twitter was retweeting fanfics with those comics.


Also when did Octane suddenly become meta? The last change I recall was his jumppad getting two modes of flight, which was a very good change, but was that enough to suddenly push him to the front?

Insane vertical and horizontal mobility is a helluva drug.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Revitalized posted:

Also when did Octane suddenly become meta? The last change I recall was his jumppad getting two modes of flight, which was a very good change, but was that enough to suddenly push him to the front?

It wasn't just the jumppad change, it was also how it interacts with Revenant's death totem... and then Octane/Revenant becoming a popular pairing meant that the buff Octane got to his health regen in Season 7 suddenly became that much more important.

Live At Five!
Feb 15, 2008
Considering that apex is just a long continuous third party fight having huge mobility with low cooldowns is extremely fun and good.

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore

Revitalized posted:

I'm not gonna lie, I initially thought the official apex twitter was retweeting fanfics with those comics.


Also when did Octane suddenly become meta? The last change I recall was his jumppad getting two modes of flight, which was a very good change, but was that enough to suddenly push him to the front?

Octane became meta mostly because he now has the best horizontal team movement in the game and wraith got dumpstered between hitbox and portal changes

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Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Octane's passive doubling in effect didn't hurt either, it's fairly noticeable to jump up in health while repositioning and to mostly get your health back by the time the next one is ready.

Jump pads going from a joke to a legit top tier movement option was big too while every other option has seen nerfs to cooldown or safety, you can still snipe people on the trajectory even with the extra jump mixup but it's much less predictable and a faster moving target.

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