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Dyz
Dec 10, 2010

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10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

repiv posted:

The teaser quest is live now

1. Collect a special keycard from a care package, then click it on the main menu to start the quest
2. Scan special holo-sprays hidden around KC and Olympus

e: shrugtal posted maps of all the holo-spray locations if you can't be bothered hunting

And after you collect everything the rest doesn't unlock for 4 days.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Please Respawn, if Olympus is getting a revamp then just dump the new POI on top of Estates, or just better yet add a giant death chasm where it stands. I've hotdropped it 5 games in a row tonight and I wanna die it sucks so hard.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


SteelMentor posted:

Please Respawn, if Olympus is getting a revamp then just dump the new POI on top of Estates, or just better yet add a giant death chasm where it stands. I've hotdropped it 5 games in a row tonight and I wanna die it sucks so hard.

Mirage takeover event, where it looks like Estates but its actually just one of his holograms so you fly straight through and die while he laughs at you.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010





nailed it

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017

Intriguing.
I mentioned earlier that the various takeovers in 2021 seem to have been their way of experimenting with ways to extend the duration of the actiony part of a match. Today and yesterday playing with Ultra Zones it definitely feels like there's a lot more squads surviving to the 3rd ring and later on. Having 3 hot zones throughout the map splits up the dropship a lot better, and the healing from the flashpoints allows squads to stay fighting for much, much longer than baseline.

Just had a match where the Turbine had the ultra zone, and we had about 5 minutes straight of fighting on there. My squad finally came out on top because the other squads ran out of ammo :v: Walked out into Ring 2 with more than 1200 damage and red shields.

runchild
May 25, 2010

420 smoke 🎨artisanal🍑 melange erryday

Might be useful to know that each care package pops out three keycards and they land on the ground. They’re more inconspicuous than I expected and I went through three care packages before I noticed them :doh:

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.

SteelMentor posted:

Please Respawn, if Olympus is getting a revamp then just dump the new POI on top of Estates, or just better yet add a giant death chasm where it stands. I've hotdropped it 5 games in a row tonight and I wanna die it sucks so hard.

Estates but it's more like Fragment would be a lot better, I think. Really anything but a tiny town in the middle of a field.

denereal visease
Nov 27, 2002

"What we do is political. That should be impossible to misunderstand."

Been on the bench for the last 4 months, but I have otherwise played the poo poo out of this game since Launch.

How much has the meta shifted during Season 6 and 7?

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
I miss the Prowler, I can tell you that.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

denereal visease posted:

Been on the bench for the last 4 months, but I have otherwise played the poo poo out of this game since Launch.

How much has the meta shifted during Season 6 and 7?

Spitfire is good now

Regrettable
Jan 4, 2010



denereal visease posted:

Been on the bench for the last 4 months, but I have otherwise played the poo poo out of this game since Launch.

How much has the meta shifted during Season 6 and 7?

Horizon has a higher win rate than Wraith. Octane is also op, which I thought I would never say. Volt is a better SMG than the R-99. Snipers are actually good now. Quite a lot has changed.

man in the eyeball hat
Dec 23, 2006

Capture the opening of the portal that connects this earth of 3D to one earth of 4D or 5D. Going to the 5D.

Regrettable posted:

Horizon has a higher win rate than Wraith. Octane is also op, which I thought I would never say. Volt is a better SMG than the R-99. Snipers are actually good now. Quite a lot has changed.

I think Volt is kind of an intermediary between R-301 and R-99, but I haven't checked the DPS on the Volt. R-99 still lasers people up close, so I feel like the Volt fires a little too slow to beat the R-99 for a fixed length of fire time

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Volt with a sniper or Repeater, r99 with a scout. It's nice to only use one ammo type and that's hard with volt since the other energy weapons suck.

Ima Computer
Oct 28, 2007

Stop all the downloading!

Help computer.
I wish they'd bring back the single-fire mode of the havoc. It made dual-wielding energy almost viable.

Cretin90
Apr 10, 2006

man in the eyeball hat posted:

I think Volt is kind of an intermediary between R-301 and R-99, but I haven't checked the DPS on the Volt. R-99 still lasers people up close, so I feel like the Volt fires a little too slow to beat the R-99 for a fixed length of fire time

At least IMO, R-99 may have superior DPS but Volt has higher effective DPS because it's so controllable. I land significantly more shots with it.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Volt's control deffo puts it on level with the R-99 imo. R-99 often feels all or nothing, either you just delete someone from the game or you piss a full clip into the grass. Volt feels a lil' better when you're stuck at mid-range as well.

Regrettable
Jan 4, 2010



man in the eyeball hat posted:

I think Volt is kind of an intermediary between R-301 and R-99, but I haven't checked the DPS on the Volt. R-99 still lasers people up close, so I feel like the Volt fires a little too slow to beat the R-99 for a fixed length of fire time

R-99 has a TTK of .98 and Volt has TTK of 1.02 but you have to hit every bullet with the R-99 to get a kill whereas if you can do that with the Volt you can kill two people with purple shields in one purple mag. Volt's recoil is easier to control as well. I'll usually plop a 2x on it and use it as a 301 substitute.

Cretin90
Apr 10, 2006

Regrettable posted:

R-99 has a TTK of .98 and Volt has TTK of 1.02 but you have to hit every bullet with the R-99 to get a kill whereas if you can do that with the Volt you can kill two people with purple shields in one purple mag. Volt's recoil is easier to control as well. I'll usually plop a 2x on it and use it as a 301 substitute.

301 w/ anvil receiver and 2x/3x for medium to long range + volt with digi threat/1x classic is probably my favorite loadout.

Cretin90
Apr 10, 2006
ignore

runchild
May 25, 2010

420 smoke 🎨artisanal🍑 melange erryday

https://twitter.com/playapex/status/1383480415814512647

More oblique teasing

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017

Intriguing.
It seems fairly clear the new hero is meant to be Japanese (in the same way Horizon is meant to be Scottish) given the manga and candy from the previous image and the cherry blossoms, noodles & chopsticks, and paper walls.

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007

Insight: Try to discern the fuck they said.


God I hate Horizon. Love the character but fighting her is pre-nerf Wraith levels of unfun, gently caress it let's undo the damage you did with our dumb-rear end vertical wiggle dance and off to the races auruughhh.

Wraith however is actually not all that bad to play against now, I don't actively have a visceral reaction to seeing one anymore. Probably because all the top Wraith players have switched to Horizon :suicide:

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

SteelMentor posted:

Please Respawn, if Olympus is getting a revamp then just dump the new POI on top of Estates, or just better yet add a giant death chasm where it stands. I've hotdropped it 5 games in a row tonight and I wanna die it sucks so hard.

I have no idea why people like dropping there, everytime I've dropped there the loot is absolutely garbage and it isn't particularly interesting to fight inside yet it's constantly a rainbow of drop trails from half the server wanting to fight there.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017

Intriguing.

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

I have no idea why people like dropping there, everytime I've dropped there the loot is absolutely garbage and it isn't particularly interesting to fight inside yet it's constantly a rainbow of drop trails from half the server wanting to fight there.

It being like 90% floor loot means you can see what you're going to grab at a distance instead of having to roll the dice on the pillboxes, and the open nature of it means a somewhat more level playing field: if you get beaten to a drop just veer to the left or right and loot that building instead, something that doesn't really work as well at other POIs.

I prefer Gardens, it's somewhat more interesting to fight in and there's more loot overall.

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

Gardens (and a lot of other POI) benefit from the rat tunnels. A couple of service tunnels and a few more buildings with second and third floors would help Estates.

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

Songbearer posted:

God I hate Horizon. Love the character but fighting her is pre-nerf Wraith levels of unfun, gently caress it let's undo the damage you did with our dumb-rear end vertical wiggle dance and off to the races auruughhh.

Wraith however is actually not all that bad to play against now, I don't actively have a visceral reaction to seeing one anymore. Probably because all the top Wraith players have switched to Horizon :suicide:

I fully acknowledge it might be an intensely ignorant understanding of balance on my part, but I legitimately think you shouldn't be able to fire you gun while you're in the column of her gravity lift and she would still be a very strong character.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




Gumdrop Larry posted:

I fully acknowledge it might be an intensely ignorant understanding of balance on my part, but I legitimately think you shouldn't be able to fire you gun while you're in the column of her gravity lift and she would still be a very strong character.

hell yes. just have them do the skydiving-with-no-W or fell-into-lava wiggle

Live At Five!
Feb 15, 2008
I hate both Estates and Gardens, I usually drop either Bonsai or Oasis. Oasis is especially fun when you get there first and have free dibs on the gear in the basement. Nothing like grabbing a gold spitfire and a purple shield and just absolutely destroying any other team who dropped there.

Ramie
Mar 2, 2021

Grow Towers have always done right by me. As long as your whole squad all drops in the same tower, you have a fighting chance no matter what. You can always run away somewhere else, with a reasonable amount of cover, if any particularly killer squads drop in a neighboring tower.

Carrier is super good too. You always get to do a clean sweep, or you get a very fair fight. I always drop in the back and go for the bins up the stairs.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Grow Towers is basically the Olympus version of the Cage. They're both great for teams with vertical mobility that can go up and down easily. Also makes me miss Harvester.

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

Grow Towers would be a perfect place if they didn't spin. I want to like it but I always get frustrated looking out from there!

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017

Intriguing.
I like Grow Towers but I really despise the area around it. That entire stretch of land from Waterfall to Orbital Cannon is intensely open and really boring to fight in.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Skull Servant posted:

Grow Towers would be a perfect place if they didn't spin. I want to like it but I always get frustrated looking out from there!

Oh yeah and you can't use Loba bracelets or zipline gun on the moving parts :(

Dunno why they made them move since it breaks so many things and doesn't provide any real value

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Maybe in the reworked map the towers will break and stop spinning.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

SKULL.GIF posted:

It seems fairly clear the new hero is meant to be Japanese (in the same way Horizon is meant to be Scottish) given the manga and candy from the previous image and the cherry blossoms, noodles & chopsticks, and paper walls.

Oh, so Valk then?

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
If they have the hover passive and a TBD tactical then they should just go full Pharah with her and make it a knockback

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




Zesty posted:

Oh, so Valk then?



armored core lookin rear end legend

better have a moonlight bladedash

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.
On Olympus I like to drop Rift. It's just really easy to loot and fight there, there's so much loot compared to every other POI, and almost every dropship can reach it. Backup plan is Grow Towers or Hydroponics, but I'm not opposed to Carrier, Gardens, even Solar Array since its easy to slip in there opportunistically. Bonsai or Oasis are fine but teams gently caress them up by splitting over vast areas when they know there's an enemy team right there. To a degree this is true everywhere but having big vertical levels like that seems to make it worse.

The problem is that I only get to be jumpmaster 1/3 of the time and its pretty much guaranteed we're dropping Hammond, Estates, or Fight Night.

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George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010

Oasis aka 9/11 is my jam. Second would be Elysium since it seems no one ever goes there and you can rotate to two good spots

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