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Warad
Aug 10, 2019


Fart Car '97 posted:

I mean, is it really that cold corporate focus group to say "well we've strayed from the core of the franchise setting for 7 years so let's get back to it"?

Was just mentioning it as to why it might be rubbing some people wrong since it is still really blatant all things considered. Plus Battlefield 1982 would have been nice, just saying. Close enough to scratch that "modern warfare" itch for people, but keeping the aesthetic distinct from just "BF 3/4 again, but now featuring Boston Dynamics and Tornadoes"

Though admittedly both of those things are why I'm willing to give :dice: the benefit of the doubt for this one since they're both cool as all hell.

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DemonToadGoat
Jan 11, 2015



BF1 was an amazing game, intuitive on every level, Heck the respawn timer of the vehicles was even representing in an amazing way. I loved the pace and the costumes and the levels and the destructible environments.

This game looks like its gonna be quite different and I'm ok with that. bring on the near future paintball game with vehicles and tornados

Alehkhs
Oct 6, 2010

The Sorrow of Poets


Deakul posted:

The return of bots, I never thought I'd see the loving day.

They've been working on them for a while!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZsSx6kAi6Y

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006





Calling it now, that tornado will be the most annoying thing in the game if dice can actually figure out how to program it.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004



any word on Cross-platform support?

NFS: Heat was the latest Frostbite engine game released and supported it so I am hopeful.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM


After bouncing off BF5 pretty hard, I'm ready for this one. Guess I better start looking for a ps5.

Laserface posted:

any word on Cross-platform support?

NFS: Heat was the latest Frostbite engine game released and supported it so I am hopeful.

Yes, ps5 and Xbox being able to play together would be cool. Maybe we'll find out more during the gameplay reveal.

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?

Hair Elf

Laserface posted:

any word on Cross-platform support?

NFS: Heat was the latest Frostbite engine game released and supported it so I am hopeful.

for insane the player counts needed I would 100% expect crossplay

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004



I just have friends on all platforms and we have all played BF since BF3, but never together.

COD MW having cross-platform brought us all together during COVID so it was loving fantastic being locked inside and playing games with my friends on all systems. being able to steamroll a lobby with a crew of 6 or have 4v4 custom games was some of the best fun Ive had in a FPS in fuckin years.

V for Vegans
Jan 30, 2009


Blue Raider posted:

Calling it now, that tornado will be the most annoying thing in the game if dice can actually figure out how to program it.

Maybe they’ll forget to enable it like all of the weather levolution events in the China Rising DLC of BF4

Snuffman
May 21, 2004



Grimey Drawer

Warad posted:

Tying everyone to specific characters instead of just doing it like BF5 *promised* to do with class archetypes with more specialized abilities while allowing people to make whoever they want for customization does seem to kinda clash with their whole "War fought by PMCs and ragtag groups of people from various backgrounds and nationalities" idea and kinda a bummer since the character customization was one of the few things BF5 did sort of right.

So the characters are totally replacing traditional classes?

Here's my dumb fan-boy prediction:

We're limited to one of each character in our squads, all other squads will be portrayed as generic class soliders so not to break ~*~immersion~*~.

To "bring us into the game world" the characters will banter with one another during the map and flesh out their stories and the setting.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010



Blue Raider posted:

Calling it now, that tornado will be the most annoying thing in the game if dice can actually figure out how to program it.

Speculation, dragging bodies in BF5 did whatever the tornado is going to do and that’s why we never got it in 5. For 2042 they figured out how to put a tornado texture over the effect.

BlackIronHeart
Aug 1, 2004

The Oath Breaker's about to hit warphead nine Kaptain!


If you ever tried to tow an AT gun in BFV, you already know what the tornado will do.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014



Hell Gem

If they're ditching classes I don't really get the point in having premade dudes for games that aren't "hero shooters" (including Siege in this category) vs a character creator. It's not like they each have distinct profiles or visual identities that'll tell you what they're likely to do like a TF2 or an Apex or what have you.

Mordja fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jun 10, 2021

Gonkish
May 19, 2004



No classes is... weird. Seems like the usual MO of EA chasing trends rather than doing anything interesting. I mean with 128 players why even loving bother? It makes sense in Siege and Overwatch and poo poo, because they're a much smaller scale and thus team comp actually matters. In Battlefield, though? There's 64 people on your team, you will have every single "character" covered.

It's a very weird choice. Maybe they'll surprise us and it won't be stupid as gently caress, but I'm definitely skeptical.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

o fuk traffic

Warad posted:

Was just mentioning it as to why it might be rubbing some people wrong since it is still really blatant all things considered. Plus Battlefield 1982 would have been nice, just saying. Close enough to scratch that "modern warfare" itch for people, but keeping the aesthetic distinct from just "BF 3/4 again, but now featuring Boston Dynamics and Tornadoes"

Though admittedly both of those things are why I'm willing to give :dice: the benefit of the doubt for this one since they're both cool as all hell.

If anything, V was the result of cold focus group testing what with them trying to simplify everything, push GAMES AS A SERVICE and constantly pushing "e-sports ready" modes that none of the players wanted.

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013





very excited to pub stomp with goons again

really hope it has cross-platform with PC and consoles :getin:

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007


Hair Elf

Kentucky Friend Server when?

DrBox
Jul 3, 2004

Sombody call the doctor?

It seems like they still have classes, just with the specialist you pick being an extra perk within the class. So if you want to play support and use the support gadgets you also pick a specialist that gives you extra stuff. Maybe I misunderstood it though.

Warad
Aug 10, 2019


Honestly saying BF5 was the result of anything but sheer unadulterated chaos is doing a disservice even to focus groups.

I wish one day someone will drop a detailed postmortem on 5's development, since it's obvious there was A LOT going wrong with it from concept all the way to when they pulled the plug.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003



It's incredible there have been 2,041 of these games already

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003



Warad posted:

Honestly saying BF5 was the result of anything but sheer unadulterated chaos is doing a disservice even to focus groups.

I wish one day someone will drop a detailed postmortem on 5's development, since it's obvious there was A LOT going wrong with it from concept all the way to when they pulled the plug.

I just wish it didn't make you load the whole rear end HD player model every time you tried to change classes

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

o fuk traffic

Warad posted:



I wish one day someone will drop a detailed postmortem on 5's development, since it's obvious there was A LOT going wrong with it from concept all the way to when they pulled the plug.

Same but you know that ain't happening. Plus at this point we basically know the gist of it. Nepotism, too many cooks, rushed release date.

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service

Mordja posted:

If they're ditching classes I don't really get the point in having premade dudes for games that aren't "hero shooters" (including Siege in this category) vs a character creator. It's not like they each have distinct profiles or visual identities that'll tell you what they're likely to do like a TF2 or an Apex or what have you.

it's purely just following the COD skin monetisation strategy

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000



Looks interesting, but after BFV...

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

hope you're doing well


Au Revoir Shosanna posted:

it's purely just following the COD skin monetisation strategy

Battlefront 2: Oops, All Vaders Edition

Propaganda Hour
Aug 25, 2008

YOU PEOPLE ARE PIGS!



I passed on V at launch and only picked it up about two months ago. Seems fine? Maybe it's a case where I didn't play at launch or something, but I'm having a pretty good time with it. Not nearly a good as 1 or 4, but not a horrorshow.

owls or something
Jul 7, 2003



Is this one going to be an actual game? Or is it just another storefront for buying battlecoins to dress your future solder lady up with gimmick holiday themed attires?

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004



Au Revoir Shosanna posted:

it's purely just following the COD skin monetisation strategy

The Operators and skins are the worst part of CODMW (and I guess Cold War but i dont play cheap rip offs of COD)


without even touching on the gimp-suit skin that makes you mostly invisible (and you can only get it by buying it for $24) facing off against a team of just 6 people comprised of unique skins makes team play a bit of a pain in the rear end, especially when a teammates marker/name shows up and overlaps.

once again, the system used in Halo 3 was fine - custom armor that is the colour of your team.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Fart Car '97 posted:

Same but you know that ain't happening. Plus at this point we basically know the gist of it. Nepotism, too many cooks, rushed release date.

No matter what they can always say “at least it ain’t Anthem!”

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!




Propaganda Hour posted:

I passed on V at launch and only picked it up about two months ago. Seems fine? Maybe it's a case where I didn't play at launch or something, but I'm having a pretty good time with it. Not nearly a good as 1 or 4, but not a horrorshow.

You missed where the patch that made tanks not invisible made soldiers invisible instead, I guess.

Or the Germans jumping out of American planes with British SAS officers. Which they didn't want to fix because it would slow down map rollout, for reasons.

DrBox
Jul 3, 2004

Sombody call the doctor?

Propaganda Hour posted:

I passed on V at launch and only picked it up about two months ago. Seems fine? Maybe it's a case where I didn't play at launch or something, but I'm having a pretty good time with it. Not nearly a good as 1 or 4, but not a horrorshow.

I had a great time with BFV despite the flaws. The biggest issue was them playing with the TTK making it a lot less fun for large portions of the game's life.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008




Are we going to have 40 of the same specialist skin playing? Just an army of named characters.

I don't expect they'll replace them with generic soldier skins so you'll only see your squad with named guys because thatd defeat the purpose of buying a $30 skin to show off to other players.

The United States
Jul 18, 2004

Please grab the extinguisher


Melman v2

Foehammer007 posted:

Futuristic apron




fennesz posted:

Looks more like a poncho than an apron. smh
I think it's those weird giant shoulder pauldrons that are giving it the apron shape




Fried Watermelon posted:

Are we going to have 40 of the same specialist skin playing? Just an army of named characters.

The United States fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jun 10, 2021

Crazyeyes24
Sep 14, 2014

Your good vision is your fatal weakness!

The United States posted:



I think it's those weird giant shoulder pauldrons that are giving it the apron shape



He's the Night Surgeon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-9lWjE_cZc

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

SpartanIvy posted:

Kentucky Friend Server when?

:alarm:

Let's do it! I'll throw down :20bux: to have our own goon server.

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!


Crosby B. Alfred posted:

:alarm:

Let's do it! I'll throw down :20bux: to have our own goon server.

apparently someone donated bitcoins to the goon old server...we might be ok.

Symetrique
Jan 1, 2013






Ardent Communist posted:

apparently someone donated bitcoins to the goon old server...we might be ok.

Dice heard about this. Thats why theres a $100 edition

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010



Yea a goon server should be well funded in perpetuity

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

*~ I remember you! You were on a HORSEY! ~*



I hope whoever jumped that ATV into that chopper had the common goddamn decency to shout "ramp it!!!" as they did so

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Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:

Taco Defender

I'm really conflicted because I remember how disappointed I was in BFV and I shouldn't give DICE money, at least preorder money, but then I remember things like Kentucky Fried Server and want to play that again.

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