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sdr782
Jun 7, 2005

"I said it was dodgeball time, bitch."

Atheist Sunglasses posted:

I told Steam I was sold a lie, and beyond that the the game was outright unplayable.

This is the response I got from Steam

so idk, ask for Cyrus I guess

Did you request the refund after the "Official" launch date or during the early access period? I have ~10 hours played on steam and I requested refund and was denied.

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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Yerok posted:

Are there any non pp guns that are even worth using?

MP9, K30 Vektor, LCMG, AC42, SVK, both shotguns, any of the bolt action sniper rifles.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

Yerok posted:

Are there any non pp guns that are even worth using?

the giant sniper rifle that two-shots vehicles seems good

Budzilla posted:

So compared to other BF games on release how bad are the bugs? I've seen the videos but are they really that frequent?

I've fallen through the world a few times. Gotten the bug that prevents me from rezzing. Hard crashed once or twice. Corpses and dead vehicles pretty regularly do weird physics things. I've probably played 20 hours in total. It hasn't really turned me off the game at all. It's not like Cyberpunk bad.

Chad Sexington fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Nov 23, 2021

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Chad Sexington posted:

the giant sniper rifle that two-shots vehicles seems good
Takes a bit of grinding to get there.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Use Angel, drop loadout kit by you, use kit with soflam, target chopper with soflam, switch kit to recoiless rifle, bye bye birdy :evilbuddy:

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Collapsing Farts posted:

I wish they had 64 player versions of maps

They do on the PS4 and XB1 versions and I'm sorry to report that they still play terribly. Bummer.

Elerion
May 31, 2011

Hot Diggity! posted:

Use Angel, drop loadout kit by you, use kit with soflam, target chopper with soflam, switch kit to recoiless rifle, bye bye birdy :evilbuddy:

Can't wait to hit max level in this MMO.

afkmacro
Mar 29, 2009



Chad Sexington posted:

the giant sniper rifle that two-shots vehicles seems good

It's legit good, it's obviously slow between shots and the reload might make you want to pull your hair out but it's a really fun gun that makes the game good. You can harass tanks 300-400 meters out and kill them too if they're too dumb to move https://streamable.com/tj1lcu

Also there's a bug with changing loadouts with angel's box that lets you get as many rounds that your previous weapon had

afkmacro fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Nov 23, 2021

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

They do on the PS4 and XB1 versions and I'm sorry to report that they still play terribly. Bummer.

Someone said it here and I think it's true. The maps play like they were designed for Breakthrough. And they work quite well for that purpose IMO, even if they're missing lots of details and minor cover for better infantry combat.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"
Putting C5 on the ground behind a tank does more damage than the putting the C5 directly on the tank for reasons

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

DrBox posted:

I'm just checking out some of the guns that aren't viable yet in MP in solo. If you want a fast (cheesy) way to level guns I've found you can play solo Breakthrough on Kaleidoscope and quickly cap the first two sectors then spend 15-20 minutes on the roof mowing down bots. Just take the south elevator to the roof and run around quick to the south edge with lots of cover. Put down a spawn beacon and use Angel so you can keep giving yourself ammo. I've gotten ~500 kills in two rounds with the AC42.

This is a good tip. Cuts down on the slog in getting some attachments definitely. Reddit's already yelling about this map being impossible in MP so get it while it's hot before they move the last cap off the roof.

Budzilla
Oct 14, 2007

We can all learn from our past mistakes.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I think I will sit this one out for a bit and check it out in a few months. The bug reports are not surprising, it sounds more like business as usual for :dice:. I am a little concerned about gameplay reports.

Urethane
Dec 21, 2004

afkmacro posted:


Also there's a bug with changing loadouts with angel's box that lets you get as many rounds that your previous weapon had


lol excellent

Urethane
Dec 21, 2004

To get as much XP as possible while playing normally I've just been chucking proximity detectors at choke points, is there anything else I can really do?

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009

Booyah- posted:

To get as much XP as possible while playing normally I've just been chucking proximity detectors at choke points, is there anything else I can really do?

To get xp? Not really. To have fun? Lots. Hovercrafting around and harassing people is always fun as hell. I'm partial to the MAV/party wagon, which is way tankier and faster than it seems.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Budzilla posted:

So compared to other BF games on release how bad are the bugs? I've seen the videos but are they really that frequent?

Not catastrophic like BF4, but more that little bugs can start to pile up and get very annoying. Like someone previously said zero crashes. Game breaking bugs, a few times. I think I've played for about 35 hours. But you won't play a single round without some stupid poo poo happening with the UI or some balance issue getting in the way. If you have a high jank tolerance there is plenty of fun to be had, but if that kind of thing is going to ruin it for you just wait a couple of months until poo poo gets smoothed out and some new modes and maps drop.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I think Hazard Zone is a really fun and generally underrrated mode that I want to play more of, but the 30mm cannon on the jeep basically ruins it. It's the most broken balance ting in the entire game and the only reason no one is complaining is that not many people are playing Hazard Zone. Especially now that everyone seems to know about it. Whoever gets the Jeep spawn will just dominate the other teams. It's practically unplayable the second a jeep comes into play.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Saw a level 95 today. :eyepop:

Booyah- posted:

To get as much XP as possible while playing normally I've just been chucking proximity detectors at choke points, is there anything else I can really do?

Recon drone for the same reason. I just reached max rank on Casper by doing this a lot.

Also it can be outfitted with C5 to take out vehicles.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

So what exactly does the hack skill of the IT guy do to helicopters? Iíve been hacking them, switching to the stinger and they can still get flares off. Am I too slow or is this how it should work?

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

conquest mode is incredibly rear end. at least Portal is fun

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
I'm just soloing the suppressed LCMG. loving AI starts the same poo poo as MP, ganging up in wildcats, and with a penchant for me apparently. And none of the AI in my team gets a clue about AT or C4.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Decided to play around with LMG's todays and does it feel like the bloom on the LMG's isn't consistent.... like at all. Like regardless of moving/not moving or stance, sometimes they're lazers where you can zap people down the street and other times the bullets will not go where your reticule is.


I dunno, I would feel better if the LMG's had horrendous recoil, but the bullets generally went where the reticule is pointing, at least then I wouldn't be disapointed when I'm easily tracking a stationary bot and the bullets hit everything around them.

edit: Also AP rounds are garbo, you have enough rounds on you by default to bring enemy armor, if you hit 100% of your shots to 36 health, and if the armor is sitting around waiting for you to reload three times to kill it, you may as well have had a rocket launcher on you where you're not sitting there exposed to do the same amount of damage quicker.

edit2: Actually thinking about it, if the gun actually shot where you pointed it most of the time, it might be a cool thing to use with wall hack lady to shoot people through walls, but unfortunately the bloom is so jank you may as well not do it.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Nov 23, 2021

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



veni veni veni posted:

I think Hazard Zone is a really fun and generally underrrated mode that I want to play more of, but the 30mm cannon on the jeep basically ruins it. It's the most broken balance ting in the entire game and the only reason no one is complaining is that not many people are playing Hazard Zone. Especially now that everyone seems to know about it. Whoever gets the Jeep spawn will just dominate the other teams. It's practically unplayable the second a jeep comes into play.

the m5c bolte also gets the 30mm

my most successful bolte loadout includes the missile launcher, repair system, and the 30mm

if you're sneaky and fast you can take out tanks with that thing

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Defenestrategy posted:

Decided to play around with LMG's todays and does it feel like the bloom on the LMG's isn't consistent.... like at all. Like regardless of moving/not moving or stance, sometimes they're lazers where you can zap people down the street and other times the bullets will not go where your reticule is.
Noticed the same in solo earlier.

--edit: Hmm the SOFLAM needs level 56. By the time I get it, it isn't an AT->AA upgrade anymore.

Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Nov 23, 2021

DrBox
Jul 3, 2004

Sombody call the doctor?

toggle posted:

So what exactly does the hack skill of the IT guy do to helicopters? I’ve been hacking them, switching to the stinger and they can still get flares off. Am I too slow or is this how it should work?

It should lock out weapons and flares for around 10 seconds. Might just be a time thing where by the time you hack, swap, lock, fire, and the missile travels the flare is usable again.

DeliciousPatriotism
May 26, 2008
The at rifle thing bothers me cuz as powerful as vehicles are are you still get the attention of the entire map when you appear. I hope it doesn't have perfect accuracy and it really shouldn't be able to kill armor unless it's got like 3% health left but that's just one mooks onion.

Also the bolte seems cheap and I'm not sure what the point of it is.

Keshik
Oct 27, 2000

Can anyone recommend any pubbie Discords for pickup groups for this? I was in a few for BF5 for when CTS or any of the zillion goon discords were hibernating, but I must have left them all.

Target Practice
Aug 20, 2004

Shit.

Keshik posted:

Can anyone recommend any pubbie Discords for pickup groups for this? I was in a few for BF5 for when CTS or any of the zillion goon discords were hibernating, but I must have left them all.

Idk about pubbies but we have a solid crew in the goon one for this game that doesn't have any of the old goon problems it seems.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

DeliciousPatriotism posted:

The at rifle thing bothers me cuz as powerful as vehicles are are you still get the attention of the entire map when you appear. I hope it doesn't have perfect accuracy and it really shouldn't be able to kill armor unless it's got like 3% health left but that's just one mooks onion.

Also the bolte seems cheap and I'm not sure what the point of it is.

Counter-point gently caress all vehicles in they stupid asses, things can drop like 30 people a go in some situations if they get on top of people. Anything that makes it easier to clap back on them is a good thing.

Keshik
Oct 27, 2000

Target Practice posted:

Idk about pubbies but we have a solid crew in the goon one for this game that doesn't have any of the old goon problems it seems.

That's active? I am in a bunch of the goon discords and ain't nobody in voicecomm right now. I have found some before where you just jump into a lobby and people jump in with you and you squad up and go.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

DrBox posted:

It should lock out weapons and flares for around 10 seconds. Might just be a time thing where by the time you hack, swap, lock, fire, and the missile travels the flare is usable again.

I was playing with it before on the port map. The hack really doesn't give you enough time. If they break LOS on a crane or something for a split second, you're out of your 10 seconds.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Raine posted:

the m5c bolte also gets the 30mm

my most successful bolte loadout includes the missile launcher, repair system, and the 30mm

if you're sneaky and fast you can take out tanks with that thing

Luckily the bolte isnít in HZ, just the jeep. I donít have a problem with 30mm in general even though itís insanely powerful. But itís absurd that itís useable in a permadeath infantry mode where people canít really focus loadouts on vehicle destruction. It just melts entire teams in 2 seconds with zero skill or strategy.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

these are really good updates

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1463266741774172160

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Some of the buildings in Hourglass are hollow so you can just fly through them, pretty cool bug.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Yeah more than I was expecting for Thursdays patch. And early December one is bigger!

Rip hovercraft though.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005



yeah this is great.

Sad to se the hovercraft nerfed though. I still think they should have just left it as is and stuck it in the tank slot as well as the Bolte.

DrBox
Jul 3, 2004

Sombody call the doctor?
I really like how fast they are working on fixes and how well the communication is going. It really sucks they blew the launch and so much goodwill by releasing it in such a broken state but if they deliver on that list the game should be in a really good place by mid December. Stoked to see a lot of the UI fixes and nearby medic stuff come so fast.

If they had another beta instead of early access week and delayed until January it would have been night and day. Hopefully those poor bastards will get a decent couple of weeks off at Christmas. They must be in ultra-crunch mode right now.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Mega Comrade posted:

Yeah more than I was expecting for Thursdays patch. And early December one is bigger!

Rip hovercraft though.

Good.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006

PredictIt- Gambling on politics!


This is good but the lack of any updates to player counts or the locations of objectives is extremely disappointing.

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


DrBox posted:

I really like how fast they are working on fixes and how well the communication is going. It really sucks they blew the launch and so much goodwill by releasing it in such a broken state but if they deliver on that list the game should be in a really good place by mid December. Stoked to see a lot of the UI fixes and nearby medic stuff come so fast.

If they had another beta instead of early access week and delayed until January it would have been night and day. Hopefully those poor bastards will get a decent couple of weeks off at Christmas. They must be in ultra-crunch mode right now.

Imo if they can get the game in a semi polished state in the next month this'll drama will blow over. The huge maps are still going to be controversial, but I expect to see smaller ones in the future as well as more modes to alleviate that. Basically if they can get most of these little bugs and UI issues sorted quickly I think the game will at least be on the right track.

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