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Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??



slightly offtopic , but Battlefield-like Hell Let Loose just got updated with Eastern Front maps and a 1.0 release, figured some goons here might be interested. Also portal indeed looks sick

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Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013


Communist Toast posted:

So how do you play other classes to maximize score per minute in BF1? Medic just seems to be my bread and butter and very obvious how to milk points. Other classes I cant seems to come close

As a support Look for a large concentration of people or a recon or assault actually using their kit items. Throw down a box.

As recon or assault kill dudes a lot, use the flare gun whenever you have ammo for it.

Uriah Heep
Apr 28, 2010

im having a bit of an existential crisis here guys

Infidelicious posted:

As a support Look for a large concentration of people or a recon or assault actually using their kit items. Throw down a box.

As recon or assault kill dudes a lot, use the flare gun whenever you have ammo for it.

Ah well theres the problem, killing dudes isnt my forte. I will put all my poo poo on the line to revive my team tho. Its really cool, I feel like 1 person reviving and staying on top of heals can have a huge impact on the outcome of a big fight.

I feel like in other BF games you could 1 man a tank as the explosives class, but it seems like even if I managed to put all my anti tank grenades into them plus my rockets they are still around 30-40 armor. Does it just require more coordination?

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do






tanker and pilot are the only classes I am still sitting at less than 5 for, it's annoying that spawning in a tank (but not as the driver) doesn't get you tanker class points like it did in previous entries.

I also really wish there was some kind of a testing map to get the feel for planes because I have always sucked at flying them in every BF game made :negative:


e: spotting flares get you mad points, especially if you are hanging around a meat grinder objective, periscope does too

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010



The heavier tanks do tend to survive more. By nature you have to get close to use the AT grenade which puts you well within shooting distance, also just getting there, plus there are usually infantry around a tank and just being slightly off with the distance of your throw means a lot less damage. The rocket gun requires you to find a place to set up the bipod which makes you a sitting duck after more than 1 shot and even then thereís a chance for a ricochet. Heavy tanks can absolutely run amok on maps like Amiens when thereís only infantry and other tanks to worry about.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

o fuk traffic

Communist Toast posted:

Ah well theres the problem, killing dudes isnt my forte. I will put all my poo poo on the line to revive my team tho. Its really cool, I feel like 1 person reviving and staying on top of heals can have a huge impact on the outcome of a big fight.

I feel like in other BF games you could 1 man a tank as the explosives class, but it seems like even if I managed to put all my anti tank grenades into them plus my rockets they are still around 30-40 armor. Does it just require more coordination?

You kind of need a squad working together to max points on the non-medic classes to be honest. Medic can just hoover points up but the others rely on either a steady supply of things from ammo crates, or if you're support, people constantly using your ammo crates, to really synergize and rack points.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003



Lube Enthusiast posted:

Let me boss ai soldiers around like the simulants in Perfect Dark

Deakul posted:

I genuinely can't wait to see ai grunts padding out the battlefields, it added a lot to the Titanfalls for me.

So this is something I'm wondering about, whether or not the bots will be mooks like in Titanfall or if they'll be meant to simulate an actual player, like the bots in any number of shooters. I'd prefer mooks, it makes the game more exciting, but it worked in Titanfall because their guns did very little damage and the actual players were highlighted with Leads and usually flying over them, so you knew who was an actual threat

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008


Inspector Hound posted:

So this is something I'm wondering about, whether or not the bots will be mooks like in Titanfall or if they'll be meant to simulate an actual player, like the bots in any number of shooters. I'd prefer mooks, it makes the game more exciting, but it worked in Titanfall because their guns did very little damage and the actual players were highlighted with Leads and usually flying over them, so you knew who was an actual threat

The bots are intended to fill the spots of regular players and are replaced when somebody joins the server.

So like every game that isnít titanfall. Titanfalls are really just creep from MOBAs but I donít really see it working well in a game with such a large player count.

Cyks fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jul 27, 2021

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009



I look forward to maintaining my 0.3 KD against bots :negative:

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

o fuk traffic

Good lord this thread and the bots


They're just bots, they work the same way as bots did ten years ago but hopefully with more competent AI. They're computer players you can turn on and off as a server setting. That's it's. That's all.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Sab669 posted:

I look forward to maintaining my 0.3 KD against bots :negative:

Be very afraid, because bots... will actually play the loving objective.

Therefore they'll be superior to the average battlefield player :colbert:

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:


Bots will probably actually give you medkits and ammo if asked, making them superior to the average player

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009



Fart Car '97 posted:

Good lord this thread and the bots


They're just bots, they work the same way as bots did ten years ago but hopefully with more competent AI. They're computer players you can turn on and off as a server setting. That's it's. That's all.

For the record I'm fully in support of the idea


Yami Fenrir posted:

Be very afraid, because bots... will actually play the loving objective.

Therefore they'll be superior to the average battlefield player :colbert:

I had an "AFK on the edge of the map" Recon get mad at me for spamming my smoke grenades in front of him the other day. I tried to explain he could easily double his points by doing literally anything at all but he was insistent I don't know how to play Recon :)

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT





i've been touring through BF4 for the past while and my god is it good. The game had calcified for years into nothing but low population sweatlord servers but the population is loving huge now, it's like it was in year 3.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!



I really want to love BF4 but I'm literally overwhelmed with choices when it comes to the weapons and attachments, it's why I've always preferred the older time frames. :kiddo:

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Deakul posted:

I really want to love BF4 but I'm literally overwhelmed with choices when it comes to the weapons and attachments, it's why I've always preferred the older time frames. :kiddo:

For what it's worth I feel like a lot of weapons are just kind of... trap options. I have hundreds of hours but I have very few weapons actually maxed.

You can make pretty much every weapon work but some are just better (cough AEK cough).

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004


Sector Effector


Inspector Hound posted:

So this is something I'm wondering about, whether or not the bots will be mooks like in Titanfall or if they'll be meant to simulate an actual player, like the bots in any number of shooters. I'd prefer mooks, it makes the game more exciting, but it worked in Titanfall because their guns did very little damage and the actual players were highlighted with Leads and usually flying over them, so you knew who was an actual threat
They're in-between. They'll simulate actual players instead of being single-player-style NPCs, but they'll be generic soldiers instead of the Specialists and as such won't have the special abilities like the wingsuit.

Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013


Attachments wise reducing horizontal recoil is best stat.

Generally high rpm weapons are better because accuracy is good enough that more bullets faster trumps any other difference.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010



Deakul posted:

I really want to love BF4 but I'm literally overwhelmed with choices when it comes to the weapons and attachments, it's why I've always preferred the older time frames. :kiddo:

If it helps 50% of the attachments, and 75% if weíre just talking about suppressors, do the same thing as another attachment. The stubby grip is the same as the vertical grip on every weapon, for example.

As for guns the easiest choice is to just go with the ones with a low rate of fire. Easier to control, better at longer ranges if you donít know the recoil too well.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"


Kibayasu posted:

If it helps 50% of the attachments, and 75% if weíre just talking about suppressors, do the same thing as another attachment. The stubby grip is the same as the vertical grip on every weapon, for example.

It's Stubby/Potato, Vertical/Ergo, and Angled/Folding that are the identical pairings.

The United States
Jul 18, 2004

Please grab the extinguisher


Melman v2

Alkydere posted:

Stupid idea that would be awesome: Having some of the classic WWI/WWII weapons slip back from the Portal into actual 2042 gameplay. Once 1/V actually get added to the portal (which EA/:dice: are likely to hold off on since they're the newest games).

Would love to take on tomorrow's super-soldier with a beat up BAR.

Probably doable in the Portal itself but would be fun just playing standard 2042 with a Tommy Gun...or the Russian Lever Action.
Yeah it was great using the WW2 weapons in BC2

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!



BF4 loving owns holy poo poo

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007



Snipiní from heaven

codo27
Apr 21, 2008



Yo this is the discord someone made for bf goons so join and play some bf4 or something
https://discord.gg/e9nPGREy

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!




Play maybe BF1 instead. BF4 tends to suck at the server level and can't handle high ping players as well.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008



There's just no way I'm playing some hokey old seventeenth century set game with muskets and poo poo

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003



It sounds like the bots will be a happy medium. I just have terrible memories of being stomped by counter strike bots

Insert name here posted:

Bots will probably actually give you medkits and ammo if asked, making them superior to the average player

I absolutely puke ammo and medkits

codo27 posted:

There's just no way I'm playing some hokey old seventeenth century set game with muskets and poo poo

There's only like two guns, it's mostly clubs and swords

Inspector Hound fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Jul 28, 2021

The United States
Jul 18, 2004

Please grab the extinguisher


Melman v2

The existence of Portal also means that it's easy for them to add like a couple revolutionary war muskets and uniforms as a joke when they would never in a million years actually put out a Battlefield 1776 boxed product

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE0xbH5zwS8

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014



Hell Gem

I did what I reinstalled Battlefield 1 to do. I unlocked the Martini Henry and it is like striking heathens down with the wrath of God.

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!


yeah, i was pretty disappointed to see that some of my unlocks weren't maintained. Gotta unlock the lebel again dammit.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan



I installed and played some BF1 tonight and it turns out that game just might in fact kick rear end.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

*~ I remember you! You were on a HORSEY! ~*



do we know yet if 2042 will allow other players to hear you constantly blaring your car horn, this is important

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004



when do we get 10min+ of uninterrupted unstaged gameplay without youtube/streamer opinions over the top of it

that is the only thing i actually want to see at this point.

i do not give a single gently caress about the portal.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008




Gravy Boat 2k

Rev. Bleech_ posted:

do we know yet if 2042 will allow other players to hear you constantly blaring your car horn, this is important

codo27
Apr 21, 2008



The United States posted:

The existence of Portal also means that it's easy for them to add like a couple revolutionary war muskets and uniforms as a joke when they would never in a million years actually put out a Battlefield 1776 boxed product

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE0xbH5zwS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZRQopuO8HU

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"


explosivo posted:

I installed and played some BF1 tonight and it turns out that game just might in fact kick rear end.

BF4 is the best sandbox Battlefield game but BF1 is just the best in every other category.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan



I'm trying to think when the last time I would've played BF1 for free was that gave me such a sour taste in my mouth, probably either a free weekend or the beta or something, but I really remembered coming out of that thinking everything felt like a reskinned Battlefront and decidedly not Battlefield. The few rounds I played last night though were completely opposite of that and honestly I was getting mad 1942 vibes what with the weird guns and germans yelling. I still think I might prefer BF4 -- the attachments and unlocks in the modern setting are more interesting and varied which does not a good game make, but does help me stick with a game longer for sure.

Oh also the sound in BF1, as expected, is loving unreal.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

The United States posted:

The existence of Portal also means that it's easy for them to add like a couple revolutionary war muskets and uniforms as a joke when they would never in a million years actually put out a Battlefield 1776 boxed product

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE0xbH5zwS8

I used to play this back in the idea and it was absolutely hilarious.

They better include a goddamn musket.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

MEAN MUGGIN'




Portal means we can do the cowboy mode we used to do on the BF4 server we had years ago (bolt action + revolver only) without having to boot people for not abiding by the rules! Maybe we'll even get to include double barrel shotguns!!

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Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003



Hot Diggity! posted:

Portal means we can do the cowboy mode we used to do on the BF4 server we had years ago (bolt action + revolver only) without having to boot people for not abiding by the rules! Maybe we'll even get to include double barrel shotguns!!

There's a semi auto shotgun in rdr, which is a documentary

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