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Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service

Foehammer007 posted:

one thing for sure is EA knows how to milk money out of games

ready for the cosmetics and customisation to be restrictive as all gently caress

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priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

They’re gonna put super soldiers in it like fifa ultimate

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

It was a solid five minutes of "high sticking" on comms.




battlefield ultimate, build your squad with cool military names

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"


Au Revoir Shosanna posted:

ready for the cosmetics and customisation to be restrictive as all gently caress

Can't wait for it to be like Warzone where everyone uses the same 2 skins because it makes you impossible to see in shadows

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...



jisforjosh posted:

Can't wait for it to be like Warzone where everyone uses the same 2 skins because it makes you impossible to see in shadows

I think the ultimate edition has a special skin that sure sounds like one of those hard to see skins.

Yeah it's called the shadow striker.

Ineffiable fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jun 9, 2021

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


Looten Plunder posted:

Cant believe I stumbled across a 28 minute old trailer randomly. That looked very fun.

I've played a lot of Battlefield games,going all the way back to BF2. Am I the only one, that still can't get their head around planes and choppers? It blows my mind that BF flying is considered dumb and arcadey but the most I can do without crashing is fly from point A to B in a straight line, shoot things along the way and eject at the other end.

Weird thing is I was actually pretty good at flying helicopters in Bad Company 2, but they changed the controls up in 3 and 4 that it became a lot more complicated to fly the bastards, needlessly so really

Kibayasu posted:

The people who complain about C4 attacks are the vehicle equivalent of snipers on a hill. They just want to sit somewhere risk free and shoot at infantry with their 1 hit kill weapon. And in the case of vehicles you don’t have to worry about being 1 hit kill back and don’t even have to land headshots.

Heck I made a point about getting good with the MAA in BF4 so I was constantly looking up into the sky and not being able to see things coming at me. It was just as much fun dealing with C4 attacks when they happened as it was shooting the jets. I typically died to someone on an ATV once so at that point I knew someone was around doing it, and then it became an awesome game of cat and mouse. I had to keep an eye out for ATVs out in the distance, thinking if they were going for me or just driving to a point, look at the main map all the time in case someone spotted an ATV and it was out in the middle of nowhere (like say it was trying to hide from a tank for as long as possible). They had to think about the routes they would take to try and get as close as possible before being obvious. Maybe they had to wait until they knew I was shooting at a jet or when I was running away from something else that started shooting me. There were a few rare times some dedicated C4’ers even accused me of cheating because I saw them coming too often which is always a :smug: feeling.

C4 tricks like that are fine as it actually takes some bit of skill and teamwork to pull off, it's not like say Titanfall 2 where anti Titan weapons are so effective and easy to use that it often feels pointless to even use Titans cause they'll just get blown up within 30 seconds of getting called in before accomplishing much

Hughmoris posted:

I did not particular enjoy BF1 or the little I played BF5. I really hope they go back to the BF4 era of selecting vehicles.

Agreed, I loathed how much they minimized vehicle play in the last couple Battlefield games or the Battlefront games for that matter

Blue Raider posted:

I’m glad they seem to have some kind of vision this time around and not wasting their resources on bull poo poo like campaigns or a battle royale.

Bot lobbies might be pretty cool, that’s a neat idea. Not really excited for 128 player servers though. That has the possibility to be a complete meat grinder.

On the other hand the bigger the team size the less noticeable it is when you have morons on your team

The United States posted:

I mean it's not CASPIAN border but it sure is a border of some sort



Would be nice, Caspian Border is one of my favorite maps in the franchise

jisforjosh posted:

My understanding from some of the breakdowns from BF content creators, is you can play bot only matches to help new players learn the mechanics and familiarize themselves with vehicles

Edit: beat above

It'll also be good for soothing egos I imagine, will be harder for me to get mad if after a really bad match I can just go do a match versus some bots and stomp them into mud

Shoehead posted:

I can't wait to be really mad at this game! :v:

Yeah probably

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service

Ineffiable posted:

I think the ultimate edition has a special skin that sure sounds like one of those hard to see skins.

Yeah it's called the shadow striker.

lol yup


Shoehead posted:

I can't wait to be really mad at this game! :v:

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008



nice apron idiot

The United States
Jul 18, 2004

Please grab the extinguisher


Melman v2

I know it's gotta be some sort of active camo system but I love the idea of the First Army Division of Albertsons going to war wearing their foodservice aprons

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

It was a solid five minutes of "high sticking" on comms.




Futuristic apron

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...



Fallom posted:

nice apron idiot

Nice apron.

For a clown to wear to the circus! Idiot!



Noooooo

fennesz
Dec 29, 2008



Looks more like a poncho than an apron. smh

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010



I just hope they go crazy with things like actually Wake Island is a sudden volcano!

I want there to be a tsunami that just wipes the ground free of everything unless you're on some sort of platform.

Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]


Will the Wake Island map be called Wake Island 2042? DICE, please respond to my emails.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007



Insert name here posted:

Someone linked an article earlier that implied they'd be OG style bots which replace players rather than Titanfall-esque style AI grunts:
https://wccftech.com/battlefield-2042-deep-dive-with-dice-128-players-ai-bots-huge-maps-dynamic-events-specialists-and-more/

That’s a shame, one of the best decisions battlefront 2 made was adding squads of AI soldiers to the conquest-style game mode to give players more things to shoot

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

I'm back and ready to be disappointed.

I'm trying to reserve judgement on specialists, but it feels like they were trying for that BR hype again, then realized it would be a poo poo project halfway through but already had specialists in place.

Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jun 9, 2021

Symetrique
Jan 1, 2013






cant wait to backprone in a corner with the 100$ skin

mexi
Mar 17, 2003

Time to call it a night.

My only fond memory of BFV was when the AA launcher was released, such a fun and hilarious time that was.

Really excited to see gameplay, this game is going to be good.

whaley
Aug 13, 2000

MY DOODOO IS SPRAYING OUT

real good feeling about this one but wondering about how the vehicle summoning is balanced. if the other team can shoot down vehicle drops and you cant spawn them endlessly i think it could work pretty well. but like where do you realistically spawn a jet. are people going to spawn jets into the ocean while they're on a boat

Warad
Aug 10, 2019


Tying everyone to specific characters instead of just doing it like BF5 *promised* to do with class archetypes with more specialized abilities while allowing people to make whoever they want for customization does seem to kinda clash with their whole "War fought by PMCs and ragtag groups of people from various backgrounds and nationalities" idea and kinda a bummer since the character customization was one of the few things BF5 did sort of right.

whaley
Aug 13, 2000

MY DOODOO IS SPRAYING OUT

wrecking my teams aircraft carrier into the other teams aircraft carrier was the funniest poo poo ever

Symetrique
Jan 1, 2013






whaley posted:

real good feeling about this one but wondering about how the vehicle summoning is balanced. if the other team can shoot down vehicle drops and you cant spawn them endlessly i think it could work pretty well. but like where do you realistically spawn a jet. are people going to spawn jets into the ocean while they're on a boat

Probably offmap like 1/V.

Wonder how viable stealing airdrops in mid-air will be.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"


Symetrique posted:

Probably offmap like 1/V.

Wonder how viable stealing airdrops in mid-air will be.

Wingsuit sweeping in to steal poo poo

Symetrique
Jan 1, 2013






jisforjosh posted:

Wingsuit sweeping in to steal poo poo

Hell yeah. 3 wingsuits in one littlebird just stealing tanks mid air. or C4ing them.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004



hmmm, dunno about that teaser trailer

obviously its not gameplay footage, but while parts of it and many of the announced features are appealing to me in the abstract, it simply comes off as a bit too fan-servicey and safe ("look at just how much it's Battlefield, including all your old favorites like jihad jeeps and mid-air MANPADs!")

I can't reasonably be mad that they're doing what people (including myself) have wanted them to do, but a lot of what BF V was ostensibly going to do also sounded nice in the abstract

my hangover from BF V is probably large enough that they was simply no way they were going to win me over with a single video, but either way its just not quite giving me the fizz

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

I'm back and ready to be disappointed.

I'm trying to reserve judgement on specialists, but it feels like they were trying for that BR hype again, then realized it would be a poo poo project halfway through but already had specialists in place.

eh, plenty of other reasons to do it/possible sources of inspiration - i.e. it could just as easily be Rainbow Six Siege as Apex, and from a monetization perspective it obviously gives lots of opportunities to sell people new skins and specialists

it also simplifies balance to some extent since your "class" just becomes a single ability that isn't integral to the core gameplay in the way support/medic/etc. were

LGD fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Jun 10, 2021

toggle
Nov 7, 2005



How do vehicle spawns work this time? More menu watching waiting for a plane/tank?

moot the hopple
Apr 26, 2008

dyslexic Bowie clone

I'd need some BFGoons alum to sign up for the alpha/beta and report back with some really glowing reviews before I'd trust any hype.

V technically came free with my GFX card and was still not worth it.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008




toggle posted:

How do vehicle spawns work this time? More menu watching waiting for a plane/tank?

I think you call them in. Maybe like Battlefront 2 where you can purchase them with points

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006





Fried Watermelon posted:

I think you call them in. Maybe like Battlefront 2 where you can purchase them with points

JackFrags said something like this. He made it sound like they’re literally airdrops when you call one.

Warad
Aug 10, 2019


LGD posted:

hmmm, dunno about that teaser trailer

obviously its not gameplay footage, but while parts of it and many of the announced features are appealing to me in the abstract, it simply comes off as a bit too fan-servicey and safe ("look at just how much it's Battlefield, including all your old favorites like jihad jeeps and mid-air MANPADs!")

I can't reasonably be mad that they're doing what people (including myself) have wanted them to do, but a lot of what BF V was ostensibly going to do also sounded nice in the abstract

and my hangover from BF V is probably large enough that they was simply no way they were going to win me over with a single video, but either way its just not quite giving me the fizz

It's obvious why DICE/EA is going "Hey remember Rendezook?" while also showing maps that vaguely look like Damavand, Dawnbreaker, Lumphini Garden, and Operation Whiteout. They want people to think about 3 and 4 from the start, the games people actually remember fondly, and not 5 which arguably drat near killed the whole franchise. Yeah it's cold corporate focus group BS, but it makes sense

V for Vegans
Jan 30, 2009


Fried Watermelon posted:

I think you call them in. Maybe like Battlefront 2 where you can purchase them with points

They made it seem like you could call them on the fly, which would be nice when the match spawns and everyone drives off in the jeeps with 3 empty seats leaving their team behind. It will be funny to see a sea of ATVs right off the start though

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:


LGD posted:

my hangover from BF V is probably large enough that they was simply no way they were going to win me over with a single video, but either way its just not quite giving me the fizz
This is kinda me right now though the trailer really did hit the right spots for me, as well as the announcement that bot matches are a thing again.

V for Vegans posted:

They made it seem like you could call them on the fly, which would be nice when the match spawns and everyone drives off in the jeeps with 3 empty seats leaving their team behind. It will be funny to see a sea of ATVs right off the start though
After 1 and 5 having basically no transport vehicles I'm 100% okay with every player getting an ATV

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

o fuk traffic

Warad posted:

It's obvious why DICE/EA is going "Hey remember Rendezook?" while also showing maps that vaguely look like Damavand, Dawnbreaker, Lumphini Garden, and Operation Whiteout. They want people to think about 3 and 4 from the start, the games people actually remember fondly, and not 5 which arguably drat near killed the whole franchise. Yeah it's cold corporate focus group BS, but it makes sense

I mean, is it really that cold corporate focus group to say "well we've strayed from the core of the franchise setting for 7 years so let's get back to it"?

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


whaley posted:

real good feeling about this one but wondering about how the vehicle summoning is balanced. if the other team can shoot down vehicle drops and you cant spawn them endlessly i think it could work pretty well. but like where do you realistically spawn a jet. are people going to spawn jets into the ocean while they're on a boat

My guess is ground vehicles can be spawned wherever there's room for them to land, air and water vehicles will probably need specific locations to be called in, like air strips and helipads for air vehicles and docks in bodies of water for boats

Fried Watermelon posted:

I think you call them in. Maybe like Battlefront 2 where you can purchase them with points

Yeah I had issues with Battlefront 2 but that wasn't one of them, since the points needed for vehicles or elite troop types usually didn't take too long to farm up

LGD
Sep 25, 2004



Fart Car '97 posted:

I mean, is it really that cold corporate focus group to say "well we've strayed from the core of the franchise setting for 7 years so let's get back to it"?

uh, world war 2 was in no way a departure from the "core of the franchise setting," it just sucked

they're obviously not going to go back to World War 1 straight away, so going back to the slightly near-future setting of the last well-received mainline BF titles before that is a perfectly reasonable decision from both a "true fan" and bland focus group perspective, but that's why I was saying it's rubbing me slightly the wrong way - it's the most safe and conservative course of action for the franchise

hopefully that at least means the odds of it being genuinely awful are much lower (though again their last effort somehow botched world war 2), but simultaneously I think the odds of it being very mediocre in the style of a call of duty annual release are substantially higher (which doesn't rule out the possibility of a pleasant surprise, ala 2019's Modern Warfare)

LGD fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jun 10, 2021

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Rusty posted:

They will release the gameplay trailer on Sunday.

:stoked:

So pretty much ignore everything until we see what the game actually plays like!

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

Have you heard the good news?

Look deeply into my eyes.

STADIA!


Warad posted:

Tying everyone to specific characters instead of just doing it like BF5 *promised* to do with class archetypes with more specialized abilities while allowing people to make whoever they want for customization does seem to kinda clash with their whole "War fought by PMCs and ragtag groups of people from various backgrounds and nationalities" idea and kinda a bummer since the character customization was one of the few things BF5 did sort of right.

I'm sure each specialist will have plenty of skins. They're trying to give each of them a personality, Warzone/R6:S-style.

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006





I doubt they’ll go back to ww1 again. They put out so many maps that they covered the entire war pretty much. Also bf1 came out during the war’s centenary if that had anything to do with.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004



Blue Raider posted:

I doubt they’ll go back to ww1 again. They put out so many maps that they covered the entire war pretty much. Also bf1 came out during the war’s centenary if that had anything to do with.

I can see it happening, but not for a long time and I imagine it'd either be a (more explicitly) alt-history dieselpunk thing, or a mini-expansion like Bad Company 2: Vietnam

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Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010



The First World War feels like something Battlefield could only do once. Or at least once for a fairly long time.

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