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I forget, was there any hype leading up to windows 11? I remember a lot of buzz before 8 and 10 but 11 just showed up one day and I haven’t had the energy to care
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Silver Alicorn posted:I forget, was there any hype leading up to windows 11? I remember a lot of buzz before 8 and 10 but 11 just showed up one day and I haven’t had the energy to care mostly a lot of lols even outside yospos iirc
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Aug 19, 2022 20:12
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windows 11 is like windows 8 where they hosed up the start menu so everyone avoids it.
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Aug 19, 2022 20:12
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Silver Alicorn posted:I forget, was there any hype leading up to windows 11? I remember a lot of buzz before 8 and 10 but 11 just showed up one day and I haven’t had the energy to care apparently they just decided to update everyone to 11 anyway i posted about this in cjs but my desktop is stuck in some sort of purgatory because it doesn't have a TPM v2. it's on a version of 10 that's apparently outside the RTM branch for 10 but inside the branch they use for 11, which i can't update to usually i just use linux on there. it's easier 
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Aug 19, 2022 20:18
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Silver Alicorn posted:I forget, was there any hype leading up to windows 11? I remember a lot of buzz before 8 and 10 but 11 just showed up one day and I haven’t had the energy to care tbh i have no idea if my work machines run 10 or 11
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Aug 19, 2022 20:23
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Silver Alicorn posted:I forget, was there any hype leading up to windows 11? I remember a lot of buzz before 8 and 10 but 11 just showed up one day and I haven’t had the energy to care 1) They announced windows 11 and everyone was like "wtf? wasn't windows 10 supposed to be evergreen?" 2) Then there was a period where there actually might have been a little bit of hype around it? 3) Then they announced the system requirements and everyone was like "gently caress you microsoft" 4) Then it came out and people were like "hmm it just seems to be strictly slightly worse than windows 10" Beeftweeter posted:apparently they just decided to update everyone to 11 anyway mystes fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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Aug 19, 2022 20:29
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mystes posted:Wasn't that just an accident where they messed up which computers they released the updater to? Or did they change their mind again more recently? i'm not sure honestly, i'd love to figure out a way to update it without blasting away everything on a 2 TB ssd as far as i can tell it just doesn't find any updates other than the rtm 11 updater. for reference it's on 10.0.21390.2025
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Aug 19, 2022 20:35
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Carthag Tuek posted:tbh i have no idea if my work machines run 10 or 11 almost definitely 10, 11 has garbage default UI you'd most certainly notice, you'd probably wonder who swapped your computer for a lovely chromebook when you weren't looking e: other things that suck about windows 11 - DPI, multi-monitor and HDR glitches (maybe slightly better recently but still really bad, including rare outright system freezes when switching monitors, this is on a high-end monitor and a 3070ti with latest drivers and top-end open-air cooling) - actually one more time, really garbage GUI with a scant few exceptions (the latest control panel redesign is okay as are the new tray icon UIs) - removal of most full-screen tablet support features (my travel laptop is a surface book, owned and all that) - some VR issues good things - support for the latest intel processors - task manager is a bit more reliable when the system goes unresponsive - WSA is cool for a moment before you start hating the constant updates of android apps and the gaping security holes that come with them - some system memory use optimisation that's it Private Speech fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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Aug 19, 2022 21:00
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Private Speech posted:- DPI, multi-monitor and HDR glitches (maybe slightly better recently but still really bad, including rare outright system freezes when switching monitors, this is on a high-end monitor and a 3070ti with latest drivers and top-end open-air cooling) this is very much still the case at least in my setup. Private Speech posted:good things to add to this: wslg and some other wsl updates are great, to a point where if you care about that it might still be worthwhile to accept other random regressions. none of the issues are debilitating, just all entirely unforced and lolworthy.
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Aug 19, 2022 21:29
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:to add to this: wslg and some other wsl updates are great, to a point where if you care about that it might still be worthwhile to accept other random regressions. I thought that was in Windows 10 as well, if not then yeah that's pretty good too
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Aug 19, 2022 21:34
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yeah i really like wsl2 and wslg, but honestly the other broken poo poo just drove me to use linux entirely. wine is good enough these days that it's actually nbd
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Aug 19, 2022 21:34
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Private Speech posted:I thought that was in Windows 10 as well, if not then yeah that's pretty good too unless something has changed those things are indeed (entirely artificially to let the kindergarteners designing the garbage new start menu off the hook, lol) 11-only
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Aug 19, 2022 21:41
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i still think its kinda funny the only way to run a 16-bit windows app on there is via wine and wsl2 lol
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Aug 19, 2022 21:48
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Private Speech posted:almost definitely 10, 11 has garbage default UI you'd most certainly notice, you'd probably wonder who swapped your computer for a lovely chromebook when you weren't looking windows has always looked janky to me i basically only use it to run wsl, you could absolutely switch out ui elements and i wouldnt notice
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Aug 19, 2022 22:58
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what benefits does windows 11 bring to me, as a gamer
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Aug 19, 2022 23:00
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Silver Alicorn posted:what benefits does windows 11 bring to me, as a gamer
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Aug 19, 2022 23:46
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Silver Alicorn posted:what benefits does windows 11 bring to me, as a gamer DirectStorage allegedly is better on Windows 11? It's also in Windows 10 but apparently is kneecapped somewhat by the legacy I/O stack being present.
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Aug 20, 2022 03:24
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Carthag Tuek posted:windows has always looked janky to me it's like, the entire task bar (now looking like a cheap macos knockoff by default), right-click menus and the start menu, plus all windows have very round corners it really is extremely obvious
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Aug 20, 2022 03:50
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Silver Alicorn posted:I forget, was there any hype leading up to windows 11? I remember a lot of buzz before 8 and 10 but 11 just showed up one day and I haven’t had the energy to care I think everyone was pissed off because 10 is totally fine and no one wanted new windows
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Aug 20, 2022 13:16
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Silver Alicorn posted:what benefits does windows 11 bring to me, as a gamer an excuse to upgrade your perfectly fine, totally performant pre-eighth gen system 
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Aug 20, 2022 18:00
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Silver Alicorn posted:what benefits does windows 11 bring to me, as a gamer supports pee and e cores better if you’re on intel
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Aug 20, 2022 19:11
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are pee cores stored in the ball grid array?
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Aug 20, 2022 19:34
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akadajet posted:supports pee and e cores better if you’re on intel Luckily Win10 is perfect for god's own CPU Intel® Core™ i5-12400 Processor
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Aug 21, 2022 00:25
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Silver Alicorn posted:what benefits does windows 11 bring to me, as a gamer if they hadn't introduced win11 then they wouldn't eventually be able to EOL win10 and make countless billions of extra dollars from forced upgrades oh wait you asked what benefits does it bring to *you* nevermind
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Aug 21, 2022 02:05
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The managed to increase performance of the start menu search by -300%!
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Aug 21, 2022 02:08
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ok, so *now* microsoft has updated windows 11 such that my multimonitor setup does no longer confuses it (used to appear to randomly confuse two monitors in various ways), bringing windows 11 to the point of "not significantly worse than 10"
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Aug 28, 2022 14:52
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:ok, so *now* microsoft has updated windows 11 such that my multimonitor setup does no longer confuses it (used to appear to randomly confuse two monitors in various ways), bringing windows 11 to the point of "not significantly worse than 10" they've been trying to do this for a while, I'm reserving judgement until I'm certain mine works well that said whatever they did appears to have fixed VR too not sure if HDR issues (primarily if you mix HDR and non-HDR displays) will be ironed out too or not
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Aug 28, 2022 16:11
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Private Speech posted:they've been trying to do this for a while, I'm reserving judgement until I'm certain mine works well things looking good in that i didn't read that they fixed it or anything, i just turned on my computer today after some time away and found it now behaved correctly in scenarios that previously reliably failed.
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Aug 28, 2022 17:57
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how's the new tiling UI, that is about the only reason I would upgrade
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Aug 29, 2022 02:27
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cowboy beepboop posted:how's the new tiling UI, that is about the only reason I would upgrade you'll want fancyzones anyway, so no need to upgrade.
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Aug 29, 2022 09:37
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:you'll want fancyzones anyway, so no need to upgrade. will there ever be?
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Aug 29, 2022 10:14
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echinopsis posted:will there ever be? probably, if you have a 12th gen intel processor or use wsl are the reasons today, but microsoft will probably keep piling up that sort of thing. windows 11 is pathetic primarily in how unforced an error it was, they just broke a bunch of stuff for no good reason (presumably most of it classic programmer "maintaining this is hard and boring, lets rewrite it from the ground up and it will surely not turn out just as complex or be a qa nightmare for a decade"). but it is a mostly comedic tragedy, it is not broken in such a way to be very painful to live with.
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Aug 29, 2022 10:26
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echinopsis posted:will there ever be? the improvements to wsl vs. 10 are actually really neat otherwise, nah, just use linux and wine, which is basically doing the same thing anyway?
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Aug 29, 2022 10:39
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what the gently caress is wsl
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Aug 29, 2022 10:56
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i mean don't answer that if I ever care I'll just look it up myself but it can't be that important or fun
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Aug 29, 2022 10:57
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echinopsis posted:what the gently caress is wsl it stands for "wanna switch? lmao"
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Aug 29, 2022 11:03
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echinopsis posted:i mean don't answer that if I ever care I'll just look it up myself but it can't be that important or fun https://docs.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows/wsl/about
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Aug 29, 2022 11:03
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wsl is stunning new technology for running linux while remaining cool 
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Aug 29, 2022 11:08
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wsl is for when your job is idiots who only have windoze machines and you want to run real programs for cool dudes
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wsl is nerdy as all hell but its neat and somewhat handy
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