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Chris Knight posted:what it's nice to see what the weather is like at a glance some people occasionally go outside, shocking I know
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i always have a weather widget on whatever os i'm using due to the fact that i walk to/from work when i can and the wather here can be unpredictable. i was a little taken aback by the windows 10 taskbar widget thing they shoved in there after an update but i've gotten used to it too. don't mind it much my aging pc doesnt support windows 11 and i'm glad of it since it won't nag me thanks for listening and have a good friday!
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Apr 1, 2022 17:24
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The next time I have to install windows I'm seriously thinking about making a github project that uses packer to apply tweaks to unfuck it and automate the install over pxe. So I don't see the default windows desktop for even a second.
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Private Speech posted:it's nice to see what the weather is like at a glance
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Apr 2, 2022 01:12
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goddamn loving SharePoint loving Microsoft loving bullshit goddamn gently caress
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Apr 5, 2022 12:19
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Chris Knight posted:goddamn loving SharePoint loving Microsoft loving bullshit goddamn gently caress I agree with this post
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Apr 5, 2022 13:55
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yeah, hard to imagine anyone showing up to defend sharepoint, in the era of 365 especially. skype for business levels of bad.
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Apr 5, 2022 14:15
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i'm still convinced that skype was intentionally bought and deprecated in favour of teams
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Apr 5, 2022 14:23
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dioxazine posted:i'm still convinced that skype was intentionally bought and deprecated in favour of teams i think you may be ascribing (and yourself applying) more thought to the whole process than actually happened at microsoft.
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Apr 5, 2022 14:24
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we had a teams migration at work and it took a month during which we also had to be logged in to the old instance in an incognito browser window and it didn’t carry over any files or personal chats or more than a couple months of team activity, like apparently it’s impossible to copy those things from one sharepoint to another? any other company they’d just make you hire more consultants to do it, microsoft seems unique in making certain tasks literally impossible
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Apr 5, 2022 14:56
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:yeah, hard to imagine anyone showing up to defend sharepoint, in the era of 365 especially. skype for business levels of bad.
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Apr 5, 2022 14:58
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mystes posted:I have some bad news about all the o365 business products for you i am pretty sure you don't
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Apr 5, 2022 15:04
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they're all sharepoint, op
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Apr 5, 2022 15:06
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mystes posted:they're all sharepoint, op nah, it is still lurking to some extent, but once you're off the on-prem stuff it is rapidly receding from relevance.
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Apr 5, 2022 15:16
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dioxazine posted:i'm still convinced that skype was intentionally bought and deprecated in favour of teams lol skype was bought by MS in 2011. teams released in what.. 2017? no way they were thinking that far ahead. slack and discord came out somewhere in between and ms has been trying to catch up to them ever since
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Apr 5, 2022 15:26
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windows 11 doesn’t exist. you can’t make me use it
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Apr 5, 2022 15:28
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Last Chance posted:lol skype was bought by MS in 2011. teams released in what.. 2017? no way they were thinking that far ahead. "trying" is kind of a weird word to use, the thing about teams is that i don't think anyone likes it nearly as much as slack, but kind of obviously it gets way more use as people are basically forced onto it by orgs. even within yospos i'm pretty sure more people are on teams than slack for work etc. by now. hard to compare numbers, but even in 2020 the active user claims had teams with like 3x the users.
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Apr 5, 2022 15:32
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i can't install w11 on my i7 mac mini, oh well 
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Apr 5, 2022 15:38
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:"trying" is kind of a weird word to use, the thing about teams is that i don't think anyone likes it nearly as much as slack, but kind of obviously it gets way more use as people are basically forced onto it by orgs. even within yospos i'm pretty sure more people are on teams than slack for work etc. by now. I prefer teams to slack but it might just be how our installs are set up
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Apr 5, 2022 15:40
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Cold on a Cob posted:i can't install w11 on my i7 mac mini, oh well
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Apr 5, 2022 15:46
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skype and skype for business have nothing to do with each other. office communicator became lync which then became skype for business after the skype purchase. skype for business had all the chat history and everything stored locally (or in outlook lmao) so it was a disaster if you wanted to use it across multiple devices. then in teams they made all the chat server side which is great. but then someone had the idea that the chats should all be based on office groups in office 365 which are based on sharepoint. so if you ever wondered why file sharing sucks rear end in teams its because its all based in sharepoint. and then you pile on the terrible javascript client and its just a mess. they still dont have an API for getting chat events in a reasonable mechanism (i.e. websockets) cause they dont want 3rd party teams clients
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Apr 5, 2022 16:04
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Shaggar posted:they still dont have an API for getting chat events in a reasonable mechanism (i.e. websockets) cause they dont want 3rd party teams clients
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Apr 5, 2022 16:07
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nah cause if you want to do non-client stuff there are apis for things (including notifications via webhooks) that are platform agnostic. just nothing that would work for a client.
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Apr 5, 2022 16:10
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i seriously doubt anybody would try to write a third party teams client
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Apr 5, 2022 16:15
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Cold on a Cob posted:i seriously doubt anybody would try to write a third party teams client
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i would write one that just does chat and nothing else
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Cold on a Cob posted:i seriously doubt anybody would try to write a third party teams client issue might be that anyone who tries would instantly be better at it than the teams team. (*still* a vast improvement on sfb).
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Shaggar posted:i would write one that just does chat and nothing else
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:"trying" is kind of a weird word to use, the thing about teams is that i don't think anyone likes it nearly as much as slack, but kind of obviously it gets way more use as people are basically forced onto it by orgs. even within yospos i'm pretty sure more people are on teams than slack for work etc. by now. we were on slack and very happy but we moved to teams because its nice to have uniform user management through microsoft365 and also it makes some government reqs happy with an extra checkbox here or there.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:"trying" is kind of a weird word to use, the thing about teams is that i don't think anyone likes it nearly as much as slack, but kind of obviously it gets way more use as people are basically forced onto it by orgs. even within yospos i'm pretty sure more people are on teams than slack for work etc. by now. to clarify, i meant "trying to be as good" since you're right, people have been moving over to teams because microsoft has a stranglehold on company/education directory and people management, but teams does generally suck and has that feeling that a lot of microsoft products like outlook have where there's too much poo poo jammed into it and it's slow. i mean i just opened our Teams channel (that is a ghost town because no one wants to use it) and I got a spinny icon for ~1 min before it gave up: https://i.imgur.com/03702qu.mp4  its garbage
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i just clicked to see what "immersive reader" did and it's some large type thing where it does TTS but I was unable to exit the view and had to quit teams and restart it.
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Microsoft software, when in doubt, will just display a spinny icon while pausing and doing absolutely nothing for 30 minutes (PM note: let's make this 90 min to be on the safe side -Jeff) and then display an "uwu we made a fucky wucky :(" message
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nobody uses the "teams" in teams its all 1:1 and group chats and microsoft hates it cause it means nobody is using the sharepoint bullshit and if nobody is using the sharepoint bullshit then it means all of that was a waste of time.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i just clicked to see what "immersive reader" did and it's some large type thing where it does TTS but I was unable to exit the view and had to quit teams and restart it. its the same thing as the "reader" button on edge and safari intended to create text only versions of web pages. why in the world you'd want that for a chat application i cannot fathom. my best guess is its an electron thing they just left enabled
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Shaggar posted:nobody uses the "teams" in teams its all 1:1 and group chats and microsoft hates it cause it means nobody is using the sharepoint bullshit and if nobody is using the sharepoint bullshit then it means all of that was a waste of time. this is how we use it
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its fun when someone from a different organization invites you to a teams meeting and if you click on the join meeting button from outlook it creates an infinite loop of launching a browser tab that tries to launch a teams session that launches a browser tab etc. the only fix is to close teams and click on the join in browser button before it can reopen teams
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Last Chance posted:to clarify, i meant "trying to be as good" since you're right, people have been moving over to teams because microsoft has a stranglehold on company/education directory and people management, but teams does generally suck and has that feeling that a lot of microsoft products like outlook have where there's too much poo poo jammed into it and it's slow. I had to use it for a microsoft interview and ended up using the web version because the native installed version just froze my computer. I've gotten recruiter emails for the teams team there too and I'm like "lol no"
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I should do electron apps in my career change since the bar is so low.
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i liked last month when a teams update broke using cursor keys to move around text boxes. like how do you even do that?
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