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shadow puppet of a posted:And shame on you if this is true. How about what they did with Giant Silva, whose WWF career highlights are: beating Kaientai, and being in this team. 
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X JAKK posted:How about what they did with Giant Silva, whose WWF career highlights are: beating Kaientai, and being in this team. i HATED these guys and their terrible intro music. Luna is cool tho
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gbs but from 2004 posted:i HATED these guys and their terrible intro music. Luna is cool tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SQfLmnLfW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sdfu8fQiBg
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X JAKK posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SQfLmnLfW4 Yo man gently caress Jim Cornett. That man is the Smartest Mark that ever Smart Marked. I've said a lot in this thread that there's a class of wrestling fan that gets off on knowing the inside baseball of wrestling while still wanting it to be a scam writ large so they can have some loving "secret knowledge" about how Hulk Hogan's real name is Terry. Those people's patron saint is Jim Cornett.
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So, I just came across this interview with John Cena where he talks about wrestling from an actors perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtYRQKiVRog loving fascinating. Also he low key hucks Vince under the bus for making his character boring.
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jim leans into the patron saint poo poo pretty hard, he'll sell you a plaque with an official Cult Of Cornette membership if you're willing to pay that fat turd the wrestling subforum has a jim containment thread and it is much better for it
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Ad by Khad posted:jim leans into the patron saint poo poo pretty hard, he'll sell you a plaque with an official Cult Of Cornette membership if you're willing to pay that fat turd Hate. Hate. I hate Jim Cornett. If I filled every post to max word limit and every thread with those posts and filled the server that the forums are on to it's breaking point with hate it would still not equal one ten thousandth of the hate I have for Jim Cornett. He is a time machine that wants an industry to operate like it's 100 years ago. If he worked in tech he'd be screaming about how we need to return to Usenet and 56k modems.
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Cornett is also comically racist, sexist, and homophobic but he tries really hard to hide it for fear of getting in any kind of trouble. He's a piece of poo poo coward chud.
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I find a good general of thumb is that the more of a flop any wrestler or wrestling personality was at being the head booker of a promotion or who ran their own promotion, the more they're likely to rant about how things "should be run" nowadays (and it should be noted that most of them are saying that about AEW; very few of them will rant about WWE except for the guys who burned their bridges with Vince a long time ago). Cornette, Bully/Bubba Ray, Road Dogg, guys like that who all had their heyday in the 1980s or 1990s, and who think that the way things were done then should be how they're done now, regardless of changing times and societal attitudes. They're the equivalent of once-successful comedians who nowadays whine about how "cancel culture is ruining comedy" when people don't laugh anymore at their formerly edgy jokes that made them famous like 40 years ago or whatever.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I find a good general of thumb is that the more of a flop any wrestler or wrestling personality was at being the head booker of a promotion or who ran their own promotion, the more they're likely to rant about how things "should be run" nowadays (and it should be noted that most of them are saying that about AEW; very few of them will rant about WWE except for the guys who burned their bridges with Vince a long time ago). Cornette, Bully/Bubba Ray, Road Dogg, guys like that who all had their heyday in the 1980s or 1990s, and who think that the way things were done then should be how they're done now, regardless of changing times and societal attitudes. They're the equivalent of once-successful comedians who nowadays whine about how "cancel culture is ruining comedy" when people don't laugh anymore at their formerly edgy jokes that made them famous like 40 years ago or whatever. Does road dogg hate on aew then?
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Elephant Ambush posted:Cornett is also comically racist, sexist, and homophobic but he tries really hard to hide it for fear of getting in any kind of trouble. He's a piece of poo poo coward chud. He's a chud who loathes Republicans and Trump, if you ever want to see what really lovely people who love the current crop of centrists Dems are its Cornett.
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snoremac posted:Ignore people being sassy about your longposts, they're making my day, make more please! ok, so I was waiting on Cornwind to finish, but to answer the TNA question: So, as mentioned, TNA is a company named after a sex pun that came into being solely because Jeff Jarrett aggresively burned his bridges when he left the WWF and needed somewhere to work. Since then, it has gone through (I think) four name changes and five different owners, and has persisted for twenty goddamn years, outliving WCW, ECW and Ring Of Honor, despite the fact that at no point in its history has it ever made a single goddamned dollar of profit. It is a big idiot hole into which rich idiot morons throw their idiot moron money, and yet somehow it is also an absolutely critical factor in the change in wrestling styles in the last twenty years, and also a key reason why women are now allowed to wrestle wearing clothes. Now, for everything that's said about VInce McMahon being old, and producing old wrestling for old people to look at with their old eyes, at least you can say that he has a very clear vision for the product he wants to make. There is an idea that is Rome and then everything else runs down through all the other old people he pays to run his show. TNA was the exact opposite of that. It was a wrestling show that existed for no purpose other than for Jeff Jarrett to have a job, each show seemingly (and quite possibly legitimately) written by a different person who was left no notes about what happened last week or what the plan was for the pay-per-view. It was a world where things just happened, and they happened because they did. As such, I can only present TNA's history as a series of discrete events, devoid of context, as they were originally intended to be viewed: - As mentioned, hiring Kurt Angle immediately after he was released from WWE on the basis that if he was going to keep doing oxys until someone found him dead in bed they'd at least not be held responsible for it - As mentioned, a PPV main event match between Jeff Hardy and Sting where Jeff was clearly hosed up when he came out and that consisted of Sting hitting his move and then physically holding Jeff down for the pin. No alternative main event was presented and the show went off the air. - Hiring Mick Foley, who was forcibly retired by WWE in 2000 after he stopped being able to remember stuff, as a main-event wrestler - A ladder match where the prize was a contract attached to a clipboard, except early in the match the paper contract fell off and so several men fought for the remainder of the match over an empty clipboard - An Ultimate X match (don't ask) where the thing you had to climb and grab to win kept falling down of its own accord, so eventually one wrestler just stood under it and caught it and was declared the winner - Kurt Angle winning all of the titles (including the tag title) by himself - Jeff Hardy rebranding himself and wrestling as Willow The Wisp, a character approximately equivalent to something David Bowie would come up with if he made of career out of sustaining head injuries - Rob Van Dam debuting as a surprise by beating Sting in 30 seconds and then being beaten down with a baseball bat for literally multiple minutes to ensure absolutely no-one got over - Dixie Carter losing their TV deal with Spike after promising network execs that Vince Russo wasn't involved with the product any more, and then accidentally sending an email meant for someone internally to a wrestling journalist confirming that Vince Russo was definitely still involved under the table - A six-week run where they went head-to-head with Monday Night Raw and were hideously beaten, and which began with a match in some weird thunderdome structure and where it was then scripted for Homicide to climb the inside of this thing and escape through the top. This is basically requiring someone to do a full muscle-up fifteen feet off the ground, and shockingly Homicide was not the right choice for this and was shown on camera trying to get out for an increasingly uncomfortable amount of time - Dustin Rhodes, in the depths of his addiction problems (one of which appeared to be hamburgers), debuting an 'Evil Goldust' character called Black Reign, who brought a pet rat to the ring. if you now mention Black Reign to Dustin on Twitter, he will block you - Hiring Pacman Jones after the NFL suspended him for starting a strip-club brawl that ended with a man being shot, being shocked that his NFL contract prohibited him from moonlighting as a pro wrestler, and then making him a tag-team champion despite him being unable to physically interact with any of the other wrestlers - Christy Hemme vs Big Fat Oily Guy, a big fat oily man in a thong who was himself a rip-off of WWE's Big DIck Johnson - The women's title changing hands in a random prize draw - Allowing Hulk Hogan to bring in his friend Bubba The Love Sponge, who immediately said something racist enough to get one of their other wrestlers to quit. When Mick Foley's contract was up, he was scripted to do a bit where he punched Bubba on the way out, so Foley legit punched him as hard as he could before as his last act on tv before finally retiring for good - On pay-per-view, presenting the single worst televised professional wrestling match in history, between Booker T's wife (not a wrestler) and a woman off Survivor (also not a wrestler) and which can only be done justice by the Bryan & Vinny review of it - A separate legendarily bad women's match featuring Shelley Martinez (remember Ariel?) who sold a groin stretch by yelling "MY VAG, MY VAG" and when asked "whaddya say?" by the ref to see if she's going to submit, then responded with "I SAID, MY VAG HURTS" - On pay-per-view, a blindfold match (already conceptually a terrible idea) where the hoods wouldn't stay on the wrestlers heads and so they pretty much had to just stand there with their eyes closed - On the same pay-per-view, an electrified steel cage match, where when someone was thrown against the cage the lights in the arena would flicker and the dude would sell by flopping around like The Rock taking a stunner, but where the fans immediately booed heavily and the wrestlers repeatedly grabbed or hit the cage out of instinct with no effect - A reverse battle royal match, where sixteen men started around the ring and had to fight to get in, with the eight remaining eliminated, and then the eight men in the ring had a battle royal where they had to throw each other out. This determined seeding for an elimination tournament where the guy who won the battle royal lost in the first round and the final winner was a replacement who hadn't been in the battle royal - A Last Rites match between Abyss and Sting, which is in every other way identical to a casket match except the casket is now in the middle of the ring and the wrestlers take extremely painful-looking bumps off it, plus they went to Donny's Discount Movie Props and bought plaster tombstones and candelabras, to ensure that the fans booed and chanted for Russo to be fired during this match that two men nearly killed themselves to perform - Stripping RVD of the world title because he's injured (read: his contract ran out of dates), and then organizing a tournament to crowd a new champion, the final of which was held on a pay-per-view that RVD wrestled on, having already come back - WCW announcer Tony Schiavone showing up on a single early show as a heel for no real reason, before immediately leaving and going to work at a Starbucks instead. He would show up again as part of the Kenny Omega angle two decades later, telling Tony Khan, "You know, I worked here once. Then I quit the business for eighteen years." in a wonderfully deadpan voice - An ECW nostalgia pay-per-view (again a complete WWE rip-off) which was somehow of lower production values than the original ECW and was of such poor quality that it finally killed off ECW nostalgia forever - Getting a young Kazuchika Okada on a developmental excursion from New Japan, being told explicitly that he was going to be a big deal, and then having him lose on the B-show every week to Frankie Kazarian for a year - Roddy Piper showing up in what is either his normal state or day three of a seven-day binge to confront Vince Russo by accusing him of being behind the segment where Owen Hart died, a great and highly tasteful way to encourage people to buy tickets and want to watch wrestling matches - A festive barbed wire christmas tree match, where the barbed wire tree was hung like a pendulum from the ceiling and the wrestlers had to run the ropes in semi-circles around it - BG & Kip James (fka the New Age Outlaws) being rebranded as the Voodoo Kin Mafia (VKM, like Vincent K McMahon, geddit?), and then showing up in ponchos and sombreros while challenging "Higginbottom and Levesque" (i.e. Shawn Michaels and Triple H) to a legit fight at the Alamo at high noon, ostensibly based on them being offended that they were reprising the DX gimmick and making a bunch of merch money while the Outlaws were stuck in TNA doing TNA things - Dixie Carter, freezing an actual million dollars in case Triple H and Shawn Michaels show up to have a fistfight as two grown men in their 40s. They did not. - Ken Anderson, gracefully selling his panic and worry at Tito Ortiz being the guest enforcer - Sting appearing out of nowhere in Eric Bischoff's office and preventing him from going to the ring with a mean birb who was tasked to watch him - Samoa Joe was once kidnapped by ninjas, this was never explained
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gbs but from 2004 posted:Does road dogg hate on aew then? Probably not as much now he's out of a job  But I do seem to recall he made a few cracks here and there, and to be fair he did take shots at Vince and WWE when he was in TNA. He's never needed much prompting to lick the boot of whoever's employing him.
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vince mcmahon either doesn't know what a burrito is or is too racist to call it by its name lol
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I hope that tna recap did not miss Angelina from jersey shore getting her own faction and also the many months that the show was used as a vehicle to further brooke hogans singing career.
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Some TNA clarification: The woman's wrestler that had to work at a sunglasses hut part time: A) was on the same roster as a Hulk Hogan being paid $2million/year. B) The woman's division (knockouts) was consistently the highest rated segment of the show for MONTHS during that time. Out drawing Hulkamania brother. C) She was knockouts Champion. Again, TNA is a mind blowing dumpster fire. Remember, while all this poo poo was going on, almost every single top name talent today in WWE and AEW that came from and Indy background ran through TNA. They really coulda been a contender. And while they had Samoa Joe and AJ Styles who should have been the Cena / Orton. They were paying these guys peanuts and dropping literal MILLIONS for celebrity guests that can't and didn't wrestle. 
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Probably not as much now he's out of a job where did road dogg end up after the attitude era? Did he stay at WWE and only just get fired or something?
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gbs but from 2004 posted:where did road dogg end up after the attitude era? Did he stay at WWE and only just get fired or something? yes e: well he went to TNA and the indies for a while, but then he was a backstage guy at WWE and last I heard he's fired I remember because sometimes somebody would ask "who the gently caress booked this match?" and somebody else would respond "oh you didn't know?" lol and then earlier this year wwe fired all of triple h's friends e2: I should probably read the thread before responding Cubone fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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Cubone posted:
lmao I thought road dogg and Billy Gunn hated HHH
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Cubone posted:yes Legit lmao glad you posted that
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Is it just really unlucky or real easy to blow out one’s quads sliding into a ring?
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Cubone posted:yes TheSwizzler posted:Legit lmao glad you posted that
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TV Zombie posted:Is it just really unlucky or real easy to blow out one’s quads sliding into a ring? Muscle separation and tearing is apparently much easier when you are a steroid golem
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titties posted:Muscle separation and tearing is apparently much easier when you are a steroid golem If you look at the recent pics of Vince..... woof. He is not looking good at all It seems the years of steroids, very little sleep and massive anger issues are finally starting to catch up to him
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Vince bumped his leg and his leg muscle fell off Triple H took a step and his quad started flapping around like a towel on a clothesline Kevin Nash considered a wrestling move and both of his stick-figure legs disintegrated
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TV Zombie posted:Is it just really unlucky or real easy to blow out one’s quads sliding into a ring? Ages ago some gearhead had written about his experience in like Maxim. Was at the gym and the muscle just slid off. Went into the ER and caught sepsis, almost died, etc.
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That's so weird because I thought the whole point of steroids was to heal more quickly after getting injured or breaking down muscle tissue from lifting weights.
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Elephant Ambush posted:That's so weird because I thought the whole point of steroids was to heal more quickly after getting injured or breaking down muscle tissue from lifting weights. In prescribed doses it probably does but when you've been cycling heavily for 40 years you get big muscles but the support structures are not able to keep up. At least i assume that's how it works
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Elephant Ambush posted:That's so weird because I thought the whole point of steroids was to heal more quickly after getting injured or breaking down muscle tissue from lifting weights. It probably depends on what steroids you're taking and whether you're following the proper dosages, both factors being things that your average roided out sports entertainer (and the roided out guy who runs the biggest sports entertainment company of them all) flagrantly disregarded for much of the last 30-40 years or so
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titties posted:In prescribed doses it probably does but when you've been cycling heavily for 40 years you get big muscles but the support structures are not able to keep up. So I did a little internet research and found this The Internet posted:Muscle and Tendons: Maybe that?
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Elephant Ambush posted:That's so weird because I thought the whole point of steroids was to heal more quickly after getting injured or breaking down muscle tissue from lifting weights. Healing quickly isn't necessarily healing well, especially when you're breaking muscles down to promote growth in size rather than strength (myofibrillar vs sarcoplasmic hypertrophy).
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Muscles are weird! Thanks for the explanation from knowledgeable people 
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titties posted:Kevin Nash considered a wrestling move and both of his stick-figure legs disintegrated Kevin Nash was repeatedly stiffed in his match against Minka and it caused terrible swelling to his lower extremities. It’s not fair to make fun of him for Russo forcing him into that position.
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I apologize to big sexy kevin nash
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titties posted:I apologize to big sexy kevin nash An magnificent name/comment combo
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A badly pulled cremaster is no laughing matter.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:
This one kinda owns.
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titties posted:Vince bumped his leg and his leg muscle fell off Sid Justice heard a loud noise and imploded into a singularity
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PeterCat posted:This one kinda owns. Right! Wrestling, even when it's being stupid and ridiculous can be great.
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Kevin Nash is hilarious. He always had the attitude that you should do as little work and take as few bumps as possible, but he still ended up with a million injuries. He took that advice from Hogan and Hogan ended his in-ring career around the same time as Nash despite starting a whole generation before him.
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