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MustardFacial
Jun 19, 2011

The first few turns are quite good but the rest of it is shit.

Charles Leclerc posted:

I did give you a fair and clear cancer warning. You can't smoke a pack of 20 motorsport.com comments and then moan that you can't shift that cough.
I'm not moaning. I love the insanity of motorsport.com comments. This thread could learn a thing or two.

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Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO



2022 FIA Formula 1 WDC

MustardFacial posted:

I'm not moaning. I love the insanity of motorsport.com comments. This thread could learn a thing or two.

So are you Spilt Oil or Mannes Karsten?

e: or worse yet, Jonathan Noble...

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

MustardFacial posted:

no he's right you should stop posting altogether.

That's right.
Hamilton is a pos who got away with it and shouldn't have.
Hamilton should have been banned for trying to get law enforcement assassinated with his ignorance . Using the f-one platform to make already lazy and dumb people dumber should have seen at least 2 races filled by Merc's reserve driver.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Actually, Lewis Owns

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I was, in a way, the one who had to leave.

That's sir lewis carl davidson larbalestier hamilton MBE

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
All of MS.com’s comments are either racist attacks on Hamilton or yelling at RedBull and Honda for cheating. They are all pretty rabid Alonso fans as well, so the previous 2 make sense.

Frond fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Jan 10, 2023

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
Guys I don’t know how legit this Andretti-GM deal is. From the article;




“If we get in, in 2025, there won’t be a new engine yet, so we would have to go with a formula that is used now, but in 2026 there are various things we can do with another engine manufacturer. It would not be a badged engine, because there would be intellectual property from Cadillac in that engine, so that is not a badged engine.”



What the gently caress does that even mean lol.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


They're going to be using the Renault engine that is so good that only Renault use it

ArmedZombie
Jun 5, 2004

the teams want $600 or $700 million from andretti/gm. lmfao.

track day bro!
Feb 17, 2005

#essereFerrari
Grimey Drawer
shamilton should drive for caddilac because he’s american

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Frond posted:

Guys I don’t know how legit this Andretti-GM deal is. From the article;




“If we get in, in 2025, there won’t be a new engine yet, so we would have to go with a formula that is used now, but in 2026 there are various things we can do with another engine manufacturer. It would not be a badged engine, because there would be intellectual property from Cadillac in that engine, so that is not a badged engine.”



What the gently caress does that even mean lol.

It sounds like they want an R&D partnership with another engine supplier if they go in from 2026, it's phrased terribly though

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos

Thanks Ants posted:

They're going to be using the Renault engine that is so good that only Renault use it

:wow:

ArmZ posted:

the teams want $600 or $700 million from andretti/gm. lmfao.

I bet that's the biggest problem for Andretti, regardless of all his talk to the contrary. Okay, second biggest, because the root problem is the contempt F1's European masters have for Andretti and GM.

No, it does not matter that an American private equity group owns the commercial rights.

Rhopunzel
Jan 6, 2006

Stroll together, win together
stroll driver of the day

Grimson
Dec 16, 2004



why stop there op

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


This GM Andretti thing owns because of how angry it’s making Americans

Kirios
Jan 25, 2010




Frond posted:

All of MS.com’s comments are either racist attacks on Hamilton or yelling at RedBull and Honda for cheating. They are all pretty rabid Alonso fans as well, so the previous 2 make sense.

...that sounds like this thread?

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

consuming content
We are not racist in this thread, unless you ignore these *pulls out list* members

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I was, in a way, the one who had to leave.

Feels Villeneuve posted:

We are not racist in this thread, unless you ignore these *pulls out list* members

Get the access database out

ArmedZombie
Jun 5, 2004

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

This GM Andretti thing owns because of how angry it’s making Americans

ArmedZombie
Jun 5, 2004

I love the indycar inferiority complex

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
Let us not forget that the sport already had these rules in place for some years until it was tested directly by Sir Lewis particularly and also by Sir Seb during the pandemic, with both of them wearing rainbows on their suits/helmets in countries with openly homophobic governments, and with Sir Lewis wearing Arrest The Cops Who Killed Breonna Taylor shirts on podiums for example. In those cases the FIA/F1 made slight PR moves to chastise Sir Lewis and Sir Seb on behalf of racists and homophobes worldwide, and were immediately met with strongly negative responses from the public or from others in media. The FIA/F1 caved in those cases -- in a way that I would be tempted to call cowardly but I'm not sure if that's the right word for it because they were terrorized into doing the right thing and only did the right thing out of fear and I'm just not sure what language is best to describe that moral position of theirs based on their intent and ultimate actions.

The situation is now different. Sir Seb has retired and Sir Lewis is not the reigning champion and it is unclear what his chances of winning races/championships will be in the future, having a not dominant Mercedes to drive. Part of what was going on when the FIA/F1 caved before was the politics of power. Sir Lewis was perceived to have power because he won lots of races. That is now not the case.

In the vacuum of morality that incubates the elite institutions of motorsport, might makes right. Power justifies itself. And now Sir Lewis (pbuh) the most moral of drivers finds himself in a weaker position. About 1,990 years ago another of God's most righteous children found Himself in a similar position relative to the mortal human powers around him. As did He, so will Sir Lewis triumph ultimately over the transient powers of evil (FIA/F1) who sit on their own earthly thrones today. We each must consider our own relationship to God's own Truth in this situation (read: you need to root for Sir Lewis at every race) and think of the moral state of our own eternal souls. Still He rises.

wzm
Dec 12, 2004

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

About 1,990 years ago another of God's most righteous children found Himself in a similar position relative to the mortal human powers around him. As did He, so will Sir Lewis triumph ultimately over the transient powers of evil (FIA/F1) who sit on their own earthly thrones today. We each must consider our own relationship to God's own Truth in this situation (read: you need to root for Sir Lewis at every race) and think of the moral state of our own eternal souls. Still He rises.

I think we can all agree on this.

wzm
Dec 12, 2004
Wait is Judas Alonso, Nico, or George.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Let us not forget that the sport already had these rules in place for some years until it was tested directly by Sir Lewis particularly and also by Sir Seb during the pandemic, with both of them wearing rainbows on their suits/helmets in countries with openly homophobic governments, and with Sir Lewis wearing Arrest The Cops Who Killed Breonna Taylor shirts on podiums for example. In those cases the FIA/F1 made slight PR moves to chastise Sir Lewis and Sir Seb on behalf of racists and homophobes worldwide, and were immediately met with strongly negative responses from the public or from others in media. The FIA/F1 caved in those cases -- in a way that I would be tempted to call cowardly but I'm not sure if that's the right word for it because they were terrorized into doing the right thing and only did the right thing out of fear and I'm just not sure what language is best to describe that moral position of theirs based on their intent and ultimate actions.

The situation is now different. Sir Seb has retired and Sir Lewis is not the reigning champion and it is unclear what his chances of winning races/championships will be in the future, having a not dominant Mercedes to drive. Part of what was going on when the FIA/F1 caved before was the politics of power. Sir Lewis was perceived to have power because he won lots of races. That is now not the case.

In the vacuum of morality that incubates the elite institutions of motorsport, might makes right. Power justifies itself. And now Sir Lewis (pbuh) the most moral of drivers finds himself in a weaker position. About 1,990 years ago another of God's most righteous children found Himself in a similar position relative to the mortal human powers around him. As did He, so will Sir Lewis triumph ultimately over the transient powers of evil (FIA/F1) who sit on their own earthly thrones today. We each must consider our own relationship to God's own Truth in this situation (read: you need to root for Sir Lewis at every race) and think of the moral state of our own eternal souls. Still He rises.

It's the only correct choice

MustardFacial
Jun 19, 2011

The first few turns are quite good but the rest of it is shit.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Let us not forget that the sport already had these rules in place for some years until it was tested directly by Sir Lewis particularly and also by Sir Seb during the pandemic, with both of them wearing rainbows on their suits/helmets in countries with openly homophobic governments, and with Sir Lewis wearing Arrest The Cops Who Killed Breonna Taylor shirts on podiums for example. In those cases the FIA/F1 made slight PR moves to chastise Sir Lewis and Sir Seb on behalf of racists and homophobes worldwide, and were immediately met with strongly negative responses from the public or from others in media. The FIA/F1 caved in those cases -- in a way that I would be tempted to call cowardly but I'm not sure if that's the right word for it because they were terrorized into doing the right thing and only did the right thing out of fear and I'm just not sure what language is best to describe that moral position of theirs based on their intent and ultimate actions.

The situation is now different. Sir Seb has retired and Sir Lewis is not the reigning champion and it is unclear what his chances of winning races/championships will be in the future, having a not dominant Mercedes to drive. Part of what was going on when the FIA/F1 caved before was the politics of power. Sir Lewis was perceived to have power because he won lots of races. That is now not the case.

In the vacuum of morality that incubates the elite institutions of motorsport, might makes right. Power justifies itself. And now Sir Lewis (pbuh) the most moral of drivers finds himself in a weaker position. About 1,990 years ago another of God's most righteous children found Himself in a similar position relative to the mortal human powers around him. As did He, so will Sir Lewis triumph ultimately over the transient powers of evil (FIA/F1) who sit on their own earthly thrones today. We each must consider our own relationship to God's own Truth in this situation (read: you need to root for Sir Lewis at every race) and think of the moral state of our own eternal souls. Still He rises.

This is the kind of fanatical nonsense I go to Motorsport.com for

acidx
Sep 24, 2019

right clicking is stealing

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

This GM Andretti thing owns because of how angry it’s making Americans

Also because of how angry it's making Europeans. When Herta wins the World Championship for the McDonald's Ford Bud Light F1 team at the las vegas grand prix, and he and his 400 pound team principal accept the trophy while they blare an electric guitar version of the star spangled banner, right down the road from the casino where that mass shooter killed dozens of people, the NHS is going to collapse from all of the british people having aneurysms.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

acidx posted:

Also because of how angry it's making Europeans. When Herta wins the World Championship for the McDonald's Ford Bud Light F1 team at the las vegas grand prix, and he and his 400 pound team principal accept the trophy while they blare an electric guitar version of the star spangled banner, right down the road from the casino where that mass shooter killed dozens of people, the NHS is going to collapse from all of the british people having aneurysms.
Is this a post from 2015 about Haas? Because lmao do I remember the insane american posters fever dreams from that era.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



europeans would desperately love for americans to show interest in their monarchist soccer and posh formula 1 otherwise feudal age sporrts but the truth in this country NFL football is king

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

ethanol posted:

europeans would desperately love for americans to show interest in their monarchist soccer and posh formula 1 otherwise feudal age sporrts but the truth in this country NFL football is king

:911:

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

Frond posted:

Guys I don’t know how legit this Andretti-GM deal is. From the article;




“If we get in, in 2025, there won’t be a new engine yet, so we would have to go with a formula that is used now, but in 2026 there are various things we can do with another engine manufacturer. It would not be a badged engine, because there would be intellectual property from Cadillac in that engine, so that is not a badged engine.”



What the gently caress does that even mean lol.

It means it's a badged engine.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Let us not forget that the sport already had these rules in place for some years until it was tested directly by Sir Lewis particularly and also by Sir Seb during the pandemic, with both of them wearing rainbows on their suits/helmets in countries with openly homophobic governments, and with Sir Lewis wearing Arrest The Cops Who Killed Breonna Taylor shirts on podiums for example. In those cases the FIA/F1 made slight PR moves to chastise Sir Lewis and Sir Seb on behalf of racists and homophobes worldwide, and were immediately met with strongly negative responses from the public or from others in media. The FIA/F1 caved in those cases -- in a way that I would be tempted to call cowardly but I'm not sure if that's the right word for it because they were terrorized into doing the right thing and only did the right thing out of fear and I'm just not sure what language is best to describe that moral position of theirs based on their intent and ultimate actions.

The situation is now different. Sir Seb has retired and Sir Lewis is not the reigning champion and it is unclear what his chances of winning races/championships will be in the future, having a not dominant Mercedes to drive. Part of what was going on when the FIA/F1 caved before was the politics of power. Sir Lewis was perceived to have power because he won lots of races. That is now not the case.

In the vacuum of morality that incubates the elite institutions of motorsport, might makes right. Power justifies itself. And now Sir Lewis (pbuh) the most moral of drivers finds himself in a weaker position. About 1,990 years ago another of God's most righteous children found Himself in a similar position relative to the mortal human powers around him. As did He, so will Sir Lewis triumph ultimately over the transient powers of evil (FIA/F1) who sit on their own earthly thrones today. We each must consider our own relationship to God's own Truth in this situation (read: you need to root for Sir Lewis at every race) and think of the moral state of our own eternal souls. Still He rises.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO



2022 FIA Formula 1 WDC

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

In the vacuum of morality that incubates the elite institutions of motorsport, might makes right. Power justifies itself. And now Sir Lewis (pbuh) the most moral of drivers finds himself in a weaker position. About 1,990 years ago another of God's most righteous children found Himself in a similar position relative to the mortal human powers around him. As did He, so will Sir Lewis triumph ultimately over the transient powers of evil (FIA/F1) who sit on their own earthly thrones today. We each must consider our own relationship to God's own Truth in this situation (read: you need to root for Sir Lewis at every race) and think of the moral state of our own eternal souls. Still He rises.

That’s an odd way of describing a perpetual liar, backstabber, hypocrite, child harasser and self glorifying narcissist.

But hey, lying is for most “christian” idiots as normal as it is for Sour Loser Killerton.

Still she gives twats like you the finger!

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-will-not-go-back-to-one-race-director-says-ben-sulayem/10419317/ lmfao

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos

ethanol posted:

europeans would desperately love for americans to show interest in their monarchist soccer and posh formula 1 otherwise feudal age sporrts but the truth in this country NFL football is king

F1 clearly needs to get better at causing CTE and other forms of brain damage if it is to win the hearts of Americans. Maybe the next set of regs could award bonus points for porpoising.

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

marshalljim posted:

F1 clearly needs to get better at causing CTE and other forms of brain damage if it is to win the hearts of Americans. Maybe the next set of regs could award bonus points for porpoising.

Athletes are desperate for it. If they can't get it safely in the sport they will look to winter sports. Would you rather have it happen out in the woods where nobody can help? How uncaring.

ArmedZombie
Jun 5, 2004

marshalljim posted:

F1 clearly needs to get better at causing CTE and other forms of brain damage if it is to win the hearts of Americans. Maybe the next set of regs could award bonus points for porpoising.

f1 still holds the death record

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
Active Suspension would help with porpoising, but I know driving aids (:haw:) are frowned on.



I propose a compromise;


You get to keep the sequential gearbox but must use standard springs/dampers, and no electronic aids.


Or you can use electronic aids but it requires the use of an H-Pattern box.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Bring back launch control, I want to see what happens when a team with a fairly slow car decide to spend all their money on electronics so they can jump eight places on the start and become a roadblock.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
It would be funny watching Alonso blow up the gearbox every third race.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Thanks Ants posted:

Bring back launch control, I want to see what happens when a team with a fairly slow car decide to spend all their money on electronics so they can jump eight places on the start and become a roadblock.

It was real cool when Renault had figured out the frequency for the timing lights and connected that into launch control.

Supposedly.

ArmZ posted:

f1 still holds the death record

For real. And (IMO) too much of the discussion around the NFL player who had cardiac arrest on the field feels like what has happened in racing before - trying to understand the balance of ‘what can be changed for safety’ versus ‘freak issues you can’t legislate for.’

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MustardFacial
Jun 19, 2011

The first few turns are quite good but the rest of it is shit.

Thanks Ants posted:

Bring back launch control, I want to see what happens when a team with a fairly slow car decide to spend all their money on electronics so they can jump eight places on the start and become a roadblock.

Bring back active aero to capitalize on this most effectively.

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