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Sywert of Thieves
Nov 7, 2005

The pirate code is really more of a guideline, than actual rules.

I started a new job 2 weeks ago so now that I'm settled in I get to annoy the IT staff with dumb questions like "do you have a left-handed mouse" (they were out) and "can i remove the capslock key from my keyboard or get permission to import this registry haCK PLEASE" because I keep hitting it by accident and typing my password wrong.

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mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Sywert of Thieves posted:

"can i remove the capslock key from my keyboard or get permission to import this registry haCK PLEASE" because I keep hitting it by accident and typing my password wrong.

This would be a LOL no and get printed out and framed on our wall of ridiculous things users asked us to do fyi

Weedle
May 31, 2006

this house is full of madness



Advised user to not press Caps Lock key when entering password. Closed

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I used to work with a lady that never used the shift key. She would toggle caps-lock every time she needed a capital letter. Other than that we typing style was totally normal.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


People can type however they want as long as I never have to stand over them and observe it

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


reminds me of working with a lady who would have capslock on because she was workin in a utility where someone had refused to use lowercase so everything was uppercase


you could always tell because you'd then get an email from her

AND IT WAS ALL IN ALL CAPS AND ITFELT LIKE SHE WAS SHOUTING AT YOU




which was actually pretty close to her voice so lol

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Thanks Ants posted:

People can type however they want as long as I never have to stand over them and observe it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2pVVqRpGhI&t=37s

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I remember that scene using the word gently caress but can't find a version of that, mandela effect?

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




The Fool posted:

I used to work with a lady that never used the shift key. She would toggle caps-lock every time she needed a capital letter. Other than that we typing style was totally normal.

How did she do special characters?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


100% mandela effect, I have the 88 Films version remastered Blu-ray (looks and sounds great btw) and Kate says "screw" on that

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




The lip sync is weird for that word it was probably edited pre-original release.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


It got a fairy low age certificate so possibly that was changed before the theatrical release

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

The Fool posted:

I used to work with a lady that never used the shift key. She would toggle caps-lock every time she needed a capital letter. Other than that we typing style was totally normal.

My wife does this. She is aware of the Shift key and uses it for special characters, but not for capitalization, despite otherwise typing properly (not hunting and pecking). I have never understood why but it works for her.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Sywert of Thieves posted:

I started a new job 2 weeks ago so now that I'm settled in I get to annoy the IT staff with dumb questions like "do you have a left-handed mouse" (they were out) and "can i remove the capslock key from my keyboard or get permission to import this registry haCK PLEASE" because I keep hitting it by accident and typing my password wrong.

I've read this 100x and I just can't. You want to alter the hardware or operating software of a computer that doesn't belong to you because you can't learn to type properly?

If I was still in helpdesk I wouldn't have even dignified that with a ticket. That's a "lol, no <end call>" situation.

IT is here to fix issues with the system and keep the org running, not help users with skill issues.

The poo poo mouse that comes with the bulk order should be symmetrical, and easy to use on the other side.

Silly Newbie
Jul 25, 2007
How do I?

AlexDeGruven posted:

I've read this 100x and I just can't. You want to alter the hardware or operating software of a computer that doesn't belong to you because you can't learn to type properly?

If I was still in helpdesk I wouldn't have even dignified that with a ticket. That's a "lol, no <end call>" situation.

IT is here to fix issues with the system and keep the org running, not help users with skill issues.

The poo poo mouse that comes with the bulk order should be symmetrical, and easy to use on the other side.

Hard disagree. My team's job is to provide people with the tools and sometimes knowledge necessary for them to do the specialized things that make us money. Need a giant monitor because you can't see so good? Sure, go make us money. Need a mouse that can be operated with your foot because you've only got the one hand? Go nuts, make us money. Need help figuring out how to use excel for the one report you ever produce while the rest of your job doesn't touch a computer? Come on down and we'll show you, so you can make the money that gets us paid.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Really, you're gonna teach loving Excel to users? That's what you consider an IT job? Not a loving chance. We can give you the car but we're sure as poo poo not teaching you to drive it.

And how many of your users actually make money for the org? Do you work for a company that is 100% sales people?

Silly Newbie
Jul 25, 2007
How do I?

GreenNight posted:

Really, you're gonna teach loving Excel to users? That's what you consider an IT job? Not a loving chance. We can give you the car but we're sure as poo poo not teaching you to drive it.

And how many of your users actually make money for the org? Do you work for a company that is 100% sales people?

Sales people don't make money, they make opportunities for actual workers to make money. The guy running the directional drill and putting conduit and blowing fiber into the hole, he makes us money by the foot. Anything I can do to help him spend less working hours fighting with his seldom used (but necessary) technology and more working hours generating billable work is a net gain.

Raerlynn
Oct 28, 2007

Sorry I'm late, I'm afraid I got lost on the path of life.

GreenNight posted:

Really, you're gonna teach loving Excel to users? That's what you consider an IT job? Not a loving chance. We can give you the car but we're sure as poo poo not teaching you to drive it.

And how many of your users actually make money for the org? Do you work for a company that is 100% sales people?

That's a hell of a straw man there. Teaching someone a few pointers in Excel to get a report right isn't excessive, and at the end of the day the job of IT is to leverage technology to increase efficiency.

To use your car analogy, they're not suggesting teaching them to drive. They are instead, teaching users how to get a little more value out of the car.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Education is a part of IT, like it or not. However there is a reasonable expectation that users have a baseline of knowledge when working with tools are core to their job responsibilities.

Normalize referring users to training courses.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


If you’re big enough then a training department running that stuff internally is easily justified

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

My whole argument is that IT can't know everything about everything. If you want to run that rabbit hole, next you're teaching a CAD engineer Solidworks. No. Pay for LinkedIn Learning and they can have at it. If the org wants to hire an Excel expert, fine. That's not help desk.

Silly Newbie
Jul 25, 2007
How do I?

GreenNight posted:

My whole argument is that IT can't know everything about everything. If you want to run that rabbit hole, next you're teaching a CAD engineer Solidworks. No. Pay for LinkedIn Learning and they can have at it. If the org wants to hire an Excel expert, fine. That's not help desk.

We're not discussing expertise, though, we're discussing functional skill levels. We have CAD engineers, and if they come without knowledge of AutoCAD, that's on their hiring manager to figure out. Other side of the coin, if a data center electrician needs an intro to sending pictures from his phone for closeouts, we're happy to help. Once, at least.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Basic computer skills are a must. Take a free community college course if you have to.

But lol @ the idea of registry hacks or physical modifications because you can't type your fuckin password.

JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice

Sywert of Thieves posted:

I started a new job 2 weeks ago so now that I'm settled in I get to annoy the IT staff with dumb questions like "do you have a left-handed mouse" (they were out) and "can i remove the capslock key from my keyboard or get permission to import this registry haCK PLEASE" because I keep hitting it by accident and typing my password wrong.

what sort of left-handed mouse do you use they're a pain in the rear end to find

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


I came back from PTO today to find a bunch of meeting requests from people who apparently aren't happy with our ticket response times. Dumbasses, the solution to our ticket woes is not to spend more time in meetings discussing the problem. Shut up and leave us alone so we can work.

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!
I typed while quickly toggling caps lock on and off again well into my thirties before I started using shift, if I can learn to type properly so can you.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Zorak of Michigan posted:

I came back from PTO today to find a bunch of meeting requests from people who apparently aren't happy with our ticket response times. Dumbasses, the solution to our ticket woes is not to spend more time in meetings discussing the problem. Shut up and leave us alone so we can work.

I had someone like that, with the "do more with the resources you have" mindset. I asked how they would like us to prioritise requests - do we always want to treat certain customers as a higher priority than others regardless of the priority, so a P3 from a high value client is dealt with before a P1 from someone who spends less? They couldn't answer, just gave out vague comments about ensuring that people didn't complain. If you're not prepared to tell us what the priorities should be then we can't help you.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




We in infrastructure/security have an enormous queue that only gets longer so our director is meeting with my boss to ask why this is and he's just going to show her his free/busy time which is just wall to wall meetings all day with zero time to actually do any work. We even block off monday and friday from meetings to reserve them for important stuff and get even a little work done but every week just ends up looking like this for our cloud architect because we have to play the adults in the room with all the wacky poo poo people keep trying to do.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Thanks Ants posted:

I had someone like that, with the "do more with the resources you have" mindset. I asked how they would like us to prioritise requests - do we always want to treat certain customers as a higher priority than others regardless of the priority, so a P3 from a high value client is dealt with before a P1 from someone who spends less? They couldn't answer, just gave out vague comments about ensuring that people didn't complain. If you're not prepared to tell us what the priorities should be then we can't help you.

Yeah same situation I was in a couple companies ago, where they said straight faced that these 6 things were all highest priority (we had bandwidth for 2 or 3 of them). Our response was that without further refinement we would be selecting the projects we worked on first and we would not be starting the others until the ones we picked were done. Or, and we were always perfectly happy with this option, they came back partway in and told us a different project was now higher priority than an in-progress one.

We would often get priority switches, followed later by "how is [the deprioritized] project coming along?" along with much wailing that no progress had been made on it. We kept the receipts, the emails and slack conversations telling us to switch priorities, and regularly referenced the original statement that we could only work on a certain amount at a time. Trying to manage expectations and largely being ignored or being outright accused of sandbagging was frustrating, but we didn't really budge and they couldn't do poo poo about it because they couldn't attract anyone to hire to improve throughput.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





How did you get a screenshot of my calendar???

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


My calendar sometimes looks like that but all the appointments are fake and I put them there :ssh:

johnny park
Sep 15, 2009

Thanks Ants posted:

I had someone like that, with the "do more with the resources you have" mindset. I asked how they would like us to prioritise requests - do we always want to treat certain customers as a higher priority than others regardless of the priority, so a P3 from a high value client is dealt with before a P1 from someone who spends less? They couldn't answer, just gave out vague comments about ensuring that people didn't complain. If you're not prepared to tell us what the priorities should be then we can't help you.

Look, they're having bad feelings about these things, and they need you to make the bad feelings go away. Just make the good things happen so the bad feelings go away. Management!

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Boogalo posted:

We in infrastructure/security have an enormous queue that only gets longer so our director is meeting with my boss to ask why this is and he's just going to show her his free/busy time which is just wall to wall meetings all day with zero time to actually do any work. We even block off monday and friday from meetings to reserve them for important stuff and get even a little work done but every week just ends up looking like this for our cloud architect because we have to play the adults in the room with all the wacky poo poo people keep trying to do.



mods, nsfw???

johnny park
Sep 15, 2009

If someone tried to put meetings on my calendar when I had work to do I would simply decline them. Maybe I'm just built different

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

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BaseballPCHiker fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Apr 1, 2025

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


johnny park posted:

If someone tried to put meetings on my calendar when I had work to do I would simply decline them. Maybe I'm just built different

This is really culture-dependent. In some offices, declining a meeting request at a time when you're marked free reads as very rude. With that in mind, yes, I am in fact trying to push my team members to reject more meetings.

Re: prioritization, bosses who refuse to prioritize don't bother me a lot, and bosses who shift priorities around only bother me a little, but bosses who yank priorities around without notice enrage me. I've had a couple who liked to play that game. Monday we spend an hour talking in depth about how critical a project is and doing a deep dive on all the things we need to do in order to deliver. Wednesday, boss asks about something totally different that nobody has brought up in weeks, and when I say "Nobody has talked about that in weeks, I have been all-in on the big project we discussed Monday," I get, "Who cares about that project? I need to see progress on this bullshit project I just asked you about." In some cases I think it's some sort of genuine cognitive issue, but in another case, I know for sure the guy was just a jackhole who got his kicks by making me look bad during his staff meetings. Hate. Luckily his karma caught up with him and he got fired for a totally different sort of dipshit behavior.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik

Thanks Ants posted:

My calendar sometimes looks like that but all the appointments are fake and I put them there :ssh:

Quote a number of “focus time” entries on mine as well

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


devmd01 posted:

Quote a number of “focus time” entries on mine as well

Hell yeah, getting Focus Time added automatically is one of the best Outlook features in a long time...

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

Zorak of Michigan posted:

I came back from PTO today to find a bunch of meeting requests from people who apparently aren't happy with our ticket response times. Dumbasses, the solution to our ticket woes is not to spend more time in meetings discussing the problem. Shut up and leave us alone so we can work.

The solution is to hire more people for your team, which they aren't going to do, so gently caress 'em.

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Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
We have been out of support for an extremely critical tool for the past 3 years and the c levels finally agreed to allow us to re-up the contract. The contract requires that we update to the latest version of the software and they offer 3 levels of support for the upgrade.

The c levels opted option 0: gently caress you, we'll do it ourselves and if you don't like it then no deal.

Anyway the upgrade was performed last night, and to everyone's surprise everything went smooth- hahahaha just kidding it went exactly as you'd expect. Production is down and support is happily laughing at us from a distance saying I told you so.

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