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Personal Lucubrant
Oct 18, 2016

Just thinking about what to do with all the money I don't have.

Shugojin posted:

me: you do NOT need a new router

customer, a few days later: your tech VERY POMPOUSLY told me that i needed to buy a new router and so i bought a $1500 new router and it's sitll wrong!!!!

God this poo poo was annoying during my brief stint at an ISP. I think at least once a day I had to explain it to a customer by asking them, "If you replaced your garden hose with a fire hose, would it increase the amount of water coming out of the spigot?"

Some of them still didn't understand. :ignorance:

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wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Shugojin posted:

in my defense she WAS eating when she called in which is deeply unforgiveable

such pomposity!

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


I sent an email to some guy on May 10, 2021 telling them their new privileged account was set up, and to reach out to me via Slack when they had 5min free to complete the process.

It is October 21, 2024. They have finally reached out.

johnny park
Sep 15, 2009

They've been busy!

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Good on them, don't reach out until you need to.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


GreenNight posted:

Good on them, don't reach out until you need to.

The guy reached out to me with a vague and confusing question about his account then said he had to leave for a meeting and would be back in an hour. It was after he said that that I went digging and understood the entire context of what he was asking me. It is two hours later now and he hasn't come back.

I look forward to finally completing this process sometime in 2027.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

He's fortunate you still work there.

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!
Your time to close average is gonna be in the dumper if he ever gets back to you.

minusX
Jun 16, 2007

Say something hideous and horrible jumps out at you. Something so disgusting that it simply must die.
Ah! Oh!..So tacky! I can't...look...directly at it!

Sirotan posted:

I look forward to finally completing this process sometime in 2027.
"Sir, the company decided to move on from the Windows 2016 machine hosting your app due to EOL and just switch over to a Red Hat install for the app. The downside to that is the account you would use to access it is not handled by AD BUT since I have your attention we can just have you switched over to the new process ASAP! Please let me know when you're ready to get setup for the new privileged account." 5 years later.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋

klosterdev posted:

Your time to close average is gonna be in the dumper if he ever gets back to you.

Tickets Georg over here

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


He actually got back to me this morning and after a couple stumbles, managed to complete all required steps. He still has not accessed the system that required the account in the first place but that aint my problem!

johnny park
Sep 15, 2009

An executive sent in a ticket this evening, replying to a company-wide IT email sent October 7th about how the migration to our new cloud file solution was complete and to email us if they're having issues or if they didn't get the application installed on their computer. He let us know he didn't get the application installed on his computer.

Kinda giving away how little actual work you do when you can 'work' for three weeks without access to any files at all

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


At exec level they just sit in meetings anyway, and other people bring the files as printouts or slides off their laptop.

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

johnny park posted:

An executive sent in a ticket this evening, replying to a company-wide IT email sent October 7th about how the migration to our new cloud file solution was complete and to email us if they're having issues or if they didn't get the application installed on their computer. He let us know he didn't get the application installed on his computer.

Kinda giving away how little actual work you do when you can 'work' for three weeks without access to any files at all

I have had people file tickets about their laptop not working in a way that is caused by something we changed (in an organized way, with notifications) multiple years earlier. It is incredible.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Subject: Hey

Body: I can't log in wheres my student loan money?

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

God drat it, I ShadowIT'd myself!

User came by office with an older Mac on 12% battery with no charger. She was trying to edit a Word doc for an assignment. User had a class A5 license which should be totally doable but opening it said she needed to Activate office or else she couldnt edit or save.

She tries to Activate, it says another account from this organization is already signed in.

Battery is ~5% and I put Libre Office on the device, confirm it can open + save, and show her how to do it. She does, saves, then battery dies a minute later.

Definitely not the smart move on my part, but was a bandaid fix to get around an error that would require a good bit of investigation on my part that I couldnt do with the device about to die. Probably should have asked her to come back with a charger, but our Mac tech is out for the third day in a row so was kind of on the spot :( Had no idea how to do a Credential Manager equiv on Mac either, and Revoking Sessions on Entra didnt seem to do the job as we still got that error.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Dandywalken posted:

God drat it, I ShadowIT'd myself!

User came by office with an older Mac on 12% battery with no charger. She was trying to edit a Word doc for an assignment. User had a class A5 license which should be totally doable but opening it said she needed to Activate office or else she couldnt edit or save.

She tries to Activate, it says another account from this organization is already signed in.

Battery is ~5% and I put Libre Office on the device, confirm it can open + save, and show her how to do it. She does, saves, then battery dies a minute later.

Definitely not the smart move on my part, but was a bandaid fix to get around an error that would require a good bit of investigation on my part that I couldnt do with the device about to die. Probably should have asked her to come back with a charger, but our Mac tech is out for the third day in a row so was kind of on the spot :( Had no idea how to do a Credential Manager equiv on Mac either, and Revoking Sessions on Entra didnt seem to do the job as we still got that error.

Office activation tokens are saved in the mac libraries, they added a terminal command to purge them since 2016

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/troubleshoot/activation/another-account-already-signed-in

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

SlowBloke posted:

Office activation tokens are saved in the mac libraries, they added a terminal command to purge them since 2016

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/troubleshoot/activation/another-account-already-signed-in

Awesome, thank you!

minusX
Jun 16, 2007

Say something hideous and horrible jumps out at you. Something so disgusting that it simply must die.
Ah! Oh!..So tacky! I can't...look...directly at it!

Dandywalken posted:

Awesome, thank you!
Put in a note for yourself or the mac tech to reach out to them soon to make sure they can use their full application as well.

Also wouldn't A5 accounts have access to the web version of the apps which would've been still in the ecosystem?

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

minusX posted:

Put in a note for yourself or the mac tech to reach out to them soon to make sure they can use their full application as well.

Also wouldn't A5 accounts have access to the web version of the apps which would've been still in the ecosystem?

Any Ax license does have access to web office but it requires all documents to be in onedrive so if the mac had all the data locally it wouldn't be of any use.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

I reached out to the user to see if they can swing by in the future for that fix. Hopefully it addresses the issue completely

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


If you support Macs and operate a drop-in helpdesk then you should have a Mac sitting around to get familiar with, and probably want to keep a couple of chargers in stock to be able to help in this sort of situation. A MagSafe charger and a USB-C PD charger with 65+ watts should be enough for the majority of laptops that people are going to walk in with. Probably looking at under 150 for both and you'll never be fighting against the battery depletion clock again.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Yeah that seems reasonable. Im going to check if we have any extra Mac stuff tomorrow. Appreciate the advice all - talked to her and shes coming by again tomorrow so I can fix things properly.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Now that the remediation suggestions are done, it's worth acknowledging that you pulled out a win in difficult circumstances there and ensured that work continued even if you had to improvise and colour outside the lines a bit.

minusX
Jun 16, 2007

Say something hideous and horrible jumps out at you. Something so disgusting that it simply must die.
Ah! Oh!..So tacky! I can't...look...directly at it!

Arquinsiel posted:

Now that the remediation suggestions are done, it's worth acknowledging that you pulled out a win in difficult circumstances there and ensured that work continued even if you had to improvise and colour outside the lines a bit.

Yeah you got a user up and running, just wanted to point out things to consider to prevent your own shadow IT happening :) Be proud that you got them working!

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


I swear to god, if I have to deal with one more boomer who insists on attaching a saved email to an email instead of just forwarding the goddamned email, I'm going to just clock the user with a stapler and hide them in the utility closet. It only causes issue for recipients. The "problem" isn't that they can't open the attachemnt, you idiot - the problem is that you *sent it* as an attachment in the first place. I hate that Microsoft even allows to to save .msg/.eml files.


Thanks Ants posted:

If you support Macs and operate a drop-in helpdesk then you should have a Mac sitting around to get familiar with, and probably want to keep a couple of chargers in stock to be able to help in this sort of situation. A MagSafe charger and a USB-C PD charger with 65+ watts should be enough for the majority of laptops that people are going to walk in with. Probably looking at under 150 for both and you'll never be fighting against the battery depletion clock again.

You don't even need the MagSafe - all Macs still have and can charge with USB-C. I regularly hand out Lenovo and Dell chargers to idiots that leave their chargers at home.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Darchangel posted:

You don't even need the MagSafe - all Macs still have and can charge with USB-C. I regularly hand out Lenovo and Dell chargers to idiots that leave their chargers at home.

I remember 16" with magsafe playing games with usb-c charging, like barely counteracting operation so the charge rate was about null. Is that changed?

Filthy Lucre
Feb 27, 2006

Darchangel posted:

I swear to god, if I have to deal with one more boomer who insists on attaching a saved email to an email instead of just forwarding the goddamned email, I'm going to just clock the user with a stapler and hide them in the utility closet. It only causes issue for recipients. The "problem" isn't that they can't open the attachemnt, you idiot - the problem is that you *sent it* as an attachment in the first place. I hate that Microsoft even allows to to save .msg/.eml files.

Forwarding messages as attachments is actually really convenient for troubleshooting email issues as it preserves the original email headers.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
It's God's true way to "per my last e-mail"

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


SlowBloke posted:

I remember 16" with magsafe playing games with usb-c charging, like barely counteracting operation so the charge rate was about null. Is that changed?

Depends on the Mac. The 16" models require a bit more power depending on the processor. For example the i9 models *require* a 96W brick, or they literally won't even start up if the battery is pooched. I think the i7 has an 85W. The non-i9 ones generally will run on a 65W without discharging, but may not really charge much.


Filthy Lucre posted:

Forwarding messages as attachments is actually really convenient for troubleshooting email issues as it preserves the original email headers.

Yeah, these are accountants/finance/Purchasing people. They're just doing it because it's how they've "always done it."

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Filthy Lucre posted:

Forwarding messages as attachments is actually really convenient for troubleshooting email issues as it preserves the original email headers.
It's also great for security work for the exact same reason. If that feature went away I'd be sad.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Oh jeez, that's embarrassing.

Well the important thing is I was right about Star Trek.
.Msg files as attachments is nothing compared to screenshots sent in Word docs.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋

How about screenshots of code snippets, sent by developers to other developers, marked up with arrows and circles, instead of just pasting the actual code so I can copy it

Or screenshots of URLs or UUIDs (with circles and arrows)

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Screenshots in Word documents that are too low a resolution to see any of the text

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Thanks Ants posted:

Screenshots in Word documents that are too low a resolution to see any of the text

Protip: all of the Office file extensions that end in x are actually zip files that you can open with something like 7-zip. You can then extract screenshots and whatever else.

johnny park
Sep 15, 2009

ConfusedUs posted:

Protip: all of the Office file extensions that end in x are actually zip files that you can open with something like 7-zip. You can then extract screenshots and whatever else.

Holy gently caress

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I just had a flashback to an email migration I had to do that involved Entourage. I feel like that program has been placed in the Memory Hole because I never hear anyone else talk about it.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

ConfusedUs posted:

Protip: all of the Office file extensions that end in x are actually zip files that you can open with something like 7-zip. You can then extract screenshots and whatever else.

wtf!!!

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


It's great because it confirms that the pixels are all there but Outlook won't let you zoom in on them for some reason

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Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

ConfusedUs posted:

Protip: all of the Office file extensions that end in x are actually zip files that you can open with something like 7-zip. You can then extract screenshots and whatever else.

Which is awesome when you're trying to classify a file (in a proxy, icap server or for whatever other purposes). When you see the zip magic header, buckle up cause there can be a looot of poo poo in there: java wars/jars/things, ms office docs, and other crap that I don't remember off the top of my head which you can only tell what they are if the zip contains some special files and in some cases you may even have to unpack and look in those files to determine their type.
Very much fun.

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